Atmosphere 2024/25

[Tim of the Oak]

You have to admit that there’s a lot of season ticket holders in South Stand lower, who are there to be part of a singing section, but can’t actually be arsed to sing - atmosphere tourists.

The noise doesn’t travel well either from lower tier, so for me the more singers in upper tiers the better. Whatever happens, we need to have noise coming from both ends of the ground, something we don’t have now - that in itself would be a game changer.

It can’t be long until we hear more details about the plans for next season, as once announced, it will need time for fans to consider options, work through logistics like relocations etc.

I agree mate. On the rare occasions we get a chant started in the North Stand, it tends to go around the ground.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I agree mate. On the rare occasions we get a chant started in the North Stand, it tends to go around the ground.

I’ve talked a lot on here about crowd psychology and the way songs spread. They go like a Mexican wave. People join in when others around them do. A song started in either the south stand or 111 only goes one way. A song started at the back under the roof is both twice as loud and also travels three ways all at once: down, left and right.

The current situation is worst case scenario.the ground needs one main leading voice, not 3 or 4.

 

[EastMidlandsBlue]

I love my view and I'm on row 1 in 115, Leicester I was about 10 rows up. Absolutely brilliant away end. Need keep it going, hopefully plastic free again for Brentford and Ipswich

Brentford is one of the absolute worst away ends for tourists for some reason

 

[Gone for a Burton]

If my 'campaign' is gaining traction and broad support, please continue to sense check it and post accordingly.

In light of Brighton's decision to relocate away fans to create a second exclusive home end behind the goals, ( following Spuds, Arse, Vanilla & others), those in support of doing the same at City must be constructively vocal.

I will try to meet with the club again to push the proposal again.

If at first you dont suceed......

 

[mexico1970]

One of the main reasons there are episodes of quiet now is the lack of tribalism, it has been mainly engineered out.

That and every fucker is ordering chips booze or a burger instead in sitting the fuck down (Sitting down there's another problem) :-)

 

[EastMidlandsBlue]

As good as we were yesterday, for that reason it surprises me a little that a lot of Leicester fans think we’re the best away fans at their ground as surely other fanbases are equally loud when they go there? Or maybe not?

I think that's a really good point, I bet most teams have their best away end of the season at Leicester. Although I agree they won't see many better sets of support as they on Sunday.

On that point, I'd be really interested to see how our fans would manage in the Etihad away end, I bet we'd give it a much better go than most!

 

[EastMidlandsBlue]

It’s a close call and I don’t do every away these days but from my own experience I think Leicester away when Bernardo scored in a 1-0 win in September 2021 just about edged yesterday. It genuinely was non-stop all afternoon that day, whereas yesterday had a quiet spell in the second half.

I'd also throw in Luton away in the FA Cup last year. I remember walking away from the ground overhearing Luton fans almost shell-shocked as to how good our support was

 

[Dodge]

I'd also throw in Luton away in the FA Cup last year. I remember walking away from the ground overhearing Luton fans almost shell-shocked as to how good our support was

Bristol City would be up there too mate.

 

[M18CTID]

Were you on the second from back row?

Yeah mate - well for a while anyway!

 

[EastMidlandsBlue]

Bristol City would be up there too mate.

I wasn't there for that one, but I remember a lot of their fans being complimentary about our support online afterwards

 

[franksinatra]

Fulham last season was excellent.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

If my 'campaign' is gaining traction and broad support, please continue to sense check it and post accordingly.

In light of Brighton's decision to relocate away fans to create a second exclusive home end behind the goals, ( following Spuds, Arse, Vanilla & others), those in support of doing the same at City must be constructively vocal.

I will try to meet with the club again to push the proposal again.

If at first you dont suceed......

And most of the articles regarding the relocation is so that Brighton can gain small advantages over an away team. For example not having to take a penalty at the away end. City need to relocate the away fans as a matter of urgency although it’s something that has been discussed many times and apparently GMP won’t allow it.

 

[shnaghaicityfish]

If my 'campaign' is gaining traction and broad support, please continue to sense check it and post accordingly.

In light of Brighton's decision to relocate away fans to create a second exclusive home end behind the goals, ( following Spuds, Arse, Vanilla & others), those in support of doing the same at City must be constructively vocal.

I will try to meet with the club again to push the proposal again.

If at first you dont suceed......

It isn’t, most people think it’s a daft idea. Just because you’re (admirably) tenacious doesn’t mean it has support. Prepare to be disappointed. Points against:
Lots of loyal SC holders in 110/111 turfed out of their seats
Away fans all in one block, louder, more coordinated and more prominent on TV
Hospitality in SS2 and ES2 disrupted (the club will never do this)
Your plan blocks all exits for home fans at the South end of ESL1, we all have to exit at the other end of the stadium
Brighton have moved fans from one level to 2 tiers to “quiet them down”,
I honestly don’t think you’ve thought this through, your campaign is doomed to failure. Happy New Year!

