Atmosphere Thread | 2025/26

[M18CTID]

1. CITY need one end.
2. No other big club shares their home end with away fans.
3. No other club has more away fans in the so called home end for cup matches.
4. There will be approx. 7,000 new seats / standing seats in the extended North Stand. Fans can move to those without impacting on any existing fans.
5. The North Stand is a golden opportunity that should be welcomed - 3000 safe standing and a large central core of general admision seats. An entire CITY end.
6. The South Stand has now been proven to not work well as an atmosphere stand. It never will due to the configurations, split of home fans, too small lower level (now level 0) and domination of singing away fans particularly in cup matches and CL games.
7. Why 1894 can not understand this seems bizarre.
8.Somehow a relatively simple and clear matter has become over complicated and unecessarily divisive.

Sorry but on point 7 this has been done to death on here over the past 15 months and it’s getting tedious us having to repeat ourselves over and over again. If 1894 don’t understand then how come we took part in extensive discussions with the club regarding the new North Stand and how to maximise the atmosphere there?

Also, what makes people think that all or most of the singers in the South Stand are going to up sticks and move to the North Stand? Regardless of what issues there are in the South Stand, most fans are happy staying put regardless of 1894’s position. After all, many fans in the South Stand aren’t members of 1894. Unless the club make it attractive enough by pricing the tickets in the safe standing section of the new North Stand considerably cheaper than the South Stand, there will be no mass exodus.

It’s for these reasons that it’s better to focus more on those singers who aren’t in any of the traditional current singing areas, so anyone who isn’t currently in SS1, SS3, or Kippax Corner. There are plenty of singers dotted around in other areas of the ground who may well be interested in moving because they feel uneasy singing or starting off chants in quieter areas of the ground. By the way, the latest 1894 mailer contains a survey about possible relocations and one of the questions is below - it puts paid to the notion that 1894 aren’t doing anything to help fans move to the new North Stand and are only advocating for the South Stand:

“If 1894 can work with the club to move singers into different areas, would you like to relocate to help improve the atmosphere? (you can select multiple options)

Yes, I'd like to move to South Stand Lower (rail seating only)
Yes, I'd like to move to South Stand Level 3
Yes, I'd like to move to North Stand Level 2 (rail seating only)
No”

 

[uwerosler28]

Sorry but on point 7 this has been done to death on here over the past 15 months and it’s getting tedious us having to repeat ourselves over and over again. If 1894 don’t understand then how come we took part in extensive discussions with the club regarding the new North Stand and how to maximise the atmosphere there?

Also, what makes people think that all or most of the singers in the South Stand are going to up sticks and move to the North Stand? Regardless of what issues there are in the South Stand, most fans are happy staying put regardless of 1894’s position. After all, many fans in the South Stand aren’t members of 1894. Unless the club make it attractive enough by pricing the tickets in the safe standing section of the new North Stand considerably cheaper than the South Stand, there will be no mass exodus.

It’s for these reasons that it’s better to focus more on those singers who aren’t in any of the traditional current singing areas, so anyone who isn’t currently in SS1, SS3, or Kippax Corner. There are plenty of singers dotted around in other areas of the ground who may well be interested in moving because they feel uneasy singing or starting off chants in quieter areas of the ground. By the way, the latest 1894 mailer contains a survey about possible relocations and one of the questions is below - it puts paid to the notion that 1894 aren’t doing anything to help fans move to the new North Stand and are only advocating for the South Stand:

“If 1894 can work with the club to move singers into different areas, would you like to relocate to help improve the atmosphere? (you can select multiple options)

Yes, I'd like to move to South Stand Lower (rail seating only)
Yes, I'd like to move to South Stand Level 3
Yes, I'd like to move to North Stand Level 2 (rail seating only)
No”

If the question read " 1894 beleive the new north stand will be a unique opportunity to create one genuine atmospheric home end and are fully committed to working with the club to ensure this happens. To this end we would like all current 1894 south stand members alongside other south stand singers who are non members to join us in moving to this purpose built standing section to fully embrace creating a atmospheric home end. Would you like to be part of this movement?" Then it would be far more impact full. The actual question asked doesn't put to bed the fact that 1894 aren't doing anything to support a move to the north stand of anything it proves the opposite.

