Away fans / tourists in home sections

Alex - City Matters said:
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Great letter Alex. However I note you use the term "non-City fans" a couple of times and I think we need to draw a distinction between the "non-City fans" attending CL games.
1) Non-City fans who just want to take in a game are OK if they comply with the usual conventions of behaviour for neutrals; watch the match and don't antagonise the home fans. This includes those who just want to see the away team but not actively support them.
2) Non-City fans who are supporting the away team on the night or actual fans of the away team. Once again it's OK if they behave as many of us have in away grounds all over the country.
3) Non-City fans who actually support the away team and won't keep quiet. This is totally unacceptable and the reason it's illegal to sell tickets in the home areas to away fans.
The biggest problem is group 3, but all groups should be well behind actual City fans when it comes to getting tickets. The club must realise it's far better in the long term to have a thousand real City fans paying £10-15 less at CL games, than to pander to a thousand tourists.
There is 4th group of non-City fans; those who might become City fans having attended the game. These people need to be encouraged unlike the other three groups.
 
Great letter, interesting how the club reacts to the last paragraph. That said at least a hollow platitude is more than the CL final debacle received. I thought their lack of disdain towards the fans after that night couldn’t get any worse, I was wrong.
 
The clubs ultimate aim is to have a theatre audience.
People who will come 2 or 3 times a season and will pay £80 per seat and will visit the club shop and dine in the clubs facilities.
They are half way to achieving that.
They now know they can sell tickets out for most games when the season ticket holders don't purchase their tickets for extra games.
People will rightly say there are empty seats at matches,they don't care if they are getting £80 a seat instead of circa £40/45 from a regular season ticket holder.
The Delotte report shows that we have the 2nd highest income in Football, last season but are gate receipts are £40/50 million pounds behind are rivals, this is a opportunity for them for extra finance and they are not going to let it pass.
The days of the season ticket holders are diminishing, concessions will be next and its not just happening at City.
Loyalty ,once considered the bedrock of everything is now a dirty word to a buisnessman, who only sees pound signs.
We can all moan but there's always someone who will pay ,when we can't.
Atmosphere means nothing to the bean counters, bums on seats paying the maximum price is their aim.
Entertainment in general is now a rich person thing,unfortunately.
 
I don't know how it works but it seems a huge amount of tickets are sold to ticketing sites, where they are sold at double the price or more. Until that stops not sure how the club can stop opposition fans getting in the home end. I have had to buy from their myself at times due to match being sold out on the offical site and unable to get a ticket anywhere else. Usually end up in Colin Bell in those cases. Reducing ticket prices would be a start and changing the ticketing policy.
 
Chappie said:
The clubs ultimate aim is to have a theatre audience.
People who will come 2 or 3 times a season and will pay £80 per seat and will visit the club shop and dine in the clubs facilities.
They are half way to achieving that.
They now know they can sell tickets out for most games when the season ticket holders don't purchase their tickets for extra games.
People will rightly say there are empty seats at matches,they don't care if they are getting £80 a seat instead of circa £40/45 from a regular season ticket holder.
The Delotte report shows that we have the 2nd highest income in Football, last season but are gate receipts are £40/50 million pounds behind are rivals, this is a opportunity for them for extra finance and they are not going to let it pass.
The days of the season ticket holders are diminishing, concessions will be next and it’s not just happening at City.
CCCcLoyalty ,once considered the bedrock of everything is now a dirty word to a buisnessman, who only sees pound signs.
s can all moan but there's always someone who will pay ,when we can't.
Atmosphere means nothing to the bean counters, bums on seats paying the maximum price is their aim.
Entertainment in general is now a rich person thing,unfortunately.
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Football is globalised now and we are one of its leading clubs. It is inevitable that we will attract overseas fans. It’s the price of success as we have seen at MUFC and LFC. But City have got to protect our loyal local fanbase who are increasingly being priced out. They should be able to find a compromise which allows them to grow corporate revenues but maintain a wide pricing structure for tickets.
 
dublinblue12 said:
I don't know how it works but it seems a huge amount of tickets are sold to ticketing sites, where they are sold at double the price or more. Until that stops not sure how the club can stop opposition fans getting in the home end. I have had to buy from their myself at times due to match being sold out on the offical site and unable to get a ticket anywhere else. Usually end up in Colin Bell in those cases. Reducing ticket prices would be a start and changing the ticketing policy.
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The club itself might, first and foremost, stop selling tickets to online ticket resellers. At Manchester City, the biggest tout is... Manchester City.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
Football is globalised now and we are one of its leading clubs. It is inevitable that we will attract overseas fans. It’s the price of success as we have seen at MUFC and LFC. But City have got to protect our loyal local fanbase who are increasingly being priced out. They should be able to find a compromise which allows them to grow corporate revenues but maintain a wide pricing structure for tickets.
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But do they want too ?
 
