Atmosphere Thread | 2025/26

[jrb]

John, it needs to be the whole stand, including NL1. We all need to fight together for what we were promised by the club. John, for a long while, you wanted an ultra section, so did I, I still support that is what is needed

This photo from the Gingerwig came from when I started supporting the club

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I want a genuine singing section full of singers, not a singing section with singers, people who sing every now and again, and people who don’t sing at all.

Regarding the Ultras and their way of supporting, I don’t have a problem with it, I quite enjoy it. I don’t want to discuss that subject again as it has been done to death on the thread. Ultras and the way they support their teams will always split opinion amongst City fans and English football fans.

The whole of the new NS will be full of City fans. That is as far as it goes. Do I think it will be a Blue Wall, no I don’t. Do I think NSL2 and the NS will be a constantly singing tier and stand for the duration of the match, no I don’t. Do I think NSL2 will replicate what we already have on SSL1 and other singing sections and blocks around the ground, yes I do.

That’s not me being negative. That’s me being honest.

As for the picture. Fantastic. I was at the match. Football is different now.

 

[jrb]

Is there any news on when this stand will actually open?

No.

We’re still guessing.

Just like we’re still guessing with 115.

 

[LEXSTARproject]

I want a genuine singing section full of singers, not a singing section with singers, people who sing every now and again, and people who don’t sing at all.

Regarding the Ultras and their way of supporting, I don’t have a problem with it, I quite enjoy it. I don’t want to discuss that subject again as it has been done to death on the thread. Ultras and the way they support their teams will always split opinion amongst City fans and English football fans.

The whole of the new NS will be full of City fans. That is as far as it goes. Do I think it will be a Blue Wall, no I don’t. Do I think NSL2 and the NS will be a constantly singing tier and stand for the duration of the match, no I don’t. Do I think NSL2 will replicate what we already have on SSL1 and other singing sections and blocks around the ground, yes I do.

That’s not me being negative. That’s me being honest.

As for the picture. Fantastic. I was at the match. Football is different now.

Thanks for your reply, John. I know you are an honest guy and a top bloke.

The new North Stand needs to be a megaphone for the stadium, as SSL1 does not work because of the away fans. If the 1894 had come and said you're moving to the North Stand, you would not have got this reaction from fans on here.

As far back as our days chatting on SSC, we wanted the same thing, which was a BLUE WALL.

It was proven last year that fan power works; the same is needed here to get what the fans want

When we saw the plan, we were both not happy that City had flung the GA+ section into the North Stand.

Well done for meeting all the OSCs, but the email 1894 sent on the 22nd December came over that 1894. Do not want to move from SSL1, if you were to move to Tier 1 of the North Stand, along with Kippax Corner, more fans would follow so creating a vocal home end

This is the only way you are going to create the picture below

 

[EastMidlandsBlue]

Then there’s the pricing and we’ve still no idea on that. So while 1894 and the OSC will do as much as they possibly can, we can only do so much and everything over and above that will be governed by the club.

I think this is the absolute key.

If its priced badly, there's not going to be a blue wall regardless of advertising. If it's priced well, it might become a blue wall without any marketing needing to even take place.

Part of me remains somehwat optimistic that we can make something of this, perhaps a rather naive part of me.

 

[.db.]

While it’s had its moments and does have a more rowdy clientele than many other areas in the ground, the South Stand generally hasn’t worked since 2003, doesn’t work now and won’t work long-term as an atmosphere stand.

The tiers are too small and segregate fans into too small chunks here and there. Plus, away fans share the stand with home fans. Could you imagine the Holt End, Stretford End, the Kop or Gollowgate End ever sharing their stand with away fans? Our singers are too close to the away fans and often can’t be heard over them. At that end of the ground, there are sometimes upwards of 5 different songs being sung at the same time - with City fans in 110-111 singing one song, away fans in SSL0 singing a different song to away fans in SSL3, City fans in SSL0 singing a different song to City fans in 110-111 and City fans in SSL3 singing a different song to City fans in both 110-111 and SSL0. The South Stand often sounds like a complete mess of singing that people struggle pick out a song to join in with around the rest of the ground.

