Atmosphere Thread | 2025/26

JGL07 said:
Sorry but I have to disagree with you there. Feeble excuses.

People leave matches early and always will leave early. It is bugger-all to do with transportation facilities or anything else.

Back in the 1960s at Old Trafford, people would be shuffling out from just after 65 minutes. Back then Old Trafford was far better connected than Maine Road. Leaving early was in the culture. And it remains so for for many today at all grounds including the Etihad.

No-one leaves a theatre before the play has ended but at football matches, far too many skip off to ‘beat the queues’.

Remember the thousands of City fans who left Wembley in the play-off against Gillingham with City 2-0 down!
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And v QPR.. if it had finished 2-2 I would have stayed to clap the team off for what was one of the best footballing seasons I could remember. I would have been pissed off not to have won but we always stay to the end to clap the team off.
 
Bonnie Blues Cat. said:
Fair do's, but don't pollute the thread with any negativity towards those who wisely see the short, medium & long term future in the Blue Wall.

There are none so blind as those who chose not to see !!
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I want it to work, me or 1894 aren't against it , if it works then only improves atmosphere, even better if we could improve it at both ends of ground, Club have messed about so much with no prices, no set date for opening, lack of communication with fans , more corporate.

As has been stated 1894 will help anyone who wants to move.

My reply before may have came across a bit twatty but many tell others to move or sing and don't do either themselves, it's up to everyone fan to improve the atmosphere, let's see if NS2 can do that.
 
Bert Swift said:
How many fans are aware of the questionnaire that 1894 has produced? Does it have a balanced introduction and context? Are the questions reasonable and logical?
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This is something I've asked a few times and never really received a straight answer.

The most recent survey where it was asked if members would be moving there the North or South Stand was released as part of a mailer where it was explicitly stated that 1894 wanted to strengthen the South stand.

The truth is that if we ACTUALLY want to know how the majority of fans feel then the survey would need to be fairly administered by the club. They're probably not arsed enough
 
EastMidlandsBlue said:
This is something I've asked a few times and never really received a straight answer.

The most recent survey where it was asked if members would be moving there the North or South Stand was released as part of a mailer where it was explicitly stated that 1894 wanted to strengthen the South stand.

The truth is that if we ACTUALLY want to know how the majority of fans feel then the survey would need to be fairly administered by the club. They're probably not arsed enough
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Your last comment is sadly looking more and more like the truth.
 
NJMCFC184 said:
I want it to work, me or 1894 aren't against it , if it works then only improves atmosphere, even better if we could improve it at both ends of ground, Club have messed about so much with no prices, no set date for opening, lack of communication with fans , more corporate.

As has been stated 1894 will help anyone who wants to move.

My reply before may have came across a bit twatty but many tell others to move or sing and don't do either themselves, it's up to everyone fan to improve the atmosphere, let's see if NS2 can do that.
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In answer to your points -

1. Prices - the rail seating in the North Stand will be less than the existng rail seating in the South Stand level 0. That is obvious.

2. Date for opening - it is a major, complicated, construction project. Subject to all the many checks and requirements being satisfied, the stand will open this season. There will be test events as always happens. Only the construction team and club will know when this is feasible.

Next season the stand will be fully operational.

3. More corporate - the club has lost the private boxes from the North Stand.
300 General Admission + (GA+) seats will be near the front of a huge tier of about 9,500 rail seating / general admission seats.

Please can you answer these questions as an 1894 "member" -

(a) I set out questions in my post above. Can you please answer all of them?

( b) why do any of the points 1 to 3 above affect the better chance to improve the atmosphere moving forward in 2026/27 season?

(c) what is going to change in SS0 that will improve the atmosphere?

4. Do you agree that, from an atmosphere perspective, having as many actual and potential singers as possible in the big CITY END has more chance of being better?

This is compared with the small South Stand level 0 which is split from SS3 and shared with away fans who sometimes dominate in the PL and usually dominate in cup matches.