 

[mancityvstoke]

Sorry but on point 7 this has been done to death on here over the past 15 months and it’s getting tedious us having to repeat ourselves over and over again. If 1894 don’t understand then how come we took part in extensive discussions with the club regarding the new North Stand and how to maximise the atmosphere there?

Also, what makes people think that all or most of the singers in the South Stand are going to up sticks and move to the North Stand? Regardless of what issues there are in the South Stand, most fans are happy staying put regardless of 1894’s position. After all, many fans in the South Stand aren’t members of 1894. Unless the club make it attractive enough by pricing the tickets in the safe standing section of the new North Stand considerably cheaper than the South Stand, there will be no mass exodus.

It’s for these reasons that it’s better to focus more on those singers who aren’t in any of the traditional current singing areas, so anyone who isn’t currently in SS1, SS3, or Kippax Corner. There are plenty of singers dotted around in other areas of the ground who may well be interested in moving because they feel uneasy singing or starting off chants in quieter areas of the ground. By the way, the latest 1894 mailer contains a survey about possible relocations and one of the questions is below - it puts paid to the notion that 1894 aren’t doing anything to help fans move to the new North Stand and are only advocating for the South Stand:

“If 1894 can work with the club to move singers into different areas, would you like to relocate to help improve the atmosphere? (you can select multiple options)

Yes, I'd like to move to South Stand Lower (rail seating only)
Yes, I'd like to move to South Stand Level 3
Yes, I'd like to move to North Stand Level 2 (rail seating only)
No”

There will never be a mass exodus of people. Unless it was £300 a season ticket.

No one can criticise 1894 or supporters clubs after the effort they put in FOR FREE.

Who else does this sort of stuff with that level of commitment for years and years?

 

[M18CTID]

If the question read " 1894 beleive the new north stand will be a unique opportunity to create one genuine atmospheric home end and are fully committed to working with the club to ensure this happens. To this end we would like all current 1894 south stand members alongside other south stand singers who are non members to join us in moving to this purpose built standing section to fully embrace creating a atmospheric home end. Would you like to be part of this movement?" Then it would be far more impact full. The actual question asked doesn't put to bed the fact that 1894 aren't doing anything to support a move to the north stand of anything it proves the opposite.

Of course, because you think you know best.

By the way, there’s nothing stopping you moving over there. I’m sure you can make that informed decision even though you, and everyone else, don’t even know the prices yet.

And just to reiterate for the umpteenth time - 1894’s stance isn’t down to a few moaning twats spitting their dummies out. It’s based on the views of the vast majority of their members. You’re literally saying that 1894 should ignore those views because you have a different opinion.

 

[LEXSTARproject]

It's this part here that, by the looks of the thread that people don't get and what @Bert Swift and @Didsbury Dave are advising does not work

"To re-iterate we see the South Stand as being the heartbeat of the atmosphere and we do not wish to see the power of the South Stand diluted in any way"

"What we are suggesting is getting people who care about the atmosphere to relocate to the south stand to firm up what we have already"

The South Stand is already diluted and does not work because of the acoustics due to the away fans being there; you could move loads of new fans into the lower South Stand, but you're still going to have the three tiers of away fans next to you

What @Bert Swift is advising, why don't 1894 move to the new lower level of the new North Stand and create a home end behind the goal, have the expanded 2nd tier above.

Bert Swift is also asking why this is such a red line for the 1894

Our surveying last season came back with a wish to see a “proper” Blue Wall in the North Stand

The fans want a Blue Wall, and the majority of them want the 1894 to work with everybody to achieve this, but at the moment the club are going against what everyone asked for. We need everyone to be together and deliver a blue wall

Just to clarify this, I fully support everything the 1894 does for fans, but as Didsbury Dave said, this is our last chance to have a home end and bring a better atmosphere to the ground.

Every major sports team are doing a copy of the Yellow Wall, so why are Manchester City so different

 

[M18CTID]

There will never be a mass exodus of people. Unless it was £300 a season ticket.

