Athletics Thread

chesterbells said:
I think the 800m runner was 100%, yes.

With Marita, possibly but, and this is only my personal opinion, I did think the Americans that the East German athletes they were up against weren’t squeaky clean either. Yes, it wasn’t state organised but it still was the same effects on athletes. You could actually argue those young East German women were victims in a way too.

The other aspect though, which was nothing to do with doping, is that sports success was so important for the East German state that they put it front and centre in other ways, in terms of investment in their system. They had fabulous coaching, and process that identified talent really young in schools, for all sports, based on born natural characteristics be it wing span/arm length for throwers (or swimmers) or lung capacity etc for other events, then supported and nurtured that talent intensively.

If I’m honest too, as a kid I also suspended my disbelief, just like I do now watching cycling (or football!) because if you didn’t, you wouldn’t really enjoy much sport at all I suppose.

(One or two sportsmen & women I do still find a bit too suspicious to ignore though!)
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They, the East German's absolutely were doped but also victim's as you said. I watched a documentary year's ago and a female East German swimmer who told the story of what they went through.

The swimmers were doped on steroids, and the training regime was to have them swim against a very strong tide, in a purpose built indoor facility. She explained that the tide was so strong, that you couldn't swim forward, just try and hold a position and not go backwards. It was for building strength and stamina, all while using drugs. I believe the long term health effects were also very negative for those involved.

It was state sponsored, and I'm dubious about any athlete's in any sport from behind the iron curtain at that time. Some of the records that still exist are ridiculous, especially so considering the improvements in nutrition, and sports science.
 
The Stockport Iniesta said:
They, the East German's absolutely were doped but also victim's as you said. I watched a documentary year's ago and a female East German swimmer who told the story of what they went through.

The swimmers were doped on steroids, and the training regime was to have them swim against a very strong tide, in a purpose built indoor facility. She explained that the tide was so strong, that you couldn't swim forward, just try and hold a position and not go backwards. It was for building strength and stamina, all while using drugs. I believe the long term health effects were also very negative for those involved.

It was state sponsored, and I'm dubious about any athlete's in any sport from behind the iron curtain at that time. Some of the records that still exist are ridiculous, especially so considering the improvements in nutrition, and sports science.
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Yep, I wouldn’t argue with much of that.
 
Mu, Morra and Hodgkinson are all running the 800m in the Eugene Diamond league meeting on Saturday, Reekie is also in it but will be hard pressed to break into the top 3. Ingebrigtsen Vs Kerr, with Jake Wightman also in the field is another highlight in the Mile.

BBC 3, 9PM.
 
The Stockport Iniesta said:
Mu, Morra and Hodgkinson are all running the 800m in the Eugene Diamond league meeting on Saturday, Reekie is also in it but will be hard pressed to break into the top 3. Ingebrigtsen Vs Kerr, with Jake Wightman also in the field is another highlight in the Mile.

BBC 3, 9PM.
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Woah!
Just bought tickets to the UK championships in June.
 
The Stockport Iniesta said:
They, the East German's absolutely were doped but also victim's as you said. I watched a documentary year's ago and a female East German swimmer who told the story of what they went through.

The swimmers were doped on steroids, and the training regime was to have them swim against a very strong tide, in a purpose built indoor facility. She explained that the tide was so strong, that you couldn't swim forward, just try and hold a position and not go backwards. It was for building strength and stamina, all while using drugs. I believe the long term health effects were also very negative for those involved.

It was state sponsored, and I'm dubious about any athlete's in any sport from behind the iron curtain at that time. Some of the records that still exist are ridiculous, especially so considering the improvements in nutrition, and sports science.
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I worry for some of our "cycling heroes".

As I can't see it elsewhere, RIP David Wilkie.
 
The Stockport Iniesta said:
Nice one mate, fingers crossed for some nice weather. Hodgkinson has confirmed she's running in the championship, can't wait to see how young Phoebe Gill gets on against her and Reekie.
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Yes, what a performance she gave in smashing the U18 European record with a time putting her in to world-class territory, at just 17. It would be wonderful if that is her true talent because the depth it would give us at that distance would be exceptional.

Do you know what has happened to Max Burgin? I thought he looked a wonderful prospect but he seems to have gone under the radar.
 
oldius said:
Yes, what a performance she gave in smashing the U18 European record with a time putting her in to world-class territory, at just 17. It would be wonderful if that is her true talent because the depth it would give us at that distance would be exceptional.

Do you know what has happened to Max Burgin? I thought he looked a wonderful prospect but he seems to have gone under the radar.
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I've no idea mate, I don't think he's ran yet this season so might be injured again.
 
MCFC1993 said:
Amazing performances from Hodgkinson and Kerr.
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Yes, a great meeting tonight, best of the DLs so far this season I’d say.
Neita and Asher-Smith got absolutely blown away in that 100m didn’t they?!
Great from Hodgkinson yep. I did wonder with it being in the USA whether Mu would compete too - with all 3 of them in the race it would have been even better, but I guess we’ll have to wait for Paris for that!
 
chesterbells said:
Yes, a great meeting tonight, best of the DLs so far this season I’d say.
Neita and Asher-Smith got absolutely blown away in that 100m didn’t they?!
Great from Hodgkinson yep. I did wonder with it being in the USA whether Mu would compete too - with all 3 of them in the race it would have been even better, but I guess we’ll have to wait for Paris for that!
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Mu pulled out a couple of days before, can't help it but get a whiff about her.
 
chesterbells said:
Yes, a great meeting tonight, best of the DLs so far this season I’d say.
Neita and Asher-Smith got absolutely blown away in that 100m didn’t they?!
Great from Hodgkinson yep. I did wonder with it being in the USA whether Mu would compete too - with all 3 of them in the race it would have been even better, but I guess we’ll have to wait for Paris for that!
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They did, by Richardson and what a sprinter she is. She also looked very different than last year. I noticed it right away, her boobs have increased by about two cup sizes and they hardly move when she’s running. Some job, she’s had done;-)
 
chesterbells said:
Hmm, that is interesting. Didn’t realise she was down to do it. I can see her coming into Paris as an unknown quantity.

I always think it’s odd when athletes compete so rarely. Sydney McLaughlin is another one you hardly see.
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She will have to run in the US trials, I think I'll try and watch that. SM ran a very fast 200m the other week beating a lot of the top sprinters. She's confirmed she's running the hurdles, her vs Bol, will be epic.
 
Clara Mageean actually broke the Irish record, finishing 2nd behind Gill.

I believe the British team for the European championships gets announced tomorrow.
 
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