Australia passes social media ban for under 16s

Come off it ! Gambling sites have strict measures and require a lot of ID proof, address, bank details to let anyone over the age of 18 be permitted to place a bet. Yes, some tiny % of kids still slip through the net and manage to place a bet. but surely we should do all we can to prevent them ? Not total deregulation and let it be a free for all, how many hundreds of thousands would that be a risk too ? same for alcohol, some kids manage to purchase it so by your logic just let every child have access to alcohol ? really don't see how you can argue against this unless you really don't care about kids and if they want to do alcohol, cocaine and go into strip joints then so be it!
I'm taking the piss because this "social media ban" is absolutely nothing at all like these regulated industries and will be overturned within a few years.
It is a stupid and pointless endeavour, supported by people with zero knowledge of how the Internet functions both on a technical and social level.
 
I'm taking the piss because this "social media ban" is absolutely nothing at all like these regulated industries and will be overturned within a few years.
It is a stupid and pointless endeavour, supported by people with zero knowledge of how the Internet functions both on a technical and social level.
Oh and don't want your kids being harmed by social media? Then parent your fucking kids. Stop asking Governments to step in because you can't be arsed to do even the most basic level of parenting.
 
Oh and don't want your kids being harmed by social media? Then parent your fucking kids. Stop asking Governments to step in because you can't be arsed to do even the most basic level of parenting.
Whilst I might not have used such robust wording, yes I agree parents, acting like parents (not mates) and teaching kids right from wrong and/or preventing access is what should occur.

To coin a phrase "if the majority of adults (parents) want it to happen" then it will happen.
 
Oh and don't want your kids being harmed by social media? Then parent your fucking kids. Stop asking Governments to step in because you can't be arsed to do even the most basic level of parenting.

I can't think of any solution that isn't don't let your kids have a smart phone...cos how can you stop them otherwise when they're at school and not being supervised all day? As you pointed out, kids are smart. They'll get past any restrictions and bans so what's the alternative?
 
I can't think of any solution that isn't don't let your kids have a smart phone...cos how can you stop them otherwise when they're at school and not being supervised all day? As you pointed out, kids are smart. They'll get past any restrictions and bans so what's the alternative?
Education. Phones in schools is another issue altogether that does need stopping.
 
Education

Sure...but they're kids and no amount of being a great parent can stop an immature child giving in to peer pressure at some point. The Internet is a horrific place for young minds full of genuinely horrible things, easily accessible. Thankfully we didn't grow up exposed to it. It's vastly different to anything we had as kids.
 
My kids are 10 and 7. I'm dreading social media.

Already the 10 year old is in the minority at School as she doesn't have a phone. One of her mates turned up at ours aged 9 for a sleepover with 2 phones and an iPad.

Part of me feels bad/guilty when others are flashing phones about infront of her and I can see the look on her face.

We will give her a phone when she goes to High School, so we know where she is etc. Then comes all the crap that comes with it.
 
One of the biggest problems with social media is that the feeds are now are hugely made up of recommended content.

I redownloaded Facebook the other day to look at some old photos and my feed wasn’t even made up of people I follow and was recommending the usual outrage stories to drill up the anti-work crowd. You’d have to ask why this was being recommended considering my dislike to such content.

Unfortunately some people scroll and scroll and end up polluting their brains with this bullshit aimed at causing division. When they start following these accounts they then end up creating an echo chamber of hate which feeds the desire for more and more content.

I don’t think ‘better parenting’ is a reasonable suggestion considering a lot of adults also become victims of this whole entrapment cycle. We need safeguards in place to ensure a large part of the population don’t become zombies especially where these apps are operated by billionaires with their own political agenda.
 
Oh and don't want your kids being harmed by smoking? Then parent your fucking kids. Stop asking Governments to step in because you can't be arsed to do even the most basic level of parenting.


Oh and don't want your kids being harmed by underage drinking? Then parent your fucking kids. Stop asking Governments to step in because you can't be arsed to do even the most basic level of parenting.


Aren’t you essentially just arguing against age restricting anything here? You can question the efficacy of a ban but reducing everything to just "parent better" is pretty ridiculous. Some kids have shit parents, your solution is just to say fuck them.
 
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But they would find a way so might aswell let them have it and full access to social media, porn and gambling sites . That seems to be the logic for some here.
Well use the filtering that the ISPs and mobile phone companies have that block the sites, you can switch it on and off as the account holder, problem solved until their mate installs a VPN on the phone. Maybe you could put admin rights on the phone to stop them installing things and it needing authorisation, but that would make them look silly in their peer group and they would just look at some elses phone anyway.

Giving your kids, before they are teens, a mobile if you're frightened of what they might access is pretty daft. This is where it requires people to be parents and not mates. The whole, well I can see where they are so its a good thing was not even on the cards 20 or so years ago as phones didnt have GPS modems. Out you went and your parents didnt know where you were until you came home.

Plenty of kids including my own have navigated the digital minefield that is the internet and grown up to be well adjusted. As I said its about having open honest and frank conversations with kids and educating them, ducking topics as they are taboo areas just entices kids more.

To be honest if all of social media was turned off tomorrow I think it would probably be for the betterment of humanity. There are more negatives than positives that seem to come out of it.
 
The only system that seems to work when it comes to verification is the one used by the passport office and banks, where you scan your passport and then using the camera on your phone it correlates your photo with that on the passport along with other checks.

That could work but from the point of view of the social media companies you are creating a significant barrier to access which will damage their business model. Some people are likely to be deterred from signing up and others may not be able to as they don't have the necessary validated ID (passport/driving licence). Look at this site, if everyone had to enter their full name, date of birth, address and photo, there would be a lot less people on it (and a lot less rags and dippers incognito so at least thats a positive) and Ric wouldnt drive a Ferrari.
 
My kids are 10 and 7. I'm dreading social media.

Already the 10 year old is in the minority at School as she doesn't have a phone. One of her mates turned up at ours aged 9 for a sleepover with 2 phones and an iPad.

Part of me feels bad/guilty when others are flashing phones about infront of her and I can see the look on her face.

We will give her a phone when she goes to High School, so we know where she is etc. Then comes all the crap that comes with it.
Completely agree with your opener as mine are 8 and 5.

They won't thank you for it but you can buy one of those 'dummy' phones for pretty cheap (I assume it pretty much allows for phone calls and texts).

And dare I say we find some social media horror stories to terrify them into not being arsed about it.......... :-)
 
Completely agree with your opener as mine are 8 and 5.

They won't thank you for it but you can buy one of those 'dummy' phones for pretty cheap (I assume it pretty much allows for phone calls and texts).

And dare I say we find some social media horror stories to terrify them into not being arsed about it.......... :-)
Yeah cheap basic phone is my preference when the time comes. She's in year 5 so got another 18 months before it's a reality.

She's pretty switched on and gets why we don't allow some things but her friends having it all doesn't help me.
 
On phones now you can use a password to block apps so I a away you can control what kids see on there phone
 
My kids are 10 and 7. I'm dreading social media.

Already the 10 year old is in the minority at School as she doesn't have a phone. One of her mates turned up at ours aged 9 for a sleepover with 2 phones and an iPad.

Part of me feels bad/guilty when others are flashing phones about infront of her and I can see the look on her face.

We will give her a phone when she goes to High School, so we know where she is etc. Then comes all the crap that comes with it.
She will still be nearly 2 years under the legal age to join any UK social network when she starts high school.
 

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