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jrb said:
Tourists, day trippers, football fans, new City fans with loads of money, and more school kids.

The atmosphere at the Etihad will be rocking with high pitch Children's voices shouting.... " "Come on City!"
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Hopefully, they are the future

I'm mid to late 50's and probably younger than a lot of our hard-core support.

I honestly can't be arsed singing and jumping about anymore, there to watch the game, go mad when we score and gripe when we don’t.

The demographic of the average PL fan has changed and younger fans don't go in numbers as they did. Those that do are probably with their legacy fan parents.

The PL need to wake up because in 25 years there will be no one going through the turnstiles when todays 50+ year old fans stop going!
 
ysmsa said:
The PL need to wake up because in 25 years there will be no one going through the turnstiles when todays 50+ year old fans stop going!
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Unfortunately they won't, they're only interested in the here and now, how much money they bank before someone else takes over.

They couldn't give a shit about the state they leave in English football in when they retire.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
I don’t disagree with any of the points being made but if we all binned off the Champs League, who would be there to support the team.

I think the excessive pricing for the Inter game is doing lasting damage
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A Shit season and a fall off in crowds is the only message they will understand, i remember when we played Villa in the cup 2011, i think 25000 were in attendance, the club sent stewards up to us in CB3 to try and get us to sit in the North stand so it looked better on the tv. The biggest problem you have is when execs who earn a million pounds a year they have no concept of cost, they will look at tickets at 72/82/92 quid as reasonable, and if you actually got them to reduce them, it wouldn't be anything realistic. City used to be a club that looked after the fans, now it looks for new fans, and if you don't like it, so what, they don't care
 
Surely the execs looked at the crowd the other night and thought about the bad image this projects. Irrespective of spreadsheets and revenue data, it looks piss poor. If you’re trying to make a ticket to City a valuable commodity, having thousands of unsold seats isn’t going to do it.
 
ysmsa said:
The PL need to wake up because in 25 years there will be no one going through the turnstiles when todays 50+ year old fans stop going!
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completely agree with this point. You only have to look at our match going crowd. Other than in ss1 there are barely any groups of young people going to games.
I’m not talking teenagers either, I’m talking people aged 18-35.

The only time you see that is for cup games now. It’s mainly people aged 50 and over. As you say a lot of younger fans are legacy fans going with their parents. When they stop going who’s going to replace them?

There’s no long term thinking at all.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
completely agree with this point. You only have to look at our match going crowd. Other than in ss1 there are barely any groups of young people going to games.
I’m not talking teenagers either, I’m talking people aged 18-35.

The only time you see that is for cup games now. It’s mainly people aged 50 and over. As you say a lot of younger fans are legacy fans going with their parents. When they stop going who’s going to replace them?

There’s no long term thinking at all.
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Your final paragraph is diametricly opposite to the the cultural thinking in Abu Dhabi and the UAE.

There is a strange disconnect in place which i dont really understand.

Most odd.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
I don’t disagree with any of the points being made but if we all binned off the Champs League, who would be there to support the team.

I think the excessive pricing for the Inter game is doing lasting damage
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Inter was the first game and the club pushed it as a repeat of Istanbul. It was the glamour home game and priced accordingly. But the club should have realised the other three games needed to be much cheaper and announced the prices at the same time.
 
fathellensbellend said:
A Shit season and a fall off in crowds is the only message they will understand, i remember when we played Villa in the cup 2011, i think 25000 were in attendance, the club sent stewards up to us in CB3 to try and get us to sit in the North stand so it looked better on the tv. The biggest problem you have is when execs who earn a million pounds a year they have no concept of cost, they will look at tickets at 72/82/92 quid as reasonable, and if you actually got them to reduce them, it wouldn't be anything realistic. City used to be a club that looked after the fans, now it looks for new fans, and if you don't like it, so what, they don't care
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It's about time the fans did something
We need a proper protest.
A walk out of the ground after 70 minutes if that what the cost is that week.
Not just city but all fans.
Look at the rises they have introduced at the swamp.
All real football fans need to come together
 
Invisible Man's Bandage said:
From a commercial perspective it is better to have the stadium only 90% full at high prices rather than full but with prices 20% lower for instance.
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Not long term. I'm sure we all got the bug standing on the Kippax as kids, and it stays with you. Would everyone be going now, if they hadn't got the bug then?

