Away fans / tourists in home sections

[Man_City_Loyal]

And that’s the type of club we are now. Popular, winners (more often than not) and global. Of course people will want to come and see us.

Imagine 20 years ago someone said in 2025 we will be classed in the same regard as Barca and Real Madrid? You’d have sent them to Park House.

very true

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

The lad who sat next to me for 20+ years gave his season ticket up at the end of the 2022-23 season due to the price increase. I’ve had a different foreign visitor next to me or an empty seat for pretty much every game since.

A mate of mine has tried to get that seat about a dozen times for a game and it’s never listed on the City website. Even when it’s gone empty.

I’ve got an empty seat next to me nearly every game. It used to be one of my kid’s which I stupidly gave up when they went to uni (the seat, not the kid!). Can’t get it back now so I just buy one elsewhere and they sit with me anyway. It’s never for sale and was even empty for the derby match.

 

[champo]

I have been attending games since the 80s and I understand this situation is a trade off for being incredibly successful. It’s a double edged sword, a deal with the devil, that success brings hangers on. I saw it OT and at Anfield 20+ years ago and used to laugh my head off, and now here we are.

I was sat next to an older couple (I’m 50) on the concourse yesterday and I heard the chap bemoaning the half and half scarfers and I struck up a conversation. His take, as a season card holder, was that other SC holders were selling their tickets on resale sites. Whatever the issue is with more and more overseas fans and non City fans getting tickets it is damaging the atmosphere and eroding football as we know it.

Looking around at the derby game, Madrid home and yesterday’s game there are masses of tourist fans who are so unaware of how to behave at a match. If you are going to come and sit in the home end at least pretend to support City, ditch the half and half scarfs and wear blue!

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

I understand English football culture isn't built around this, but at this point I'd settle for an end of home fans and home fans only who police themselves via means good and bad. The San Siro is full of tourists but try celebrating a goal or not making a noise in the curva sud/nord sections. I thought we were getting something like this with the new stand but apparently not. Just want one stand with a culture where people filming themselves get told to stop and celebrating opposition goals gets sorted immediately or you know you'd be an idiot to try it.

we can do this ourselves

 

[mexico1970]

Liverpool fans?

Do you ask for passports? And good old Glasgow Rangers.

If they were Liverpool fans they most certainly were cunts then, jumping up and down when the scouse scored saw many of them manhandled and thrown out.

I said tourists because that's what they were, all with the benefit of sitting with their friends drinking out of water bottles a litre full and with no care in the world.

Cunts even got offended when they were ejected :)

 

[Dodge]

Apparently these changed for the 2022/23 season in effect. The s.14 banning order used to be applied for after most football related convictions, now they are by default with a duty on the court to impose them unless there is a good reason not too, and also the police can apply for a banning order without proving a crime. It only has to go to the magistrates court and the defendant doesn't have to be there.

Seems like some Judge Dredd stuff to me, and they asked @Dodge to accept a 3 year plus ban on the spot, with an interim ban. Draco's Code has its renaissance.

The Met never told me it would 3 years, it would likely be a year but maybe 3 out of 10 put a good enough case to the Court for the FBO to be deemed inappropriate in the circumstances. It cannot be right that one fits all. The same punishment can't be given to a fan who has committed a simple error of judgement in comparison to a thug who, lets say, fills a plastic cup with coins and maims an innocent young girl. Surely not. Can it?

 

[paulchapo]

As will I, but so many complain about being priced out yet we still struggle shifting tickets for a 5th round FA Cup tie.
Have we really alienated so many of our long-term supporters?

