Australia passes social media ban for under 16s

My kids are 10 and 7. I'm dreading social media.

Already the 10 year old is in the minority at School as she doesn't have a phone. One of her mates turned up at ours aged 9 for a sleepover with 2 phones and an iPad.

Part of me feels bad/guilty when others are flashing phones about infront of her and I can see the look on her face.

We will give her a phone when she goes to High School, so we know where she is etc. Then comes all the crap that comes with it.

You can get phones that look like smart phones, are touch screen etc. but don't have internet access and wont allow social media. That's all I'll be allowing my daughter to have when she gets to high school and she has been made aware of that over the last few years along with the reasons why.

https://gabb.com/gabb-phone-4/
 
You can get phones that look like smart phones, are touch screen etc. but don't have internet access and wont allow social media. That's all I'll be allowing my daughter to have when she gets to high school and she has been made aware of that over the last few years along with the reasons why.

https://gabb.com/gabb-phone-4/
Sounds good but just looked and GABB phones don't seem to be available in the UK?
 
There's some negatives in social media, but there's also a load of positives. A ban seems ridiculous.
 
The best thing that can be done for humanity is to ban social media full stop.

True. Billions of people now want their political opposites dead.
But the owners of these apps just say if I don't do it someone else will and they're right.

Some of the things I've read about what the internet generally has facilitated are heartbreaking and make me wish a meteorite would end this place. Facebook moderators end up with PTSD and it's no surprise.
 
There's some negatives in social media, but there's also a load of positives. A ban seems ridiculous.

A ban for children seems ridiculous?

There’s endless videos of beatings, stabbings, Sex/Nude clips, fake staged videos, AI fake videos and more that comes with social media when you scroll through the videos among your favourite Pop band, football team and other interests , You would be ok with your children seeing all that ?
 
A ban for children seems ridiculous?

There’s endless videos of beatings, stabbings, Sex/Nude clips, fake staged videos, AI fake videos and more that comes with social media when you scroll through the videos among your favourite Pop band, football team and other interests , You would be ok with your children seeing all that ?
Yes it seems ridiculous.

Social media helps kids socialise and fit in at school, it helps with homework, it exposes them to news and current affairs.

I don't think there's nearly as much of the other side of things that you make out. And if so, a ban in social media isn't going to stop kids from seeing stuff like that.

Unless you're going to ban the Internet, and books and things like that, kids will get exposed to the seedier side of life.

That's where parents get to be parents.
 
My daughter used to use TikTok for book recommendations. She became an avid reader. In the last five years, she read around 400 books. There are some benefits.
 
Science proved that extensive Social Media consumption does big and irreparable brain damage.
 
A ban for children seems ridiculous?

There’s endless videos of beatings, stabbings, Sex/Nude clips, fake staged videos, AI fake videos and more that comes with social media when you scroll through the videos among your favourite Pop band, football team and other interests , You would be ok with your children seeing all that ?

Define social media. Does it include all instant messaging apps?

If teens want to look at dark stuff online they'll find a way.

I can remember kids in my class in year 7 looking at cut throat murder pics in the IT suite, same kid was caught downloading porn because he'd keep it in a folder.

You have a point about Twitter, but the solution is either stricter moderation or a more appropriate age rating.

Age limit for YouTube is 13.

The age limit for twitter is also 13.

On YouTube, can't see as much as a nipple.

On twitter, well you've already detailed all that.

There's no reason why twitter couldn't use age verification through age matching faces.
 
A ban for children seems ridiculous?

There’s endless videos of beatings, stabbings, Sex/Nude clips, fake staged videos, AI fake videos and more that comes with social media when you scroll through the videos among your favourite Pop band, football team and other interests , You would be ok with your children seeing all that ?
Links ?
 
Tiktok is worst. You can sit for hours watching short content turning you into a zombie. It's even worse than TV because it is available everywhere at any time and the content is sub complex.

It's not about the content itself mostly, it's how how it is presented and available and what that does to kids' brains.
 
Good on the Aussies. Social media is for the most part poison; without factoring in the mental vulnerability of a child.

And before anyone retorts, Blue moon is not conventional social media.
 
Tiktok is worst. You can sit for hours watching short content turning you into a zombie. It's even worse than TV because it is available everywhere at any time and the content is sub complex.

It's not about the content itself mostly, it's how how it is presented and available and what that does to kids' brains.
The other month I was on a work assignment down south with one of my younger colleagues. We were staying in an AirBnb and he left his phone with a tiktok video playing on loop. I almost launched it out of the window. The worst is when you're on public transport and someone selfishly plays video after video at a high volume.

I'm convinced, in years to come, researchers will determine social media is detrimental to cognitive ability.
 
The best thing that can be done for humanity is to ban social media full stop.
I would honestly just make them legally responsible for everything that appears on their site. The most egregious example is actually Pornhub, which was entirely built on the systematic theft of other people's content. But I remember reading a story about how difficult the victims of revenge porn (some underage) found it to get videos of themselves permanently removed from the site. They would report it, it would get removed, only for an identical video to be reuploaded a few days later. As far as I'm concerned, the people in charge of Pornhub are guilty of publishing child porn on an industrial scale and should be in prison, and yet they get away with it by showing that they have 'systems in place' to remove it. These systems are of course the bare minimum, involving as few human staff as possible to maximize profits. There's no requirement to check in advance that the uploader both owns the content and can verify the age of the performers, for example. I'm sure that would have been a basic requirement of anyone selling DVDs back in the day, but put it on a website, and we act like all the rules change.

Make social media companies legally a publisher. Allow people to sue the social media company for things that appear publicly on their site as they would if a newspaper published it. Make owners legally liable for illegal content that appears on their site, And let the social media companies figure out how to make that a business model. If they can't, tough shit.
 
Well if science has done the research then who are we to argue with their findings.
You at least need an actual argument, don't you? These studies are published and reviewed. The brain damage with still developing brains of kids and young adults was measured. You can't just push this away.

You could say kids are kids and will do things like booze, weed and other stuff that will damage their brains as well and you would be right with this. I don't believe we need another thing on top of them, though. And for sure not an unregulated thing.
 
The Danish government is proposing a ban on several social media apps for under-15s, according to the country's prime minister.

"We have unleashed a monster," Mette Frederiksen told Denmark's parliament on Tuesday.


"Mobile phones and social media are stealing our children's childhood."

Research published by Denmark's wellbeing commission earlier this year found 94% of the country's young people had a social media profile before they turned 13 - despite that being the minimum age for many social media platforms.

It also found nine to 14-year-olds were spending an average of three hours a day on TikTok and YouTube.
 

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