Attendances

[SWP's back]

As long as it's not compulsory. Not everyone wants to watch the Euro-hype.
I'm missing this in favour of the Carling Cup next week - and I don't care how many empty seats there are.

That's just crazy but each to their own.

 

[worsleyweb]

Just looked at the seat planner - I would guess we will end up with 48,000. Lots of people do the champions league last minute.

 

[blueparrot]

Just looked at the seat planner - I would guess we will end up with 48,000. Lots of people do the champions league last minute.

To put that into perspective 48000 would be more than a sold out game last season.

 

[mrtwiceaseason]

Not a bad idea that sweep..maybe lob an extra 50 notes on

Sorry don't agree don't go to the champs league because I don't enjoy it and also their comes a point where you can only justify paying so much of your family wage on football.
£150 on our 3 s/c would probably mean us having to give them up

 

[wolfie1988]

Just looked at the seat planner - I would guess we will end up with 48,000. Lots of people do the champions league last minute.

Not sure about that WW. I reckon somewhere closer to 45k. If the 3 upper tiers are half full that would leave around 9k empties. We know the away section of 3rd tier is definitely unsold tonight. The East Stand was put on sale yesterday and they're not exaclty flying out this morning.

Hopefully with the new print at home option City can keep them for sale online for longer than usual

 

[M18CTID]

Just looked at the seat planner - I would guess we will end up with 48,000. Lots of people do the champions league last minute.

Ticket sales seem to have flatlined since the 3rd tier if the East Stand appeared on the planner yesterday - there was an initial surge in sales but surprisingly little since. I'm sure there will be a last minute rush but I can't see it being on the scale of Juve so 48,000 may be a tad optimistic. Anything approaching 45,000 will be a decent crowd though when you consider loads of season ticket holders aren't on the CL cup scheme.

 

[M18CTID]

Not sure about that WW. I reckon somewhere closer to 45k. If the 3 upper tiers are half full that would leave around 9k empties. We know the away section of 3rd tier is definitely unsold tonight. The East Stand was put on sale yesterday and they're not exaclty flying out this morning.

Hopefully with the new print at home option City can keep them for sale online for longer than usual

The best thing City could've done with the print at home option is to e-mail everybody on their mailing list to make them aware of it. Not everyone looks at the official website and for those that might have been put off after spending ages queueing up for Juve tickets and missing a big chunk of the match, they'd be even less inclined to log on to the website to buy tickets for tonight.

 

[wolfie1988]

The best thing City could've done with the print at home option is to e-mail everybody on their mailing list to make them aware of it. Not everyone looks at the official website and for those that might have been put off after spending ages queueing up for Juve tickets and missing a big chunk of the match, they'd be even less inclined to log on to the website to buy tickets for tonight.

Correct. The Juve game was a farce and will rightly have put people off buying late again. The only good thing for those who were in that queue was that it was an unManchester-like dry day. Tonight....i'm not so sure

 

[DJBusinesscake]

When is the final part of the expansion due to start? Or is it not yet set in stone?

 

[MCFCRICH]

I honestly think City need to start offering a season card that gives you access to every home game which includes League Cup, FA Cup and Champions League, People don't tend to sign up to cup schemes on the basis they may not know their financial situation at the time of the money been taken therefore they would rather just wait and see either if they can make the game or more importantly if they can afford the game, If City was to offer a season card for every home game it would increase crowds and as a fan you could span the cost of the games over 10 easy payments rather than for example this month two lots of Money coming out for the Palace game and the Seville game.

If City was to next season offer say all the cup games for say £145 on top of your season card price, which you would be looking at least 6 games (4 in the champions league and 1 in the FA Cup and 1 in the League Cup) then that would show great value for money and lets be honest you would get more than 6 games i reckon.

This would be a choice rather than what United do and i think would see an increase in crowds and would make things a lot easier for fans financially...

 

[Manchester33]

I'm shocked this hasn't got closer to selling out - tickets are £25!

The thing I don't get is that it's a great opportunity for a group of mates, who normally go and watch the game in the pub together, to go and sit next to each other and enjoy the game in the stadium for a change. Pubs will be full of people watching tonight, people who don't go normally as well. Why not go for a change?

 

[worsleyweb]

Has the Colin Bell upper tier ever been on sale for this one?

The lower tier and middle tier look pretty much sold out so that's 23,000 plus 13,000 - 36,000. East and West Upper Tiers hold 5,500 each - that's 11,000. Say half full - takes us to 41,500. Add 3,000 in South Stand - as it stands I guestimate we have sold 44,500. We will sell another few thousand today I would have thought. You may be right I might have been pushing it a bit and its a grim day / night. 45K+ would be decent. 47k+ good. Its not quite as glamorous as Juve.

 

[blueparrot]

Has the Colin Bell upper tier ever been on sale for this one?

