Away fans / tourists in home sections

paulchapo said:
Once you lose the habit and buzz for attending games it's gone forever.
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Sad but true.
Gave it up after the CL win as the expense and ball ache of it was just too much.
Can honestly say I don't miss it - I don't miss having to set aside an entire day to attend 90 minutes that was costing me over £2k just for our home games.
I do kinda miss the blokes/lasses in 101 as they were a great laugh - but that's about it
 
My issue is ticket availability and price for City fans. Stop declaring fake sell-outs months beforehand to drive people to hospitality and agency sales. I hate the dilution of our vocal support, the casual disinterested observers make no noise. Premier League grounds are becoming like a football DisneyLand, but the reason people are attracted to it is slowly being diluted by the sheer numbers of people coming.

Like great European cities Barcelona, Florence, Rome, Amsterdam, Berlin, Venice, they were all great destinations, charming, cultural, beautiful, but popularity has destroyed them, thousands of idiots wandering around with phones in the air, recording themsleves. The thing they went to see is diminished by their presence. Local shops, facilities and family restruarants are stripped out, you have quick-buck merchants selling overpriced tat and expensive crap food to mobs of tourists. The heart and soul has been ripped out, locals no longer recognise the things they once loved.

English Football is getting there. The fan experience at Bundesliga, even Eredivise is much better, because the tourists haven't ruined it. Like second tier destination cities, Bilbao, Malaga, Palermo, not mass-touristed yet, better vibes, more real, less idiots.
We don't deny people the opportunity to come to a game, but it feels like overtourism at the moment. Real Madrid at home, lots of regulars looking around and thinking "what is this?" Like residents in cities which have become overrun and unrecognisable. It's not gonna stop. 7,000 more next season, this will get worse.

Wearing other teams jerseys at City games.... don't hugely care if it's from a different league (as long as it's not a European competitor Madrid, Barca, Bayern etc), and we're not playing the team jersey. Like River Plate, Wolfsburg, Genoa, whoever, don't care. I could go to Leverkusen wearing a Stockport County Jersey and no one cares, but I wouldn't wear Dortmund or Bayern, that just cop-on and respect.

50/50 scarves, it's just a souvenier, the teams, the colours, the date. I find it hard to get too excited about it meaning "opposition colours are in our end". They're a bit crap, but not the real problem.
 
Citizen of Legoland said:
Why don’t City sell their own scarves for matches like the half-n-halfers do? Just have a normal City scarf with the date of the game and the name of the opponent printed on it. They could sell shirts printed with the details on too, like an FA Cup final memorabilia shirt.

They’re missing out on a massive income stream here. £25 scarf, £150 shirt in a nice box.
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There as to be a reason ferran or the revenue team haven't already done that.
They don't miss a trick.
 
Seeing this garbage is heartbreaking even as a fan from across the pond

Part of the reason I got into English football in the first place is the over-the-top passion fans over your way have for the game and their clubs, there's nothing like it here in the US even for our biggest sports (and I specifically became a City fan back when we were a mid-table side as I saw them as the anthesis of United, which had been a club for foreign gloryhunters for a long time)

I've been to a few City matches home and away but I'm very far away from being a "tourist," I'm a passionate fan who knows how to act at matches because I have a brain and it's pretty easy to figure out what to do and not do if attending a match - it's 2025 and you can find out lots of what you need to know about simple matchday etiquette just by spending a few hours online in places like Bluemoon and others

It's unbelievably gross seeing this continued NBA-ification of English football. Fans and wannabe influencers who only care about the spectacle or following a certain player having zero clue what the game means to local fans who have been attending for decades or even know the first thing about Manchester (or Liverpool, or London for that matter) other than "that's where Big Brand FC play"

If the club want money from tourists that badly, there needs to be one "tourist section" in the upper corner somewhere where they can wear their silly half-and-half scaves and take selfies to their heart's content, and leave actual passionate supporters alone

I think the most insane thing is that this is in the name of profits when the club surely gets most of their money from TV deals and sponsor deals rather than matchday gate revenue. You can't tell me that the impact on the club's bottom line from lowering ticket prices and selling a few less replica shirts in the club shop wouldn't be minimal

I'm thrilled with the club's success but what's going on with the matchday atmosphere as a byproduct of that success is disgusting and what's worse is the club could clearly clamp down on it if they chose to

Even on TV here I could hear how subdued it seemed and that it was only partially because of how the match was going
 
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marco said:
why would he spend in excess of £70 for a match ticket when he supports Arsenal,would any of us realy have any interest in a Liverpool v Arsenal fixture except for looking at flashscores if they game had a bearing on our position in the table
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How do you know who (if anyone) he supports? Sure he's wearing an Arsenal shirt but that could merely be a souvenir of his visit to the Emirates.
Has anyone from City Matters (if they still exist?) took this issue up with the club?
 
