Astonishing developments in AI

[Magicpole]

Ok, so this does feel a bit weird writing this, but I'm a researcher in machine learning/AI at the university, I work in the medical department. If anyone has any questions about AI, I can give you one informed person's opinion. Main reason I'm writing this is because there's so much bullshit talked about AI in the media, and if anyone wants an opinion from someone who actually works in the area, I'd love to balance out some of the bullshit. (and if no one gives a shit, i'll hold my hands up and shuffle away embarrassed)

Let’s hear it mate. I would also like to know what the facts are, rather than, we will all be subjugated and slaves, redundant as workers, conspiracy fucking vomit, from the Five Magic Bean buyers.

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

Let’s hear it mate. I would also like to know what the facts are, rather than, we will all be subjugated and slaves, redundant as workers, conspiracy fucking vomit, from the Five Magic Bean buyers.

No one can tell you what will happen , some are betting placed to guess but if A.I becomes sentient(it may never) not one person can tell you. It may wipe us out because it wants to save bees or it may just invent new technologies and mankind has won the lottery or it may just do what it's told.

 

[Magicpole]

No one can tell you what will happen , some are betting placed to guess but if A.I becomes sentient(it may never) not one person can tell you. It may wipe us out because it wants to save bees or it may just invent new technologies and mankind has won the lottery or it may just do what it's told.

People just love a dark future. Doom and gloom, dark forces. Unseen hands, plotting and destruction. Have they any evidence for this? Do they fuck, it’s all being hidden by the illuminati and aliens.

Don’t get me wrong, 5 billion think there is an invisible man in the sky who has a talking snake.

I suppose thinking chemtrails, aliens, illuminati, AI waiting their chance to enslave us etc is no worse, but it’s no better.

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

People just love a dark future. Doom and gloom, dark forces. Unseen hands, plotting and destruction. Have they any evidence for this? Do they fuck, it’s all being hidden by the illuminati and aliens.

Don’t get me wrong, 5 billion think there is an invisible man in the sky who has a talking snake.

I suppose thinking chemtrails, aliens, illuminati, AI waiting their chance to enslave us etc is no worse, but it’s no better.

what are you waffling on about. I'm sure 50% of your post have "sky fairies" or "aliens" in them. No ones mentioned that stuff but you.

 

[Magicpole]

what are you waffling on about. I'm sure 50% of your post have "sky fairies" or "aliens" in them. No ones mentioned that stuff but you.

I like to mention the equivelance of every conspiracy out there. And as much evidence. Also, you waffleist, leave us wafflers alone.

 

[bluejon]

Let’s hear it mate. I would also like to know what the facts are, rather than, we will all be subjugated and slaves, redundant as workers, conspiracy fucking vomit, from the Five Magic Bean buyers.

We're nowhere near strong AI, i.e. actual intelligence, but machine learning is going to have a massive impact on employment in the next couple of decades, there's no question about that. I deliberately chose to work in medicine, as it's one of the few areas where machine learning will have a completely positive affect on society, but I get deeply worried about how it's applied in marketing etc. where it is becoming very easy to build very accurate profiles of people from their social media use. There's also the issue of smart cars, smart warehouses etc, which will be able to be fully automated in the not too distant future, without those jobs being replaced.

 

[Damocles]

This AI safety researcher has a Youtube channel which teaches people about why "dangerous AI" is an academic and not science fiction proposal.

Here's a general overview of a specific problem called the Stop Button problem in AI from the Computerphile series.



Here in his channel, he breaks down safety issues in AI much more comprehensively.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLB7AzTwc6VFZrBsO2ucBMg/videos

AI safety is an extremely concerning, very real problem. Creating an unsafe AI is quicker, cheaper and easier than creating a safe one. People tend to do that before the slower, harder and more expensive options. Unfortunately there's a good chance that we only get one shot at this. For a particular breakdown of why, his video on Instrumental Convergence is a great watch

 

[bluejon]

This AI safety researcher has a Youtube channel which teaches people about why "dangerous AI" is an academic and not science fiction proposal.

Here's a general overview of a specific problem called the Stop Button problem in AI from the Computerphile series.