Chappie said:
But do they want too ?
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That’s the key question. City are very different to United. They have always been the community club in Manchester and we still draw most of our local support from the less affluent parts of the city. It is an important part of our identity. Lots of giant clubs across the world have managed to keep their roots. I hope the club does its best to protect our history.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
That’s the key question. City are very different to United. They have always been the community club in Manchester and we still draw most of our local support from the less affluent parts of the city. It is an important part of our identity. Lots of giant clubs across the world have managed to keep their roots. I hope the club does its best to protect our history.
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They used to be very different but now they are becoming very similar.
 
Chappie said:
But do they want too ?
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I think we have to start making it unpleasant for the likes of the Barca / Anfield 8 and the Ipswich / Mallorca 8. At the moment it just seems to be our home fans who are risking their / our season cards / memberships by objecting to liberty takers.

I thought Alex’s letter was great. I don’t know why City Matters is having more reps for ethnic groups though. Surely we are all Blues together.

If ticket prices were more affordable there would be more opportunities for homegrown / local fans to go to games as well as growing the wider fan base. The haircut video was a new low. That said, the Blues who video’d Asian City fans to mock them by sharing on social media have outed themselves as racists IMHO.

It should all Blues in this together. City admin should stop selling the tickets to touting sites. There’s Blues on here who acquiesce with City clamping down on face value pages that help lots more working class fans get into the games. Shame on them.
 
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Tim of the Oak said:
I think we have to start making it unpleasant for the likes of the Barca / Anfield 8 and the Ipswich / Mallorca 8. At the moment it just seems to be our home fans who are risking their / our season cards / memberships by objecting to liberty takers.

I thought Alex’s letter was great. I don’t know why Ciry Matters is having more reps for ethnic groups though. Surely we are all Blues together.

If ticket prices were more affordable there would be more opportunities for homegrown / local fans to go to games as well as growing the wider fan base. The haircut video was a new low. That said, the Blues who video’d Asian City fans to mock them by sharing on social media habe outed themselves as racists IMHO.

It should all Blues in this together. City admin should stop selling the tickets to touting sites. There’s Blues on here who acquiesce with City clamping down on face value pages that help lots more working class fans get into the games. Shame on them.
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Had a big chinese lad next to us recently and he loved joining in and was trying his best to sing.

Few years time he'll be leading the Chinese Mayne Line Cool cat Guvnors
 
Chappie said:
They used to be very different but now they are becoming very similar.
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It’s true but our support has grown in East Manchester since we moved grounds. These areas have a lot of new residents and there is a huge following for City in the schools for starters. We own Manchester City-centre as well. The CL nights are different, especially against the Hollywood teams like Real. There is great potential in tapping in to that local support. Manchester itself is rapidly growing,
 
I've heard a few around me suggest they will be binning the CL cup scheme next season. Basically, fed up of being surrounded by tourists - either partisan or passive. Most you can have a chat and everything is fine.
I've seen it get a bit spiky at times, but it properly kicked off behind me with a regular at FT, who quite clearly had had enough with one RM celebrating. He's been going for as long as i know and comes with his kids for the PL games. Never seen this kind of reaction from him, ever.
This is what it's coming to. Don't know if the club's ticketing policy is deliberate, but simething needs to be done. It's a case of when, not if, someone is going to get seriously hurt.
 
mancityvstoke said:
Had a big chinese lad next to us recently and he loved joining in and was trying his best to sing.

Few years time he'll be leading the Chinese Mayne Line Cool cat Guvnors
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I have found the Chinese City fans to be very knowledgable about the club. There is a group of students in Preston who are often on my train. There is also a huge long-standing Chinese community in Manchester. We have also got big support in the Polish community.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
I have found the Chinese City fans to be very knowledgable about the club. There is a group of students in Preston who are often on my train. There is also a huge long-standing Chinese community in Manchester. We have also got big support in the Polish community.
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When we are all dead and gone these are the clubs future support.

Everybody has to pull together.

Maybe in another generation when other lads have come to take our place.



We will carry on forevermore. ;)

(just dump the phone lights and half and half scarves kids)
 
Stockton Heath Blue said:
I've heard a few around me suggest they will be binning the CL cup scheme next season. Basically, fed up of being surrounded by tourists - either partisan or passive. Most you can have a chat and everything is fine.
I've seen it get a bit spiky at times, but it properly kicked off behind me with a regular at FT, who quite clearly had had enough with one RM celebrating. He's been going for as long as i know and comes with his kids for the PL games. Never seen this kind of reaction from him, ever.
This is what it's coming to. Don't know if the club's ticketing policy is deliberate, but simething needs to be done. It's a case of when, not if, someone is going to get seriously hurt.
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Exact same situation near me. Many ST don't attend now. Full of Madrid fans the other night and very spiky towards the end. We regularly hear how the club want us fans to get behind the team on certain nights. How can we do that if the loyal fans are priced out?
 
Nothing against fans from Asia and other places around the world, but they come here not only for the great team we have, but to sample the pl atmosphere. I don't doubt that they are every big a fan as I am, but when groups of local fans are being put off attending due to costs and availability of tickets, something gets lost on a matchday and the club needs to address it now , or else it will become like rugby internationals, lacking edge and more of a social event.
 
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