It will only get worse when the new North Stand opens, no doubt they will make tempting offers to SC holders in the CB and ES to swap to the new seats just like they did when the SS was extended, then hey presto! Another huge batch of seats to flog to Half n halfers. If new reasonably priced SCs aren’t made available for the new seats in the NS, the gig is up, we are a proper tourist club.
 
shnaghaicityfish said:
Errrm this is not my recollection of 50yrs ago! Me and mates went to Anfield Boxing Day 1974 (age 14). Anfield Road end was carnage, City were shit (4 down at half time I think but could be wrong as I was concentrating on staying alive). 2 mates left at HT, one was cornered, battered to a pulp and hospitalised for a week. I managed to get back to Lime Street but then me and about 20 Blues were chased to a small hotel where we were barricaded in til Merseyside’s finest sent 2 policewomen in a mini to hold off the baying mob. Managed to get in the back gate of Lime Street to be met by a Blue with a compass (the drawing circle kind) embedded in his back. Made the train which lost most of its windows in the first 10 minutes. Nobody had a laugh.
For some reason I’ve never really like those Scouse scamps since (My prejudice obviously, not their fault)
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exactly what happened at Liverpool and Everton back then....feral tramps.
 
Honestly most of us would be shocked how busy the Etihad is from 10am for an afternoon game.
I've done it once, it didn't feel City, it didn't feel like Manchester, it didn't feel like home, I felt like I didn't belong. Someone had ripped my heart out. Everything I loved about our club had gone, we are just the same as any other club. Sold our soul for the money

The matchday experience for alot of tourists starts early with pre match stadium tours, aren't the club starting rooftop tour next season ?

The City shop is rammed all day.
 
paulchapo said:
I know nothing about these but if they're genuinely selling only to City fans it looks like the club are clamping down on such. Of course it could mean touts are buying them and reselling them on leading to the scenes witnessed yesterday.

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This is worse than what happened in the ground for me yesterday.

Can see the direction the clubs going and it’s akin to them in Trafford. Forcing you to sell back to the club rather than being able to transfer is coming. Don’t get me wrong there’s an element of apathetic season ticket holders who buy to sell 70% of the games on, but by suspending those passing on tickets to other blues at a lower price than the club would is a disgrace.
 
Greenandblue said:
My issue is ticket availability and price for City fans. Stop declaring fake sell-outs months beforehand to drive people to hospitality and agency sales. I hate the dilution of our vocal support, the casual disinterested observers make no noise. Premier League grounds are becoming like a football DisneyLand, but the reason people are attracted to it is slowly being diluted by the sheer numbers of people coming.

Like great European cities Barcelona, Florence, Rome, Amsterdam, Berlin, Venice, they were all great destinations, charming, cultural, beautiful, but popularity has destroyed them, thousands of idiots wandering around with phones in the air, recording themsleves. The thing they went to see is diminished by their presence. Local shops, facilities and family restruarants are stripped out, you have quick-buck merchants selling overpriced tat and expensive crap food to mobs of tourists. The heart and soul has been ripped out, locals no longer recognise the things they once loved.

English Football is getting there. The fan experience at Bundesliga, even Eredivise is much better, because the tourists haven't ruined it. Like second tier destination cities, Bilbao, Malaga, Palermo, not mass-touristed yet, better vibes, more real, less idiots.
We don't deny people the opportunity to come to a game, but it feels like overtourism at the moment. Real Madrid at home, lots of regulars looking around and thinking "what is this?" Like residents in cities which have become overrun and unrecognisable. It's not gonna stop. 7,000 more next season, this will get worse.

Wearing other teams jerseys at City games.... don't hugely care if it's from a different league (as long as it's not a European competitor Madrid, Barca, Bayern etc), and we're not playing the team jersey. Like River Plate, Wolfsburg, Genoa, whoever, don't care. I could go to Leverkusen wearing a Stockport County Jersey and no one cares, but I wouldn't wear Dortmund or Bayern, that just cop-on and respect.

50/50 scarves, it's just a souvenier, the teams, the colours, the date. I find it hard to get too excited about it meaning "opposition colours are in our end". They're a bit crap, but not the real problem.
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I agree with everything you said. Except for H&H scarves. If I see a father with a kid, it's a souvenir, possibly of their first time at the stadium.

Teenagers and grown-ups ... it's just a way of masking they're not City fans. See yesterday and RM.
 
pride in battle said:
Our fans are to blame as well, season ticket holders picking and choosing games
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Yep, there are a few regulars that sit near me , used to go to 90% of the games

I think I’ve only seen them four or five times this season

This is the problem , we must have around 40k season ticket holders but a lot must be selling on their tickets

The club aren’t stupid , this is why the flexi ticket exists. My ticket is £760 per season for 19 games. The club can sell a flexi for £150 plus the cost of 19 games @ £38 each , if I don’t turn up for 9 of those games , they can sell for £60 a game on average

£150 + 10x£38 + 9x60 =£1070

That’s a 40% uplift on income from the same seat

I doubt we will ever see standard season tickets ever again

My Nephew started coming this season with us, he’s on a flexi ticket , where the rest of us are on a standard season ticket - I bet he’ll be on a flexi for life he he keeps on going
 
AJS1961 said:
On the back of threads re whole rows of non City fans attending games................Sat in my usual seat in the Colin Bell stand and saw the bloke in the picture with an Arsenal hoodie on! Me and my son are getting increasingly fed up of the amount of tourist fans attending games! They rock up at about a minute before Kick Off, stand around blocking your view taking selfies, then can't find their seat! Seems the club are increasingly more interested in revenue than die hard, born and bred View attachment 147809fans that stuck with the club through the dark times!
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£££ definitely
 
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