SSL0 is a poor area to have the Singing Section because it’s too shallow, it’s spread long rather than deep/high. The very back rows of the bottom tier have an overhang which traps in noise and doesn’t amplify it to the rest of the ground. The tier is never full before kick off, is the worst area in the ground for fans not being in their seats between 36 to 53 minutes, and while it was once the best part of the ground for staying until the final whistle it’s the same as anywhere else these days with loads of early leavers. It can’t compete with decent European fans who are allowed to bring drums in; the drums are too loud right next to our singers so we can’t get any rhythm going to our own songs and can’t be heard over them, and could you imagine how stupid it would sound if we brought our own drum and had two different sets of fans twatting a drum to different beats and speeds fifteen feet away from each other? And it can’t compete with 7,000 away fans taking over the stand in the domestic Cups.

SSL3 is a poor area to have a Singing Section because it’s almost never full for CL games (often sparsely populated because loads up there more than anywhere else in the ground aren’t in the Cup Schemes) and with it being taken over by away fans for domestic Cup games, there’s no point making this the Singing Section… could you imagine the Holt End, Stretford End, the Kop or Gollowgate End ever being given over to away fans in EFL/FA Cup games with all their fans forced to move out of their singing ends?

Recently, the South Stand has felt like it’s run its course and is at the end of its days as our atmosphere end.

 

[Bonnie Blues Cat.]

The club wants a 'Blue Wall' as does Pep, the players ,sponsors and most of the fans who will respond to a noisy,boisterous,steep,acoustic end.

1894 is a very small % of City's match going support and have,thus far, failed to make the Etihad an atmospheric stadium.

Their view is alien to the best long term interests of the club & appears self serving. Our fans need to be led, not mis led & 1894 are not leading !!

SS0 has been failing for years,its acoustics & rake being awful.

NS has been designed to be steep with an acoustic roof which projects sound down & out. It may not be perfect, but what is, and its probably be the last opportunity to establish a true City end.

Almost every other club I know has and 'end', some have both ends, Everton, Leeds Spurs,Villa et al, most new stadiums are now building steep,atmospheric 'walls'. Under 1894s plan we will have FIVE small unconnected singing sections !!



I hope every like minded member of this forum will actively & enthusiastically promote the NS as the first & principle atmosphere end & lobby 1894 to do likewise

 

[Didsbury Dave]

I think this is the absolute key.

If its priced badly, there's not going to be a blue wall regardless of advertising. If it's priced well, it might become a blue wall without any marketing needing to even take place.

Part of me remains somehwat optimistic that we can make something of this, perhaps a rather naive part of me.

They should offer the fans on the existing safe standing areas first refusal, the ability to move in groups and a half price season ticket with a guarantee that the new stand will never be more expensive than equivalent seats. That would actually sort it.

 

[Bonnie Blues Cat.]

There is a commonsense, incentivised, structure that will attract existing match goers and new ones.

Specific targets should be aimed at Mancunian school kids and youths along with lapsed season ticket holders.

Where there's a will there's a way if commonsense is encouraged & applied by all concerned.

#NS4Singers.

 

[mancityvstoke]

How do you know what effort people put in?, maybe the only option some have is to try and appeal to the main fan group who In their opinion are currently making a huge mistake and try and get them to reverse that decision??

Start your own fan group and influence the decision makers yourself instead of whinging on the internet but actually do fuck all

 

[Bonnie Blues Cat.]

Start your own fan group and influence the decision makers yourself instead of whinging on the internet but actually do fuck all

1894 neither unifying or leading our fans, but dividing and working against the best long term interests of the wider club.

 

[bladdered]

I would just offer the 3000 new rail seats to under 18's only at £400 a pop. If them fckers can't sing, we are truly fckd.

 

[jrb]

The club wants a 'Blue Wall' as does Pep, the players ,sponsors and most of the fans who will respond to a noisy,boisterous,steep,acoustic end.

