Away fans / tourists in home sections

[Dubai Blue]

When Haaland scored the penalty last night and ran off celebrating you could see the South Stand going bonkers. Then he got to the CB stand and it looked like an away end. Barely anyone giving the slightest fuck that City had just taken the lead.

 

[mcfcmatt]

Well the club should get onto metro then to stop them , ffs we give metrolink enough trade...and what about the traders all around the ground even on Joe Mercer Way.

You can’t knock someone trying to make a living
It’s not just our Club that traders sell half and half scarves it’s the whole of the PL
Yes they do look ridiculous to most of us but people buy them.

We can’t dictate that people can’t have them.

 

[Bluephoria]

Comp

Completely agree that we have all sat in the "home" end at away games, behaving respectfully.
There's a couple of points I'd like to raise :-

Why were the tourist Real Madrid fans allowed to sit in designated home seats, when they didn't sell out their allocation ?

Why don't City place large, multi lingual signs stating that "away" fans will be instantly rejected from the ground if found in a designated home seat area ?

Two family members went last night and constantly asked Stewards to erect Real Madrid fans near them, but were ignored.

City are a billion-pound business that scrimp on security when they obviously know where some Agency tickets will end-up...

I'm not convinced there is a shortage of security. I sit in 130 and several of the Madrid supporters in that area were ejected. Some were asked politely and did not move and then 6 or 7 people came down and moved them out.

For the stewards, its a nightmare. They cannot remove peole who have a valid ticket unless they have sufficient justification. Obviously jumping up and cheering a Madrid goal will do, but I suspect merely speaking Spanish will not.

I do agree that 50/50 scarves are often a tell. I have been on my way in through the gates and seen people in the kit for the opposing team being allowed in.

One steward I have spokent to in the past thinks the issue stems from people having multiple memberships and selling the tickets on. Whether they get to third party sites via that route or others, I do not know. I suspect the club has a fair idea but may not want to make this information public. I heard last night that one of the 'visitors' paid £300 for their ticket though I don't know how or where it was from. Clearly the club has the means of tracking the ticket, if the seat is identified as being used by a Madrid supporter .

So long as we continue in the CL it seems likely this will continue as SC holders relinquish cup schemes to mitigate the cost rises against low wage rises.

 

[Mifred]

Comp

Completely agree that we have all sat in the "home" end at away games, behaving respectfully.
There's a couple of points I'd like to raise :-

Why were the tourist Real Madrid fans allowed to sit in designated home seats, when they didn't sell out their allocation ?

Why don't City place large, multi lingual signs stating that "away" fans will be instantly rejected from the ground if found in a designated home seat area ?

Two family members went last night and constantly asked Stewards to erect Real Madrid fans near them, but were ignored.

City are a billion-pound business that scrimp on security when they obviously know where some Agency tickets will end-up...

Must be stiff opposition

 

[Eccles Blue]

When Haaland scored the penalty last night and ran off celebrating you could see the South Stand going bonkers. Then he got to the CB stand and it looked like an away end. Barely anyone giving the slightest fuck that City had just taken the lead.

Well I was in the CB stand and I was the only one not standing (I can’t) but by gum I was screaming support with everyone else.
It was fairly noisy in CB.

 

[jrb]

Are you suggesting these fine gentlemen would feel it sufficient to ask you kindly to relocate, if it were not too much trouble.

They would definitely give you a helping hand.

 

[Eccles Blue]

When the RM fans were ejected from near where we were sitting the stewards were taking the seat and row numbers.
Maybe for the club to follow up. Mind you with the number of 200 (from around the stadium) we’d probably need to employ extra staff to trace where they all came from!!

 

[Citi-leaks]

When Haaland scored the penalty last night and ran off celebrating you could see the South Stand going bonkers. Then he got to the CB stand and it looked like an away end. Barely anyone giving the slightest fuck that City had just taken the lead.

Saw that. It was proper weird. Like the light round of applause that you would give the players at the end of a match. Some didn't even stand up out of their seats.

Where the fuck did they all come from, because they weren't local or from this country. And how did they all get tickets for the same area?

 

[WestGorton]

Normally it's not too bad even in the Champions League. Tourists yes, but unaffiliated. It's because we play Real Madrid every bloody year and they are the biggest club in the world. I would wager hardly anyone who got tickets in our areas was Spanish. I saw one get filled in and he looked like Mongolian/Tibetan or from that part of the world. He was blatantly goading people. Completely oblivious to any normal etiquette anywhere never mind at a football match.

 

[Mike S]

Comp

Completely agree that we have all sat in the "home" end at away games, behaving respectfully.
There's a couple of points I'd like to raise :-

Why were the tourist Real Madrid fans allowed to sit in designated home seats, when they didn't sell out their allocation ?