No one can criticise 1894 or supporters clubs after the effort they put in FOR FREE.

Who else does this sort of stuff with that level of commitment for years and years?

I mean, everyone’s entitled to their own opinion and 1894 aren’t beyond criticism, but the criticism often comes from those who can’t be bothered to put the time and effort in themselves to make a difference.

 

[LEXSTARproject]

Of course, because you think you know best.

By the way, there’s nothing stopping you moving over there. I’m sure you can make that informed decision even though you, and everyone else, don’t even know the prices yet.

And just to reiterate for the umpteenth time - 1894’s stance isn’t down to a few moaning twats spitting their dummies out. It’s based on the views of the vast majority of their members. You’re literally saying that 1894 should ignore those views because you have a different opinion.

Do another survey asking the relevant questions

1. Do you want a Blue Wall? Yes/No
2. Would you move to the North Stand to help form a Blue Wall? Yes/No
3. Would prefer to stay in the South Stand Yes/No
4. How would you help improve the atmosphere within the ground(comment box)

I filled in the survey last year. It was a good survey, but this is our last chance to create a home end and help get a better atmosphere

 

[mancityvstoke]

Do another survey asking the relevant questions

1. Do you want a Blue Wall? Yes/No
2. Would you move to the North Stand to help form a Blue Wall? Yes/No
3. Would prefer to stay in the South Stand Yes/No
4. How would you help improve the atmosphere within the ground(comment box)

I filled in the survey last year. It was a good survey, but this is our last chance to create a home end and help get a better atmosphere

You do it............

 

[M18CTID]

Do another survey asking the relevant questions

1. Do you want a Blue Wall? Yes/No
2. Would you move to the North Stand to help form a Blue Wall? Yes/No
3. Would prefer to stay in the South Stand Yes/No
4. How would you help improve the atmosphere within the ground(comment box)

I filled in the survey last year. It was a good survey, but this is our last chance to create a home end and help get a better atmosphere

There’s a new survey that went out with the mailer the other day. While it doesn’t specifically have all those questions, there’s a section where you can pass comments on to 1894 and another where you can pass comments on and ask 1894 to pass them on to the club. Here’s the link:

Microsoft Forms

forms.office.com

 

[uwerosler28]

I mean, everyone’s entitled to their own opinion and 1894 aren’t beyond criticism, but the criticism often comes from those who can’t be bothered to put the time and effort in themselves to make a difference.

How do you know what effort people put in?, maybe the only option some have is to try and appeal to the main fan group who In their opinion are currently making a huge mistake and try and get them to reverse that decision??

 

[LEXSTARproject]

What a stupid fucking response he isn't running a fans group or representing what is supposed to be our most vocal fans area in the stadium, nor have the club offered him the chance to be anchor tenants in the new single tier standing section stadium expansion

Thanks @uwe rosler 28 for that. I would have done it if I had access. I think this is such an important matter that needs to be discussed with all fans. 1894, and the club need to link up to discuss a questionnaire for all fans. The club can make it official by asking for your supporter number, just like the 1984 have did with their survey

You are right with your posts. What is happening just now is a huge mistake by everyone involved, and we need what the club promised and is failing to deliver a BLUE WALL in the North Stand

 

[M18CTID]

How do you know what effort people put in?, maybe the only option some have is to try and appeal to the main fan group who In their opinion are currently making a huge mistake and try and get them to reverse that decision??

Reverse what decision? The main fan group is collaborating with the OSC and helping singers move into singing sections including the safe standing section of the new North Stand. People will be giving up some of their spare time to help facilitate this. Why would you have an issue with that? I mean, with close on 25,000 members to call on across both groups, that’s probably a large enough pool to fill the safe standing spaces in the new NS with singers and any gaps in SS1 and SS3 vacated by anyone relocating out of those sections.

You’ve got 2 choices mate - either keep being negative or get on board with 1894 and the OSC. And you can do your bit by filling out the survey I linked to further up the page. It shouldn’t take you more than 5 minutes.

 

[Big Joe Corrigan]

There will never be a mass exodus of people. Unless it was £300 a season ticket.

No one can criticise 1894 or supporters clubs after the effort they put in FOR FREE.