The lower tier and middle tier look pretty much sold out so that's 23,000 plus 13,000 - 36,000. East and West Upper Tiers hold 5,500 each - that's 11,000. Say half full - takes us to 41,500. Add 3,000 in South Stand - as it stands I guestimate we have sold 44,500. We will sell another few thousand today I would have thought. You may be right I might have been pushing it a bit and its a grim day / night. 45K+ would be decent. 47k+ good. Its not quite as glamorous as Juve.

It's not been on sale but when the East stand level 3 went on sale it was already 1/2 to 3/4 sold so I assume the CB and South level 3 will be at least half sold. So working back if there are about 6000 unsold in those 2 plus at a guess 2000 unsold on the planner I would guess we are at about 45000 sold at the moment. As I posted earlier if we can achieve what would have been a sell out last season that will be a good effort.

 

[worsleyweb]

Few selling now on East Upper Tier - always goes mad at lunchtime on the day of the game.

 

[Wilf Wild 1937]

Anything over 40,000 tonight is okay for me. 45,000+ would be very good. Personally I reckon it will come in somewhere between 40-45,000. It doesn't look like they are bringing many, the weather is a bit shit and nobody really likes the CL. I'm in the cup scheme in CB L3 so it will be interesting to see exactly how many are in that area. I'm guessing mainly cup schemers and maybe a few on travel package type schemes that you tend to get at CL games.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Our attendances right now compare favourably to Liverpool, who have millions more fans than us. And not just in recent times, when Anfield has a lower capacity, but also in all of their European games, throughout their rich istree. At this stage, v similar opposition, Liverpool were far from selling out Anfield, in their glory days, with terraces & cheap football. If you don't believe me, check out their own rich istree site. http://www.lfchistory.net/SeasonArchive/ListGamesByType/4

Example: Tuesday 6 November 1973 at 19:30, European Cup 2nd R 2L, Liverpool 1-2 Red Star Belgrade Att: 41,774 which equates to 10,000 empty seats (or spaces on the Kop).

1976/77 42,275 v Trabsonspur at a similar stage. They had 50k for the Semi final v Zurich that season but had previously got 55,043, v St Etienne in the qf, so obviously the away fans from France had swelled up what would have been a below capacity attendance for a QF. Liverpool did not sell out Anfield, for the European Cup Semi final, v Zurich, in the year they first won it.

As holders the following season, 39,835 v Dresden, 48,364 v Benfica in the QF, 51,500 in the Semi final. The previous season, they had 55,881 vs Boro in the FA Cup, 6th round.

80/81: 21,013 v Oulu Palloseura, 36,182 v Aberdeen, 37,255 v CSKA Sofia, 44,543 v Bayern Munich (SF)

83/84: 14,985 v Odense, 33,063 v Bilbao, 39,096 v Benfica (QF) 36,941, v Bucharest (SF)

84/85: 22,143 v Poznan, 27,733 v Benfica, 32,761 v Austria Vienna (QF), 39,488 v Panathinaikos (SF)

That's 4 of their 5 European Cups, right there. So they managed to get a few more fans due to milking the exposure Sky gave then & now MIGHT be able to get bigger attendances when Anfield is expanded. So fucking what ?

We should not be worried about our attendances in the Champions Lg. We are doing better than they were & with their 'istree' they are the yardstick we are supposedly being judged by.

Let's have a look in ten years & see how we are doing then.

 

[willipp]

Has the Colin Bell upper tier ever been on sale for this one?

The lower tier and middle tier look pretty much sold out so that's 23,000 plus 13,000 - 36,000. East and West Upper Tiers hold 5,500 each - that's 11,000. Say half full - takes us to 41,500. Add 3,000 in South Stand - as it stands I guestimate we have sold 44,500. We will sell another few thousand today I would have thought. You may be right I might have been pushing it a bit and its a grim day / night. 45K+ would be decent. 47k+ good. Its not quite as glamorous as Juve.

I think anything over 45k is pretty good really. Rewind 12 months and thats a pretty full stadium for a not so glamorous CL fixture. Throw the weather into the mix and 45k is a very good turn out.

 

[M18CTID]

Our attendances right now compare favourably to Liverpool, who have millions more fans than us. And not just in recent times, when Anfield has a lower capacity, but also in all of their European games, throughout their rich istree. At this stage, v similar opposition, Liverpool were far from selling out Anfield, in their glory days, with terraces & cheap football. If you don't believe me, check out their own rich istree site. http://www.lfchistory.net/SeasonArchive/ListGamesByType/4

Example: Tuesday 6 November 1973 at 19:30, European Cup 2nd R 2L, Liverpool 1-2 Red Star Belgrade Att: 41,774 which equates to 10,000 empty seats (or spaces on the Kop).