Why don't City place large, multi lingual signs stating that "away" fans will be instantly rejected from the ground if found in a designated home seat area ?

Two family members went last night and constantly asked Stewards to erect Real Madrid fans near them, but were ignored.

City are a billion-pound business that scrimp on security when they obviously know where some Agency tickets will end-up...

Did it stiffen the resolve of your two family members ?

 

[Chappie]

Saw that. It was proper weird. Like the light round of applause that you would give the players at the end of a match. Some didn't even stand up out of their seats.

Where the fuck did they all come from, because they weren't local or from this country. And how did they all get tickets for the same area?

Most of us know the answer to this question and have done for many years.
But we still have loads of people who come on here saying that they come from season ticket holders ,loyalty point holders or supporters club members .
We have the same problem with away matches.
They never come up with a plausible answer,when you ask how come all these people are sat next to each other and how come there all in the same block and in row after row
We all need to open our eyes and acknowledge that they can only be sourced from 1 outlet originally and that is Manchester City Football Club.
I'm sure the ticket compliance manager will be investigating this,in the same way he deals with a sick City fan giving his Bratislava ticket to one of his friends.
But as the saying goes, "he will turn a blind eye to it " as it would open a massive can of worms.

 

[adopted_manc]

Well I was in the CB stand and I was the only one not standing (I can’t) but by gum I was screaming support with everyone else.
It was fairly noisy in CB.

Likewise. I was in 230 (next to real Madrid VIP fans) and it was fairly vocal. Better than in other CL games.

 

[Dubai Blue]

Well I was in the CB stand and I was the only one not standing (I can’t) but by gum I was screaming support with everyone else.
It was fairly noisy in CB.

Just to clarify, I'm not castigating the entire CB stand here, just the section you could see on TV as Haaland was celebrating. It was surreal as the majority clearly weren't City fans.

 

[.db.]

The regular fans could always buy the tickets in the first place then we wouldn't have all these tourists in the ground !!!

Every time the club put Season Ticket prices up, more fans give up their Season Tickets. Then, City aren’t releasing new Season Tickets, so every year fewer proper City fans are part of the attendances.

Every time the club put Season Tickets prices up, there are more fans who keep their Season Ticket but who come out of a Cup Scheme, a few Cup Schemes or all the Cup Schemes to take money back.

There’ve been 13 price rises in 15 years, some as high as 12% when inflation was at 1%.

The more people come out of the Cup Schemes, the less people still in them enjoy the Cup games due to not enjoying being part of the crowd they’re in. So, the next season they too come out of the Cup Schemes.

Last night was in the Gutter Round of the CL. It wasn’t even the Ro16. The Gutter Round are games that have never existed before and we had two weeks’ notice to find £52.50 for it, after just having paid £35 for Brugge in the League Phase which was £10 more expensive than any Group Stage game in the previous two CL campaigns to this one. Brugge itself was also a game we’ve never had to pay for before since it was the 4th home game (when there’d only ever been 3 before).
Therefore, when Madrid prices came out, even fans in the Cup Schemes decided to come out of the Cup Scheme or relist their ticket.

This isn’t Season Ticket holders fault. It is solely the club’s greed over many years that is at fault.

City fans without Season Tickets are looking at the prices of games, they’re looking at £52.50 for Madrid or £75 for Newcastle. They can’t afford both and Newcastle is on a Saturday at 3pm so it’s a no brainer which one they’re going to choose.

If both were £35, they’d likely go to both.

I went last night because I could afford it. But I did not enjoy being part of that crowd last night. It wasn’t a City crowd. I felt like an imposter in my own stadium. It was that bad that a bit of my love for football and City died last night and I too am now thinking that I’m never going to enter the CL Cup Scheme again. I even think the atmosphere from the regulars that did attend last night was good, but the number of non-City fans there last night was an all-time high, and I didn’t like it: I would estimate that 30% of those in attendance last night weren’t City fans, 30% were City tourists and 40% were City fans.

 

[fathellensbellend]

Every time the club put Season Ticket prices up, more fans give up their Season Tickets. Then, City aren’t releasing new Season Tickets, so every year fewer proper City fans are part of the attendances.

Every time the club put Season Tickets prices up, there are more fans who keep their Season Ticket but who come out of a Cup Scheme, a few Cup Schemes or all the Cup Schemes to take money back.

There’ve been 13 price rises in 15 years, some as high as 12% when inflation was at 1%.

The more people come out of the Cup Schemes, the less people still in them enjoy the Cup games due to not enjoying being part of the crowd they’re in. So, the next season they too come out of the Cup Schemes.