As I've said in an earlier post the fans are now talked about and treated as customers not supporters by the club.
Now if you've been a customer ( Fan) during the dark days but can't get a ticket for any of the glamour ties, like Madrid, Liverpool etcetera and/or can't afford one if you even had the chance, why the fuck would you you jump at the offer of the crumbs of mighty Plymouth Argyle at 17:45 on a Saturday night in a game live in terrestrial TV? You'd think fuck you, sell it to the ones there against Madrid and Liverpool. That's what happens and is with increasing numbers now.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

We used to laugh at the rags for being a club just like we’ve become.
It’s a sign of being successful. It goes with the territory.
We want to keep winning - so then it will increase.
Go back to being an average club and then it will go away.
Which one do you want? We can’t have both (successful without the glory hunters)

 

[TheGhost]

The Met never told me it would 3 years, it would likely be a year but maybe 3 out of 10 put a good enough case to the Court for the FBO to be deemed inappropriate in the circumstances. It cannot be right that one fits all. The same punishment can't be given to a fan who has committed a simple error of judgement in comparison to a thug who, lets say, fills a plastic cup with coins and maims an innocent young girl. Surely not. Can it?

What did you do?

 

[.db.]

I’ve got an empty seat next to me nearly every game. It used to be one of my kid’s which I stupidly gave up when they went to uni (the seat, not the kid!). Can’t get it back now so I just buy one elsewhere and they sit with me anyway. It’s never for sale and was even empty for the derby match.

The seat next to me was empty yesterday.

 

[give it to gordon]

As I've said in an earlier post the fans are now talked about and treated as customers not supporters by the club.
Now if you've been a customer ( Fan) during the dark days but can't get a ticket for any of the glamour ties, like Madrid, Liverpool etcetera and/or can't afford one if you even had the chance, why the fuck would you you jump at the offer of the crumbs of mighty Plymouth Argyle at 17:45 on a Saturday night in a game live in terrestrial TV? You'd think fuck you, sell it to the ones there against Madrid and Liverpool. That's what happens and is with increasing numbers now.

The Plymouth games wasn't even mentioned on our WhatsApp group. Like you say why would we only travel for the 'non glamorous' games after decades of traveling around England ?

 

[paulchapo]

What did you do?

Brace yourself.....lol....

 

[ysmsa]

On the back of threads re whole rows of non City fans attending games................Sat in my usual seat in the Colin Bell stand and saw the bloke in the picture with an Arsenal hoodie on! Me and my son are getting increasingly fed up of the amount of tourist fans attending games! They rock up at about a minute before Kick Off, stand around blocking your view taking selfies, then can't find their seat! Seems the club are increasingly more interested in revenue than die hard, born and bred View attachment 147809fans that stuck with the club through the dark times!

Mmm!

I reckon this has always gone on. How many of us have been to games not involving City, all or most of us I bet.

The only difference is the advent of phones and social media.

Best to ignore em but give em a bit of stick, it ain't changing.

I saw 3 Chinese blokes get out of a Taxi yesterday with Rag merchandise bags!

I said wtf, but not in Chinese so they probably didn't understand me.

 

[.db.]

I understand English football culture isn't built around this, but at this point I'd settle for an end of home fans and home fans only who police themselves via means good and bad. The San Siro is full of tourists but try celebrating a goal or not making a noise in the curva sud/nord sections. I thought we were getting something like this with the new stand but apparently not. Just want one stand with a culture where people filming themselves get told to stop and celebrating opposition goals gets sorted immediately or you know you'd be an idiot to try it.

We get banned when we take it into our own hands because the club identify us and inform the stewards/Police to eject us.

 

[Mr Ed (The Stables)]

The Plymouth games wasn't even mentioned on our WhatsApp group. Like you say why would we only travel for the 'non glamorous' games after decades of traveling around England ?

Back in the good old days ie the 1970's, I seem to remember if you went to a "lesser game" they'd give you a voucher that meant you could get a ticket for a more "glamerous game" like the drby.

Seems we are starting to put the cart in front of the horse to me, in that fans who go to the shit games like Plymouth should get proirity for the glamerous games like Madrid and the Dippers.

 

[.db.]