A lot of us are seeking to understand the rationale of 1894, who they are, and the reasoning for their premature stance on this.
 
1 -people i speak to wanted info early to plan, there is people in 1894 who fancy moving over, their choice, I'm happy in 015 where I've been since restructuring of SStand, maybe I'd have moved if just 6-9000 safe standing, all singers etc but diluted with corporate and don't get me started on the new shite in NS lower

2-With SS lower I'd love it go back to what it was originally, a singing section, make it all Singing not people just there for one game, have a waiting list to get in there, inject some youth in there, I'd fuck the DJ off the concourse, keeps people in bar rather than in stands, if we got 2 ends Singing then great

3- Everyone needs step up , 1894 can try for ideas as can everyone but singing against Liverpool and United then not bothering vs everyone else doesn't help does it? We have an understated atmosphere when we are on it, Ask Vini Jr, Valverde, Alexander Arnold who've all said same, be great if both ends going for it and having Bournemouth/Forest/Everton players/fans saying the same.
 
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Bert Swift said:
In answer to your points -

1. Prices - the rail seating in the North Stand will be less than the existng rail seating in the South Stand level 0. That is obvious.

2. Date for opening - it is a major, complicated, construction project. Subject to all the many checks and requirements being satisfied, the stand will open this season. There will be test events as always happens. Only the construction team and club will know when this is feasible.

Next season the stand will be fully operational.

3. More corporate - the club has lost the private boxes from the North Stand.
300 General Admission + (GA+) seats will be near the front of a huge tier of about 9,500 rail seating / general admission seats.

Please can you answer these questions as an 1894 "member" -

(a) I set out questions in my post above. Can you please answer all of them?

( b) why do any of the points 1 to 3 above affect the better chance to improve the atmosphere moving forward in 2026/27 season?

(c) what is going to change in SS0 that will improve the atmosphere?

4. Do you agree that, from an atmosphere perspective, having as many actual and potential singers as possible in the big CITY END has more chance of being better?

This is compared with the small South Stand level 0 which is split from SS3 and shared with away fans who sometimes dominate in the PL and usually dominate in cup matches.

A lot of us are seeking to understand the rationale of 1894, who they are, and the reasoning for their premature stance on this.
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'The Blue Masons'.

Re your final paragraph.

1894 have gone early on this and appear to have painted themselves into a tight corner.

They could've raised legitimate questions, but awaited the final detail, before determining their final stance.

Now they are sliding defensivly into a position of difficult return because, if the club produces the outcome that #NS4SINGERS want,1894 will be isolated against the wishes and actions of the club, and the #NS4Singers majority.

The responsibility for this unnecessary situation lies squarely at the door of 1894s leadership.

They could've/should've become the ultimate 'winners' in this matter and enhanced their position as the legitimate, unofficial, representatives of City fans of all ages,being in the vanguard of the NS development.

Who knows, the club may even have marked the opening of NS by naming it the 1894 End,a most notable year in our history.

However that slight possibility has now gone & the club will proceed with the 93.20 End, another notable mark in our modern history.

Sergio Aguero & David Silva will perform the official opening which has the potential to be a memorable occasion and one that will exist in perpetuity to remind all City fans of that magical moment in time......and equally remind the rag cretins of one of the darkest moments in their rancid history !!
 
Bert Swift said:
Atmosphere Group

The North Stand is the way forward to have a better chance of improving the atmosphere in the stadium.

The facts and rationale for this have been set out in previous posts by a number of well reasoned contributors to this discussion.

Yet the atmosphere group declared their position a long time ago against the logical establishment of the NORTH STAND as THE CITY END.

Instead, their stated, main preference is to try and encourage more to relocate to the South Stand (SS) in order to consolidate it.

This stance is despite the facts showing that, notwithstanding good efforts, the SS which has approx. 3,000 away fans for PL matches and up to 8,0000 approx. away in cup matches, can never be as good as one huge stand (the NORTH STAND) holding approx. 9,500 seats / safe standing, all on ONE level, all for CITY.

