Attack in Forbury gardens (Reading)

[Fame Monster]

I can assure you that seeking a charge and conviction takes precedence over mental health act assessments and detention.

Possibly for some police forces but I'm not sure about GMP.

We've had at least 3 attacks since the Arena bombing in Greater Manchester with many of the hallmarks of terrorism where the police have rushed out to allege the attacker was suffering from mental health issues. It doesn't take a great defence barrister to conclude that, with the police making that early determination, that there's a pretty good chance of using that defence for his client to get him/her acquitted or a lesser sentence.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

I struggle to see how this can be classified as a terrorist incident if the Police say they don't think anyone else was involved nor are they looking for anyone else.

Surely, there would have to be some kind of back up if it's terrorist related? Maybe a group? Or a forum? Though a cell seems unlikely given they're not looking for anyone else?

The killer could have been brain washed by the ideology, watching videos on-line etc. They might have been brainwashed in prison that’s a big problem.

 

[bert38]

Possibly for some police forces but I'm not sure about GMP.

We've had at least 3 attacks since the Arena bombing in Greater Manchester with many of the hallmarks of terrorism where the police have rushed out to allege the attacker was suffering from mental health issues. It doesn't take a great defence barrister to conclude that, with the police making that early determination, that there's a pretty good chance of using that defence for his client to get him/her acquitted or a lesser sentence.

It is extremely likely that this detainee will be assessed by a health care professional to establish their fitness to detain and fitness to interview and mental capacity. mens rea requires guilty knowledge.

 

[brooklandsblue2.0]

Always playing so eager to play the “mental health” card..... like no shit Sherlock, if you’re going to randomly stab people you’re probably not the most stable of people. However, that does not excuse that people are radicalising / grooming them in a warped form
of their ideology (often in prisons). THAT needs to be addressed urgently and extremely harshly.

 

[Mon Autre]

Odd the same people condoning and supporting a narrative of "collective guilt", "reparations", "systemic prejudice and inequality" over the past few weeks because it suited their ideology are now so quick to shut down the same discussion because the shoe's on the other foot.

Sums the whole thing up for what it is though.

My advice would be to find out about a bit more what those things mean before clumsily bringing them up in a different context.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Always playing so eager to play the “mental health” card..... like no shit Sherlock, if you’re going to randomly stab people you’re probably not the most stable of people. However, that does not excuse that people are radicalising / grooming them in a warped form
of their ideology (often in prisons). THAT needs to be addressed urgently and extremely harshly.

There's your problem. By dealing with an ideology that lives and breathes by perpetuating the idea of victimhood and therefore a morally justified jihad 'extremely harshly' you are feeding it.

 

[Ric]

Heartbreaking that three more families have had their lives ripped apart today. It's a thoroughly depressing world we live in at present. Not even sure how you can prevent attacks like this though if, as believed, he was acting alone. As others have mentioned, radicalisation in prisons particularly does seem to be a big problem that needs to be addressed. Think that was also a factor in the Streatham attack earlier in the year.

 

[brooklandsblue2.0]

There's your problem. By dealing with an ideology that lives and breathes by perpetuating the idea of victimhood and therefore a morally justified jihad 'extremely harshly' you are feeding it.

So what do we do? Light some candles? Sing don’t look back in anger? Cos that’s not worked particularly well thus far.

 

[bluebrother55]

There's your problem. By dealing with an ideology that lives and breathes by perpetuating the idea of victimhood and therefore a morally justified jihad 'extremely harshly' you are feeding it.

Victimhood, sponsored by the cultural Marxists is now the go to excuse in Western Europe unfortunately. It won’t end well, for any of us.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

There's your problem. By dealing with an ideology that lives and breathes by perpetuating the idea of victimhood and therefore a morally justified jihad 'extremely harshly' you are feeding it.

There's not an extremist group on the planet that doesn't operate from a position of perceived victimhood. Even white nationalists see themselves as the real victims.