1894 is a very small % of City's match going support and have,thus far, failed to make the Etihad an atmospheric stadium.

Their view is alien to the best long term interests of the club & appears self serving. Our fans need to be led, not mis led & 1894 are not leading !!

SS0 has been failing for years,its acoustics & rake being awful.

NS has been designed to be steep with an acoustic roof which projects sound down & out. It may not be perfect, but what is, and its probably be the last opportunity to establish a true City end.

Almost every other club I know has and 'end', some have both ends, Everton, Leeds Spurs,Villa et al, most new stadiums are now building steep,atmospheric 'walls'. Under 1894s plan we will have FIVE small unconnected singing sections !!



I hope every like minded member of this forum will actively & enthusiastically promote the NS as the first & principle atmosphere end & lobby 1894 to do likewise

The club wants a ‘blue wall’.

At what point have the club said they want a blue wall?

The SSL1 has been ‘failing for years’.

Really?

1894 have failed to make the Etihad an atmospheric stadium.

It’s up to the fans to make the Etihad stadium atmospheric, not 1894 or any other fan group.

6 posts.

Carry on…..

 

[Didsbury Dave]

The club wants a 'Blue Wall' as does Pep, the players ,sponsors and most of the fans who will respond to a noisy,boisterous,steep,acoustic end.

1894 is a very small % of City's match going support and have,thus far, failed to make the Etihad an atmospheric stadium.

Their view is alien to the best long term interests of the club & appears self serving. Our fans need to be led, not mis led & 1894 are not leading !!

SS0 has been failing for years,its acoustics & rake being awful.

NS has been designed to be steep with an acoustic roof which projects sound down & out. It may not be perfect, but what is, and its probably be the last opportunity to establish a true City end.

Almost every other club I know has and 'end', some have both ends, Everton, Leeds Spurs,Villa et al, most new stadiums are now building steep,atmospheric 'walls'. Under 1894s plan we will have FIVE small unconnected singing sections !!



I hope every like minded member of this forum will actively & enthusiastically promote the NS as the first & principle atmosphere end & lobby 1894 to do likewise

While it’s had its moments and does have a more rowdy clientele than many other areas in the ground, the South Stand generally hasn’t worked since 2003, doesn’t work now and won’t work long-term as an atmosphere stand.

The tiers are too small and segregate fans into too small chunks here and there. Plus, away fans share the stand with home fans. Could you imagine the Holt End, Stretford End, the Kop or Gollowgate End ever sharing their stand with away fans? Our singers are too close to the away fans and often can’t be heard over them. At that end of the ground, there are sometimes upwards of 5 different songs being sung at the same time - with City fans in 110-111 singing one song, away fans in SSL0 singing a different song to away fans in SSL3, City fans in SSL0 singing a different song to City fans in 110-111 and City fans in SSL3 singing a different song to City fans in both 110-111 and SSL0. The South Stand often sounds like a complete mess of singing that people struggle pick out a song to join in with around the rest of the ground.

SSL0 is a poor area to have the Singing Section because it’s too shallow, it’s spread long rather than deep/high. The very back rows of the bottom tier have an overhang which traps in noise and doesn’t amplify it to the rest of the ground. The tier is never full before kick off, is the worst area in the ground for fans not being in their seats between 36 to 53 minutes, and while it was once the best part of the ground for staying until the final whistle it’s the same as anywhere else these days with loads of early leavers. It can’t compete with decent European fans who are allowed to bring drums in; the drums are too loud right next to our singers so we can’t get any rhythm going to our own songs and can’t be heard over them, and could you imagine how stupid it would sound if we brought our own drum and had two different sets of fans twatting a drum to different beats and speeds fifteen feet away from each other? And it can’t compete with 7,000 away fans taking over the stand in the domestic Cups.