Where's the next generation of supporters coming from if they can't afford to get into the games?

Make no mistake, a season or two of being wank and the day trippers won't be seen for dust, who picks up the slack then?
 
The Stockport Iniesta said:
Not long term. I'm sure we all got the bug standing on the Kippax as kids, and it stays with you. Would everyone be going now, if they hadn't got the bug then?

Where's the next generation of supporters coming from if they can't afford to get into the games?

Make no mistake, a season or two of being wank and the day trippers won't be seen for dust, who picks up the slack then?
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I've just said the same .
1985 me dad took me n me mate in that little bit between the north stand and main stand.
We used to say take us in the Kippax.
Looking at the Kippax from there it was like a mythical beast.
Eventually he took us .
On the little wall nearest the north stand.
Amazing.
Just amazed.
As we got older we moved further and further towards the away end .
Till we stood above the tunnel where I met mates I still have today.
Happy times.
But sad football and city has got to the state it's in now.
I used to feel connected to city.
I don't now.
They done care if I don't go any more .
I'll be replaced by a foreign tourist with and Instagram account
 
Betterdeedthan red said:
I've just said the same .
1985 me dad took me n me mate in that little bit between the north stand and main stand.
We used to say take us in the Kippax.
Looking at the Kippax from there it was like a mythical beast.
Eventually he took us .
On the little wall nearest the north stand.
Amazing.
Just amazed.
As we got older we moved further and further towards the away end .
Till we stood above the tunnel where I met mates I still have today.
Happy times.
But sad football and city has got to the state it's in now.
I used to feel connected to city.
I don't now.
They done care if I don't go any more .
I'll be replaced by a foreign tourist with and Instagram account
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Brilliantly put, very much mirrors my own experience. Sitting in the North Stand with my dad, then allowed onto the Kippax with my mates aged 12. First season ticket in the Kippax aged 13.

Kids can't do that anymore, I find it really sad but what do I know.
 
The Stockport Iniesta said:
Not long term. I'm sure we all got the bug standing on the Kippax as kids, and it stays with you. Would everyone be going now, if they hadn't got the bug then?

Where's the next generation of supporters coming from if they can't afford to get into the games?

Make no mistake, a season or two of being wank and the day trippers won't be seen for dust, who picks up the slack then?
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It wasn’t that long ago that the club had junior season tickets 95 quid all around the stadium, because we were struggling to fill the place, why does success completely alter the dynamic. Once we struggle the first people the club target are the ones they have lost and alienated, the ones who weren’t wanted when we were winning because they were not wealthy enough. I would have more empathy with the club if gate receipts were pivotal in our existence but they only make up approximately 10% of our turnover.
 
fathellensbellend said:
It wasn’t that long ago that the club had junior season tickets 95 quid all around the stadium, because we were struggling to fill the place, why does success completely alter the dynamic. Once we struggle the first people the club target are the ones they have lost and alienated, the ones who weren’t wanted when we were winning because they were not wealthy enough. I would have more empathy with the club if gate receipts were pivotal in our existence but they only make up approximately 10% of our turnover.
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The thing is when you leave though choice, it's very rare you go back apart from fleeting visits.

Football itself, the club, the crowd will look very different in a few years.

The golden goose, not just at City is on the wain and we're running headlong into it.
 
Very true my mate had a season ticket for 20 years, watched all the crap home and away, the tipping point, when they wouldn't allow his 5 year old a bottle top, deemed a security risk. He was the epitome of a family man, he said I don't need this shite, been back 4 times in 7 years, City lost a supporter and the next generation just like that, he will never return on a regular basis
 
Betterdeedthan red said:
It's about time the fans did something
We need a proper protest.
A walk out of the ground after 70 minutes if that what the cost is that week.
Not just city but all fans.
Look at the rises they have introduced at the swamp.
All real football fans need to come together
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Do you really think that would have an affect?

We've mocked United fans on here for wearing yellow and green scarves, saying the Glazers wouldn't give a fuck what colour scarves they wear. Do you honestly think executives would bat an eyelid if everyone pays their money and then leaves early?
 
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