 

[blubanjo]

I'd also throw in Luton away in the FA Cup last year. I remember walking away from the ground overhearing Luton fans almost shell-shocked as to how good our support was

That was a classic away day with small numbers....just goes to show.

 

[jrb]

It isn’t, most people think it’s a daft idea. Just because you’re (admirably) tenacious doesn’t mean it has support. Prepare to be disappointed. Points against:
Lots of loyal SC holders in 110/111 turfed out of their seats
Away fans all in one block, louder, more coordinated and more prominent on TV
Hospitality in SS2 and ES2 disrupted (the club will never do this)
Your plan blocks all exits for home fans at the South end of ESL1, we all have to exit at the other end of the stadium
Brighton have moved fans from one level to 2 tiers to “quiet them down”,
I honestly don’t think you’ve thought this through, your campaign is doomed to failure. Happy New Year!

For every negative you’ve wrote, there’s a positive.

But I’m not going through them all again.

Let’s see what City do when the new North stand is built and fans relocate from all parts of the stadium.

 

[shnaghaicityfish]

That was a classic away day with small numbers....just goes to show.

For every negative you’ve wrote, there’s a positive.

But I’m not going through them all again.

Let’s see what City do when the new North stand is built and fans relocate from all parts of the stadium.

Agreed, but I think we both know the club will pay absolutely no attention to any campaigns for or against. The total lack of support after Istanbul told us all we need to know about supporter engagement.
At the end of the day the atmosphere is down to us as fans shouting more, wherever we sit. I’ll be doing that on Saturday (from 102, apparently “shit seats”). CTID

 

[jrb]

Agreed, but I think we both know the club will pay absolutely no attention to any campaigns for or against. The total lack of support after Istanbul told us all we need to know about supporter engagement.
At the end of the day the atmosphere is down to us as fans shouting more, wherever we sit. I’ll be doing that on Saturday (from 102, apparently “shit seats”). CTID

All I’m going to say is let’s see. You’re probably right though. But the new North stand does give City the opportunity to look at, evaluate, and possibly relocate the away fans. (as well as home fans)

What I will say is, there is little or no away support or noise from the away fans at Spurs, Arsenal, and Liverpool, who are shoved in the corner, near the corner flag. Whilst at United, Newcastle, Everton, Villa, etc, you always hear the away fans because they are mostly in the upper tiers. That’s where the vast majority of the away noise and away support also comes from at the Etihad.

 

[Gone for a Burton]

It isn’t, most people think it’s a daft idea. Just because you’re (admirably) tenacious doesn’t mean it has support. Prepare to be disappointed. Points against:
Lots of loyal SC holders in 110/111 turfed out of their seats
Away fans all in one block, louder, more coordinated and more prominent on TV
Hospitality in SS2 and ES2 disrupted (the club will never do this)
Your plan blocks all exits for home fans at the South end of ESL1, we all have to exit at the other end of the stadium
Brighton have moved fans from one level to 2 tiers to “quiet them down”,
I honestly don’t think you’ve thought this through, your campaign is doomed to failure. Happy New Year!

I'll respond in the morning.

In the thros of NYE here.

 

[jrb]

Put it another way.

3000 safe standing seats at the back of the new NSL2
1000+ safe standing seats on SSL3, installed in the away end.
And whatever the safe standing seat capacity is on SSL1.

 

[shnaghaicityfish]

All I’m going to say is let’s see. You’re probably right though. But the new North stand does give City the opportunity to look at, evaluate, and possibly relocate the away fans. (as well as home fans)

What I will say is, there is little or no away support or noise from the away fans at Spurs, Arsenal, and Liverpool, who are shoved in the corner, near the corner flag. Whilst at United, Newcastle, Everton, Villa, etc, you always hear the away fans because they are mostly in the upper tiers. That’s where the vast majority of the away noise and away support also comes from at the Etihad.

For our games, Spurs, Arsenal and dippers atmosphere is completely destroyed by the number of tourists/corporate. Trafford is really only one tier with a few accessible rows in front. From 102 (where I sit/stand/shout) it’s difficult to tell where our SS noise comes from but it’s not obviously L3. Rarely hear away fans unless we’re getting battered.
Best recent aways have been palace Leicester and Luton (cup), no corporate or tourists. Personally I think it’s more about the people than the roof or seating arrangements.
Happy New year and keep the NS pic updates coming!