SSL3 is a poor area to have a Singing Section because it’s almost never full for CL games (often sparsely populated because loads up there more than anywhere else in the ground aren’t in the Cup Schemes) and with it being taken over by away fans for domestic Cup games, there’s no point making this the Singing Section… could you imagine the Holt End, Stretford End, the Kop or Gollowgate End ever being given over to away fans in EFL/FA Cup games with all their fans forced to move out of their singing ends?

Recently, the South Stand has felt like it’s run its course and is at the end of its days as our atmosphere end.

These two posts are conclusively proved by the fact that our away support is loud and our home support is not. Yet all those away fans are at the home games. I can’t understand why this is not obvious to everyone in the stadium.

 

[jrb]

1894 neither unifying or leading our fans, but dividing and working against the best long term interests of the wider club.

Ha, ha, ha!

What about the fan protests that were organised by the fan groups, including 1894, that supported the fans over match day ticket prices?

 

[M18CTID]

Ha, ha, ha!

What about the fan protests that were organised by the fan groups, including 1894, that supported the fans over match day ticket prices?

That poster has literally popped up out of nowhere and is taking pot shots at 1894. Stinks of a certain wum’s burner account.

 

[LEXSTARproject]

Please watch this video from Martin's channel, which was about the North Stand

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

I think this is the absolute key.

If its priced badly, there's not going to be a blue wall regardless of advertising. If it's priced well, it might become a blue wall without any marketing needing to even take place.

Part of me remains somehwat optimistic that we can make something of this, perhaps a rather naive part of me.

I think the new stand will be great for the biggest matches just as our fans are now. I am not sure the attitude of City fans has changed much over the years. Maine Road was only rocking for the major matches in the 70s and 80s and we have had some incredible atmospheres at the Etihad. Our fans have always arrived late and left early. It was worse at Maine Road to be honest. I think getting to the pub has a lot to do with it.

 

[jrb]

That poster has literally popped up out of nowhere and is taking pot shots at 1894. Stinks of a certain wum’s burner account.

Exactly.

Joined on the 29th of November.

6 posts.

Constant negative remarks about 1894 in their initial post on this thread.

On the plus side, Bonnie is starting a new fan group and movement, #NS4Singers.

Let’s hope it’s in place by the time NSL2 is open and operational?

 

[LEXSTARproject]

What is this forum like? People are constantly attacking people. We're supposed to fan base that supports our team. Our players and manager are telling us to up the atmosphere by raising their hands for everyone to up the atmosphere

At the moment, the stadium set-up does not work, as has been proven in the atmosphere issues noted here.

What is happening just now is that the club, for one, is above approach regarding the North Stand, which is not a good sign, as the stand is for the fans.

I am a member of the 1894 and did not hear of any plans until I received an email mailer. The club needs to come out and do a questionnaire regarding the North Stand, as what's going on just now is simply dividing the fan base

 

[M18CTID]

Exactly.

Joined on the 29th of November.

6 posts.

Constant negative remarks about 1894 in their initial post.

Yep. The stench is strong with that one.

Just to take one of his points though. It’s interesting that he says 1894’s plan is for 5 smaller singing areas rather than 1 big singing area in the new stand. I’d like to know how he thinks it would be possible to have just one singing area. I mean, does he think even if 1894 recommended it, every single singer would vacate SS1, SS3, and Kippax Corner to NS2, leaving absolutely no singers in those ends? Whatever 1894’s stance, there’s no way in a million years that’s ever happening. Why? Because most fans are happy staying put in those areas and no amount of persuading from 1894 will persuade them to up sticks. Given that the official singing section from years ago in 110/111 only saw about a dozen fans move from there to the new singing section in 114/115 - you and I were two of those fans - after a huge public push from 1894, what makes him think it would be any different this time if 1894 pushed for everyone to move to NS2? Fact is that any relocations to NS2 will be from all areas of the stadium and not just those specific areas. After all, there are singers in other parts of the ground too.

And even if, by some miracle, every single singer from the 3 main recognised singing areas expressed a desire to relocate, there wouldn’t be enough spaces in NS2 to put them all in because the club won’t allow that many fans to relocate there. As such, the other singing sections would still exist regardless.