It kills me what we have become. I mean, i know its a consequence of our success and i wouldnt swap a single second but match days have drained me.
First to go 100% is champs league. Boring as fuck and then the big games are full of tourists. The real madrid game confirmed what i already knew, out of the scheme next year.

Then big league games like yesterday have the same feel.
And its not just inside the ground.
Public transport, parking, access. Its like the club/council are doing everything they can to make it all feel shit.

Ive had a season ticket all the way through from 1985. But one thing i can promise you all, and i know this absolutely factually as heard it from the horses mouth; the bean counters dont care about us and care about a bum on a seat spending money.

Said this before, the men at the top are BRILLIANT at their jobs but none are blues, some arent even football fans , so they dont/wont understand where WE are coming from. Snd i realised this when i said to one of the men near the top when in his company, “pisses me off that you keep increasing SC prices when united have froze theirs for years”. His reply, “yes but they are shit”, and laughed.

So there you have it, whilst we experience success they dont give a fuck and we will pay for it.
Be interesting if we have a proper dip, which is possible, and when the tourists slope off, will the bean counters come creeping back round us?

They’ll just leave the club and get a job elsewhere.

 

[ysmsa]

This season is the first time I've started to waiver on just how disillusioned I've become with the club. Going to every home game and seeing more and more tourists, and more and more away fans in our end, is getting all a bit...shit?

Winds me up.

Why are you arsed, it's not a City thing, happens at every PL game.

The UK is a tourist destination, football has become a check list for visitors.

Not for me, the last thing I would do on holiday is watch a footy match but then again, we are blessed with having one of the best teams playing in the most popular league in the world. That's why we have tourists.

Can't have it both ways, if the PL wasn't so successful then no one would want to watch it.
The price of success I suppose but nobody in their right mind would go back to the dark days of the 80's surely.

I do me and they can do what the fuck they want.
They have to be prepared for a slap if they celebrate a goal against City though.

 

[East Level 2]

As I've said in an earlier post the fans are now talked about and treated as customers not supporters by the club.
Now if you've been a customer ( Fan) during the dark days but can't get a ticket for any of the glamour ties, like Madrid, Liverpool etcetera and/or can't afford one if you even had the chance, why the fuck would you you jump at the offer of the crumbs of mighty Plymouth Argyle at 17:45 on a Saturday night in a game live in terrestrial TV? You'd think fuck you, sell it to the ones there against Madrid and Liverpool. That's what happens and is with increasing numbers now.

Then we're screwed for attracting those who were priced out, as I said elsewhere. The odd lapsed fan might return I suppose but if the majority can't be arsed with the FA Cup just because it's Plymouth and it's on telly then we've no chance of filling the expanded stand more than five or six times a season and even then it will be full of tourists and/or away fans. - Though I still think there aren't enough tourists to fill it for most games.
If the stand is open for the second half of next season and proves difficult to fill, then we may see some interesting price changes for the start of the following season. But will that be too late to attract lapsed Blues?

 

[paulchapo]

Back in the good old days ie the 1970's, I seem to remember if you went to a "lesser game" they'd give you a voucher that meant you could get a ticket for a more "glamerous game" like the drby.

Seems we are starting to put the cart in front of the horse to me, in that fans who go to the shit games like Plymouth should get proirity for the glamerous games like Madrid and the Dippers.

We had those tokens on the back of the programme that you stuck on a voucher sheet. That enabled you to purchase tickets for the big games. The downside was you had to buy a programme, but most people did back then as there was no internet and dedicated City magazines so the programme was everything. Other games you just turned up at the turnstile, paid your cash and you were in.

 

[ancoats]

The scary thing is are these fans are being checked for address country and name on the ticket or bought of a tout
I know security is not watertight and things like smoke bombs and other crazy things get in and passed by them.

All it takes is one nutter and we could be in trouble, I've no problem with fans buying tickets from the club and in the right way, But touts sell to anybody