Who else does this sort of stuff with that level of commitment for years and years?

1894 are damned if they do, and damned if they don’t, they put a lot of effort in for what seems little reward or thanks most of the time. Keep up the good work lads.

 

[LEXSTARproject]

Reverse what decision? The main fan group is collaborating with the OSC and helping singers move into singing sections including the safe standing section of the new North Stand. People will be giving up some of their spare time to help facilitate this. Why would you have an issue with that? I mean, with close on 25,000 members to call on across both groups, that’s probably a large enough pool to fill the safe standing spaces in the new NS with singers and any gaps in SS1 and SS3 vacated by anyone relocating out of those sections.

You’ve got 2 choices mate - either keep being negative or get on board with 1894 and the OSC. And you can do your bit by filling out the survey I linked to further up the page. It shouldn’t take you more than 5 minutes.

@M18CTID I don't think he is against all the work the 1894 does, like a majority of fans, they want an atmospheric home end and a blue wall, like what was advised by the chairman of the club and like what all the pictures show below.



As many people have posted on here, the South Stand section does not work because of the away fans being there and our vocal fans being on either side of the away fans.

You need a section by yourself with no away fans near you.

I support all the matters the 1894 does, but on this matter, I want a blue wall

 

[M18CTID]

1894 are damned if they do, and damned if they don’t, they put a lot of effort in for what seems little reward or thanks most of the time. Keep up the good work lads.

Thanks. I honestly don’t know what more we can do than what we’re planning to do with the OSC - fill the singing sections with as many singers as we can, including NS2. It doesn’t matter if they’re 1894 members or not - the main thing is that those filling the spaces are singers and the new survey makes that point clear. The trouble is, there still needs to be an incentive for fans to move to NS2 and if the pricing in the safe standing part of NS2 isn’t considerably cheaper than elsewhere in the ground, it’ll be a hard sell. Also, 1894 have been banging the drum (metaphorically) for ages in advocating for a section in NS2 to be given to younger fans.

 

[jrb]

@M18CTID I don't think he is against all the work the 1894 does, like a majority of fans, they want an atmospheric home end and a blue wall, like what was advised by the chairman of the club and like what all the pictures show below.

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As many people have posted on here, the South Stand section does not work because of the away fans being there and our vocal fans being on either side of the away fans.

You need a section by yourself with no away fans near you.

I support all the matters the 1894 does, but on this matter, I want a blue wall

That depends if you honestly think and believe the NSL2 standing and seated configuration will create a blue wall?

 

[M18CTID]

@M18CTID I don't think he is against all the work the 1894 does, like a majority of fans, they want an atmospheric home end and a blue wall, like what was advised by the chairman of the club and like what all the pictures show below.

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As many people have posted on here, the South Stand section does not work because of the away fans being there and our vocal fans being on either side of the away fans.

You need a section by yourself with no away fans near you.

I support all the matters the 1894 does, but on this matter, I want a blue wall

We won’t get a pure blue wall in that stand mate because the club are making it a mish-mash of everything despite saying they want an atmosphere stand. And with many seats being turned over to match day tickets rather than season tickets, there’s less chance of singers filling those seats.

So what are we left with? An opportunity to help fill the 3000 safe standing spaces with singers. That’s what this 1894/OSC collaboration aims to do. But we can only have limited control on that. For starters, I can’t see the club making all 3000 spaces available to singers who wish to relocate. Then there’s the pricing and we’ve still no idea on that. So while 1894 and the OSC will do as much as they possibly can, we can only do so much and everything over and above that will be governed by the club.

 

[LEXSTARproject]

That depends if you honestly think and believe the NSL2 standing and seated configuration will create a blue wall?

John, it needs to be the whole stand, including NL1. We all need to fight together for what we were promised by the club. John, for a long while, you wanted an ultra section, so did I, I still support that is what is needed

This photo from the Gingerwig came from when I started supporting the club

 

[jrb]

Let’s see if the club starts pushing a Blue Wall, atmospheric, home end in 2026 via the OS, email, social media, and any other way they can.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

Is there any news on when this stand will actually open?