Last night was in the Gutter Round of the CL. It wasn’t even the Ro16. The Gutter Round are games that have never existed before and we had two weeks’ notice to find £52.50 for it, after just having paid £35 for Brugge in the League Phase was £10 more expensive than any Group Stage game in the previous two CL campaigns to this one. Brugge itself was also a game we’ve never had to pay for before since it was the 4th home game (when there’d only ever been 3 before).
Therefore, when Madrid prices came out, even fans in the Cup Schemes decided to come out of the Cup Scheme or relist their ticket.

This isn’t Season Ticket holders fault. It is solely the club’s greed over many years that is at fault.

City fans without Season Tickets are looking at the prices of games, they’re looking at £52.50 for Madrid or £75 for Newcastle. They can’t afford both and Newcastle is on a Saturday at 3pm so it’s a no brainer which one they’re going to choose.

If both were £35, they’d likely go to both.

I went last night because I could afford it. But I absolutely hated being part of that crowd last night. It wasn’t a City crowd. I felt like an imposter in my own stadium. It was that bad that a bit of my love for football and City died last night and I too am now thinking that I’m never going to enter the CL Cup Scheme again.

exactly

 

[bluestevei]

When the RM fans were ejected from near where we were sitting the stewards were taking the seat and row numbers.
Maybe for the club to follow up. Mind you with the number of 200 (from around the stadium) we’d probably need to employ extra staff to trace where they all came from!!

Could we not use the people who scruffy Jim is making redundant

 

[gkmcfc]

It’s all based on the promises of increasing matchday revenues. We’re still the poor relation amongst the other top clubs in the league and in Europe. Unfortunately the requirement to meet PSR and other wanky rules means we won’t see an end to this any time soon. City have been top drawer for over a decade now and sadly hasn’t seized the chance to make ALL games accessible which is a shame.

 

[Marvin.]

Every time the club put Season Ticket prices up, more fans give up their Season Tickets. Then, City aren’t releasing new Season Tickets, so every year fewer proper City fans are part of the attendances.

Every time the club put Season Tickets prices up, there are more fans who keep their Season Ticket but who come out of a Cup Scheme, a few Cup Schemes or all the Cup Schemes to take money back.

There’ve been 13 price rises in 15 years, some as high as 12% when inflation was at 1%.

The more people come out of the Cup Schemes, the less people still in them enjoy the Cup games due to not enjoying being part of the crowd they’re in. So, the next season they too come out of the Cup Schemes.

Last night was in the Gutter Round of the CL. It wasn’t even the Ro16. The Gutter Round are games that have never existed before and we had two weeks’ notice to find £52.50 for it, after just having paid £35 for Brugge in the League Phase which was £10 more expensive than any Group Stage game in the previous two CL campaigns to this one. Brugge itself was also a game we’ve never had to pay for before since it was the 4th home game (when there’d only ever been 3 before).
Therefore, when Madrid prices came out, even fans in the Cup Schemes decided to come out of the Cup Scheme or relist their ticket.

This isn’t Season Ticket holders fault. It is solely the club’s greed over many years that is at fault.

City fans without Season Tickets are looking at the prices of games, they’re looking at £52.50 for Madrid or £75 for Newcastle. They can’t afford both and Newcastle is on a Saturday at 3pm so it’s a no brainer which one they’re going to choose.

If both were £35, they’d likely go to both.

I went last night because I could afford it. But I did not enjoy being part of that crowd last night. It wasn’t a City crowd. I felt like an imposter in my own stadium. It was that bad that a bit of my love for football and City died last night and I too am now thinking that I’m never going to enter the CL Cup Scheme again. I even think the atmosphere from the regulars that did attend last night was good, but the number of non-City fans there last night was an all-time high, and I didn’t like it: I would estimate that 30% of those in attendance last night weren’t City fans, 30% were City tourists and 40% were City fans.

How have you worked out that of the crowd 40% were City fans, 30% weren't City fans, and 30% were City tourists? How do you define each category, and how did you allocate each fan to each category?

 

[Citi-leaks]

Most of us know the answer to this question and have done for many years.
But we still have loads of people who come on here saying that they come from season ticket holders ,loyalty point holders or supporters club members .
We have the same problem with away matches.
They never come up with a plausible answer,when you ask how come all these people are sat next to each other and how come there all in the same block and in row after row
We all need to open our eyes and acknowledge that they can only be sourced from 1 outlet originally and that is Manchester City Football Club.
I'm sure the ticket compliance manager will be investigating this,in the same way he deals with a sick City fan giving his Bratislava ticket to one of his friends.
But as the saying goes, will turn a blind eye to it as it would open a massive can of worms.

Watch the footage back from 3mins 29 and look at this section in yellow. There's about 50 actual City fans in there celebrating. And about 1500 tourists standing still. There is no way that that many people could get a whole section without the club being involved.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

I was close to a couple of potential flash points with Madrid fans that included Madrid fans getting ejected (first incident) and a Madrid fan goading City fans at the final whistle from the corporate seats.