It is also despite the fact that the new rail seating seats in the North Stand will obviously be cheaper than the existing rail seats in the South Stand Level 0 which is where the main "singing sections" are currently located.
  1. Who are 1894?
  2. Are they an atmosphere group, first and foremost ? A group that generates noise and backing for the team?
  3. 1894 refer to their members.Is there a membership joining subscription?
    Is there a commitment that members have to give to 1894 as part of this so-called membership? Or. is this mainly an e-mail and Facebook etc. circulation list?
  4. How many fans are aware of the questionnaire that 1894 has produced? Does it have a balanced introduction and context? Are the questions reasonable and logical?
  5. What is the role of the Official Supporters Club in this?
CITY sits at the top of the league in the calendar year 2025. We are currently second this season. There is much to look forward to again in 2026.

The club has indicated on its web site that more information will be provided on the new North Stand in the new year.

Lets make the most of this superb North Stand opportunity - the club, all of us fans, those who want the best chance to lift the atmosphere and create THE CITY END.
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To just answer #2, as just a City fan looking on at 1894 from the outside; I wouldn’t say 1894 are an atmosphere group, no.

1894 are a fantastic display group who organise and spend a lot of time+money on often excellent displays (sometimes the odd bobbins one). 1894 are also a group who stand up for the general fanbase as they have a name, identity and voice so can liaise with other groups and the club. In my opinion, 1894 do the latter better than City Matters (apart from the excellent Alex) ever has.

They are great at both of those aspects. Some of displays they’ve organised have been superb and the work that went into organising the protests around ticketing last season forced the club to freeze ST prices, reduce their matchticket prices and release more STs, again, was superb work. The club would have made STs and matchday tickets more expensive and wouldn’t have released more STs without that movement, and have been very thankful for that this season with my expensive ST not becoming more expensive!

However, where they might have originally come together to be an atmosphere group, they might have a core purpose of wanting a better atmosphere, they might have members who are amongst the core singers in the Singing Section… in all, I think they are other things before an atmosphere group. Certainly from the outside looking in, they are identifiable as a display group and voice for the fans group, but they aren’t identifiable as an atmosphere group.

I was disappointed to once read one of their members on here say that they had purposely diverted towards more clap-along focused songs that are quieter, less audible chants, and diverted away from singing some of our classic chants (that were mainly the chants that had the words ‘City’ ‘Manchester’ ‘Man City’ in them), especially those that had no clapping and the big long notes where fans put their arms in the air and belted out the big volume songs like ‘Na na na naaa na na na naaa City’ (how often do you ever hear that belted out by our fans these days?). I think that’s been to the detriment of our atmosphere as those chants were often the chants we’d sing when it was 0-0 or we were behind and the team needed a lift or would mix in as a bit of variety with the clap-along chants and player chants which are sung as more celebratory songs when we’re winning.
 
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Looking forward to hearing the atmosphere at Elland Rd this weekend, it's the one place the rags receive the welcome they richly deserve.
 
I fully support what the 1894 did in fighting the club on ticket prices and organising displays and being a voice of fans, most of what is written above comes across like a union

A vast majority of fans on here want a BLUE WALL, an atmospheric home end

The club are not going to give us this, but there is nothing stopping anybody from setting up a group that wants to bring an atmosphere to the North Stand

There is no point in arguing over the 1894 stance; they have advised that they want to stay in the lower section of the south stand.

It would be good if they did move to the New North Stand, but at the moment, they have made their stance clear

Can we make up the following thread, which can be full of people who want a BLUE WALL and an atmospheric home end?

Because on this thread, there are going to be people for and against it

Someone did set up a thread, but it's no longer there

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I’m looking forward to seeing the didsbury Dave ultras in the north stand.

With his tremendous knowledge drive and influence it’s gonna be a real game changer

Hearing City City ra ra ra is gonna be the first chant
 
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