The complaining about the 'singing section' and 1894 that I've seen on this thread and others I feel is very unjust. I stand in 114 and the singing section does exactly that, it sings. Albeit a fair few of the songs started are a bit naff/out of date and need knocking on the head, I'm looking at the back row of 115 here - Hull at home especially. But all the time there are genuine attempts to create an atmosphere. However, what doesn't happen is it doesn't spread around the ground. I remember a few years ago the rest of the ground would join in with things, granted it was mainly "stand up if you love city" but at least it was something. Now you have the whole ground sitting, looking at the south stand and complaining that we're not singing loud enough and that the atmosphere is crap. There are so many occasions when then rest of the ground can get involved but they don't. You can't even get a blue moon or a couple of claps in "if you hate man united.." off people. Then cue the 80th minute everyone is off. Then we have a cup semi final and nobody can be arsed to go! To a semi final!!! A chance to get to a final, when we need our fans to help turn around the deficit and we have two tiers closed and a load of seats available. I'm only 19 and it's scary to think that the days of our fans being good are behind us and that this is it for the foreseeable future.