Here in his channel, he breaks down safety issues in AI much more comprehensively.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLB7AzTwc6VFZrBsO2ucBMg/videos

AI safety is an extremely concerning, very real problem. Creating an unsafe AI is quicker, cheaper and easier than creating a safe one. People tend to do that before the slower, harder and more expensive options. Unfortunately there's a good chance that we only get one shot at this. For a particular breakdown of why, his video on Instrumental Convergence is a great watch

Ha. There is a stop button. It's called the plug socket switch.

 

[Armchair Supporter]

The problem with AI is that it wipes out the middle class.
No need for bankers, accountants, office workers, etc.

You get a rift in the workplace between manual worker and high level white collar work
And mechanisation has all but wiped out low lever manual work at that.

It is wholesale redundancy of large parts of the workforce. That said, i suppose we will find something else to do. What does the human race do when it no longer has to work to survive?

 

[everythingchangesbutblue]

The problem with AI is that it wipes out the middle class.
No need for bankers, accountants, office workers, etc.

You get a rift in the workplace between manual worker and high level white collar work
And mechanisation has all but wiped out low lever manual work at that.

It is wholesale redundancy of large parts of the workforce. That said, i suppose we will find something else to do. What does the human race do when it no longer has to work to survive?

Firstly we would need a universal basic income of some sort and research seems to show that people don't just become lazy druggies on ubi but life actually becomes less stressful. This could be a turning point for humanity if it was successful as it could wipe out poverty, improve work/life balance etc. people are probably less likely to commit crime/blame minorities if they are content with their own lives. Most people think ubi is a pipe dream but without it we could be looking at total world economical collapse in the next 20 years imo.

 

[KS55]

Automation is going to make so many jobs redundant will be no need for half the worlds population.

Not the first time thats been said. Popular in the 19th century. Wrong then, wrong now.

 

[Brightwell’s left peg]

The problem with AI is that it wipes out the middle class.
No need for bankers, accountants, office workers, etc.

You get a rift in the workplace between manual worker and high level white collar work
And mechanisation has all but wiped out low lever manual work at that.

It is wholesale redundancy of large parts of the workforce. That said, i suppose we will find something else to do. What does the human race do when it no longer has to work to survive?

Becomes a scouser?

 

[BlueHammer85]

Very soon we won’t be able to control it.

It’s more of a risk than climate change.

5 years later...

when exactly is AI going to end the world out of interest ?

 

[Chippy_boy]

5 years later...

when exactly is AI going to end the world out of interest ?

Tuesday

 

[dickie davies]

5 years later...

when exactly is AI going to end the world out of interest ?

When the Sheikh gets bored

 

[Stoned Rose]

The problem with AI is that it wipes out the middle class.
No need for bankers, accountants, office workers, etc.

You get a rift in the workplace between manual worker and high level white collar work
And mechanisation has all but wiped out low lever manual work at that.

It is wholesale redundancy of large parts of the workforce. That said, i suppose we will find something else to do. What does the human race do when it no longer has to work to survive?

Move to Merseyside?

 

[grunge]

 

[Mr Grumpy]

5 years later...

when exactly is AI going to end the world out of interest ?

I see significant changes now in my working life.
Everyone uses AI for reports.
Coding and spreadsheets no longer need program SMEs to complete. Just tell AI what you want.

It's hollowing out the white collar trades at an increasing rate.

Eg: Translation services are being decimated.

It will only get worse.

 

[BlueHammer85]

I see significant changes now in my working life.
Everyone uses AI for reports.
Coding and spreadsheets no longer need program SMEs to complete. Just tell AI what you want.

It's hollowing out the white collar trades at an increasing rate.

Eg: Translation services are being decimated.

It will only get worse.

yep, fair enough. AI has picked up the pace. yet to be bought into my company but guess a matter of time. we have to learn to adapt to tech advances, its been that way for last few decades.

 

[grunge]

I see significant changes now in my working life.
Everyone uses AI for reports.
Coding and spreadsheets no longer need program SMEs to complete. Just tell AI what you want.

It's hollowing out the white collar trades at an increasing rate.

Eg: Translation services are being decimated.

It will only get worse.

Currently coding ( as in programming ) its not great. It can help but its wrong more often than its right at this point.