Astonishing developments in AI

Prestwich_Blue said:
People like those 659m rag fans you mean?
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Maybe we could use it to fill our empty seats?

More seriously though, I am wondering with the fast pace of AI development, just how long it will be before we are a rather inconsequential species on our planet. 100 - 200 years tops, I would say.
 
Very soon we won’t be able to control it.

It’s more of a risk than climate change.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Maybe we could use it to fill our empty seats?

More seriously though, I am wondering with the fast pace of AI development, just how long it will be before we are a rather inconsequential species on our planet. 100 - 200 years tops, I would say.
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Let's see if genetic engineering lets us keep pace :)
 
Chippy_boy said:
Maybe we could use it to fill our empty seats?

More seriously though, I am wondering with the fast pace of AI development, just how long it will be before we are a rather inconsequential species on our planet. 100 - 200 years tops, I would say.
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Automation is going to make so many jobs redundant will be no need for half the worlds population.
 
Scottyboi said:
Automation is going to make so many jobs redundant will be no need for half the worlds population.
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Chippy_boy said:
And later, none of the world's population.
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There will be as consumers Scotty. Jobs rely on having a market to cater for.
Chippy that's very apocalyptic from you :)
 
Different form of AI but I was amazed when I heard the AI booking a hair appointment. Never knew things were as advanced as they are
 
117 M34 said:
Different form of AI but I was amazed when I heard the AI booking a hair appointment. Never knew things were as advanced as they are
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Most people don't. The self learning part of it has come on in leaps and bounds over the last decade, all the growth is exponential so the speed at which this happens will shock people.
 
117 M34 said:
Different form of AI but I was amazed when I heard the AI booking a hair appointment. Never knew things were as advanced as they are
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Agreed. Neural networks combined with the exponential rise in computing power, is resulting in an astonishing rate of development. When you think about how difficult it is using normal programming methods to try to get a computer to recognise a simple object, and yet now we already have systems sophisticated enough to be able to recognise street scenes well enough to drive a car on their own. And the really scary thing is, we don't know how they do it! These things effectively have a mind of their own - they weren't programmed by us: they learned for themselves how to interpret the data.

When we combine all of this with the step change shift in computing power brought about by quantum computing (in perhaps a decade or so) then we'll start to see truly cognitive, thinking computers I believe. HAL 9000 is imo only a decade or two away.
 
aguero93:20 said:
There will be as consumers Scotty. Jobs rely on having a market to cater for.
Chippy that's very apocalyptic from you :)
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I've been thinking about this for 35 years mate, seriously.

The inexorable end-point is no need for any human labour (or contribution of any kind) whatsoever. It's not a question of if, merely of how long it will take before this is the case. Maybe 100 years. Maybe 200. Maybe 1,000. But sure as eggs is eggs, it's coming.

There's only two things that could prevent it. (1) We kill ourselves before this comes to pass (very very unlikely, since whatever we do would be unlikely to kill absolutely every human) or (2) we smash up all the machines in some Luddite revolt and go back to the plough and manual labour. Also pretty inconceivable.

But failing that, robots and computers will replace every form of human endeavour. Hopefully they will be our slaves and not our masters!
 
Chippy_boy said:
I've been thinking about this for 35 years mate, seriously.

The inexorable end-point is no need for any human labour (or contribution of any kind) whatsoever. It's not a question of if, merely of how long it will take before this is the case. Maybe 100 years. Maybe 200. Maybe 1,000. But sure as eggs is eggs, it's coming.

There's only two things that could prevent it. (1) We kill ourselves before this comes to pass (very very unlikely, since whatever we do would be unlikely to kill absolutely every human) or (2) we smash up all the machines in some Luddite revolt and go back to the plough and manual labour. Also pretty inconceivable.

But failing that, robots and computers will replace every form of human endeavour. Hopefully they will be our slaves and not our masters!
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The last bit is very important, we need to make sure we always build a kill switch, although if we develop (or the computers develop) a truly self aware machine there's an interesting moral quandary there as to whether we'd have the right to enslave it.
I'm an optimist in this regard, so I believe we'll always be needed as consumers.

One worrying aspect of this that seems to go under the radar a bit is that all the extra computer labour will drastically increase our power usage at a time when we're already outstripping our sources of fuel. Energy development needs to keep pace.
 
aguero93:20 said:
One worrying aspect of this that seems to go under the radar a bit is that all the extra computer labour will drastically increase our power usage at a time when we're already outstripping our sources of fuel. Energy development needs to keep pace.
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It's about being more efficient surely. If the AI does it in less time and less consumption it will be a good thing. Or even if AI schedules some power consumption at times when the national grid isn't heaving under pressure that's also good and probably more cost-effective.
 
The same stuff was said during the industrial revolution. That people would be redundant, I have the same feeling that a Luddite reaction is happening today.

People who are prone to believe world takeover and subjugation by elites and the illuminati type scenario, take any advancement and immediately run to apocolyotic conclusions.

They fucking can’t wait for shit to happen so they can say told you so. According to these types, it should have happened years ago. There are people out to end the very planet they Fucking live on.

Every conspiracy under the sun is trotted out. Every world event is used as proof of these unseen hands. Every disaster is a consequence of these dark forces. It’s the Rothschilds, it’s the Illuminati, it’s Dark Government, its Alien Shapeshifters, it’s the CIA and Israel.

It’s what it always has been. People in positions of power seeking to retain their power.

In terms of advancements, you only need to look at how many jobs are no longer done by people. This is not new. It didn’t end civilisation. That adapted to accommodate technology. I see all those gettibgvtheur inicjers in a twist as a continuation of what sonecsaud about the railways. The mechanized loom and a million other things.

People who want to promote doom and danger will always find a hobby horse to pin irrational views on.

Terminator was only a film. It wasn’t real. Neither are the Illuminati, Aliens interfering or an AI superpower whose aim is the destruction of humanity.

Will working patterns change? Of course they will. They always have. To believe that machines will develop human consciousness is Fucking ridiculous.

However, that won’t stop the apocalyptic lovers. They fucking love to come out with this shit.

Don’t look behind you. There may be a conspiracy theorist itching to bore the tits off you about the next great Armageddon.

AI will increase in capability, it will have economic and social consequences. Just like every scientific advancement since the wheel.

I bet you there was a lot of discontent among the people who used to carry all our stuff. Fucking raging rgeyvwere when wheels screwed their living. Or the breeders of horses and makers of wagons when trains and the combustion engine came along.

We adapt. That’s what human society does.

Ancient Aliens might have given us a clue though. Cunts.
Come down here, build the pyramids then fuck of without a warning? Bastards.

Oh and the moon is an alien ship. David Ike told us that. So, no question if it validity. Has that bellend jumped in the AI bandwagon yet? If not, hang around.
 
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