1976/77 42,275 v Trabsonspur at a similar stage. They had 50k for the Semi final v Zurich that season but had previously got 55,043, v St Etienne in the qf, so obviously the away fans from France had swelled up what would have been a below capacity attendance for a QF. Liverpool did not sell out Anfield, for the European Cup Semi final, v Zurich, in the year they first won it.

As holders the following season, 39,835 v Dresden, 48,364 v Benfica in the QF, 51,500 in the Semi final. The previous season, they had 55,881 vs Boro in the FA Cup, 6th round.

80/81: 21,013 v Oulu Palloseura, 36,182 v Aberdeen, 37,255 v CSKA Sofia, 44,543 v Bayern Munich (SF)

83/84: 14,985 v Odense, 33,063 v Bilbao, 39,096 v Benfica (QF) 36,941, v Bucharest (SF)

84/85: 22,143 v Poznan, 27,733 v Benfica, 32,761 v Austria Vienna (QF), 39,488 v Panathinaikos (SF)

That's 4 of their 5 European Cups, right there. So they managed to get a few more fans due to milking the exposure Sky gave then & now MIGHT be able to get bigger attendances when Anfield is expanded. So fucking what ?

We should not be worried about our attendances in the Champions Lg. We are doing better than they were & with their 'istree' they are the yardstick we are supposedly being judged by.

Let's have a look in ten years & see how we are doing then.

Fantastic research mate. Less than 15,000 at Anfield for a European Cup match when they had by far the best team in England - I wonder what the mouth-breathers on RAWK have to say about that.

 

[supercity88]

Most clubs don't sell out unless the games are desirable. There are few clubs that sell out for every game and most of those have a fanbase that looks forward to the CL. Arsenal fans will always attend games as there are so many thousands who are unable to attend league games and will snap up tickets. It's the same with Chelsea (albeit in a smaller ground). It's true of the rags even, they're reported attendances are always sell outs but I know from social media that it's easier to get tickets as I know people from the South who manage to get tickets to European games who can't for league matches.

45,000 is a good turnout. We always travel well away from home and it's not a competition the fans are particularly bothered about. What we need is a Hamburgesque knockout game to provoke interest. We'll only get that if we're away from home in the first leg which means winning the group! Until we have that circumstance I don't think we'll get over the lack of interest. The Hamburg game was so good because we knew we needed to support the team with the deficit and it was buzzing that day. The whole stadium was rocking and despite Dunne being sent off we nearly did it. If we can get a 2nd leg at home I think it will generate huge support and the club can market the game easily.

 

[Pablo ZZZ Peroni]

Our attendances right now compare favourably to Liverpool, who have millions more fans than us. And not just in recent times, when Anfield has a lower capacity, but also in all of their European games, throughout their rich istree. At this stage, v similar opposition, Liverpool were far from selling out Anfield, in their glory days, with terraces & cheap football. If you don't believe me, check out their own rich istree site. http://www.lfchistory.net/SeasonArchive/ListGamesByType/4

Example: Tuesday 6 November 1973 at 19:30, European Cup 2nd R 2L, Liverpool 1-2 Red Star Belgrade Att: 41,774 which equates to 10,000 empty seats (or spaces on the Kop).

1976/77 42,275 v Trabsonspur at a similar stage. They had 50k for the Semi final v Zurich that season but had previously got 55,043, v St Etienne in the qf, so obviously the away fans from France had swelled up what would have been a below capacity attendance for a QF. Liverpool did not sell out Anfield, for the European Cup Semi final, v Zurich, in the year they first won it. AVERAGE LEAGUE ATTENDANCE 47,221

As holders the following season, 39,835 v Dresden, 48,364 v Benfica in the QF, 51,500 in the Semi final. The previous season, they had 55,881 vs Boro in the FA Cup, 6th round.

80/81: 21,013 v Oulu Palloseura, 36,182 v Aberdeen, 37,255 v CSKA Sofia, 44,543 v Bayern Munich (SF) AVG LEAGUE ATTENDANCE 37,547

83/84: 14,985 v Odense, 33,063 v Bilbao, 39,096 v Benfica (QF) 36,941, v Bucharest (SF) AVG LEAGUE ATTENDANCE 31,974

84/85: 22,143 v Poznan, 27,733 v Benfica, 32,761 v Austria Vienna (QF), 39,488 v Panathinaikos (SF) AVG LEAGUE ATTENDANCE 34,444

That's 4 of their 5 European Cups, right there. So they managed to get a few more fans due to milking the exposure Sky gave then & now MIGHT be able to get bigger attendances when Anfield is expanded. So fucking what ?

We should not be worried about our attendances in the Champions Lg. We are doing better than they were & with their 'istree' they are the yardstick we are supposedly being judged by.

Let's have a look in ten years & see how we are doing then.

My kind of post. Brilliant work sir.

I've added average league attendance for the relevant years in your post for further reference.