Away fans / tourists in home sections

NJMCFC184 said:
Fuck em , you get 3000 tickets. The rest of them if they do go in home end keep your mouth shut, I work as a steward at football matches so have dealt with this. Id still expect a twatting if I was in home end celebrating
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I know a steward who works at the Etihad. He says the worst things about his job are away fans in the home end at the footy, and women passing out/scrapping/soiling themselves from drinking too much at concerts like Take That.
 
metalblue said:
Spot on fella. Did it plenty when we were in the old third division and would struggle to get a ticket in our end so would buy a ticket in the home end and keep my mouth shut. No mither.

Only time I thought different was PNE away and a couple of blues got up celebrating when we equalised and the locals rightly got a bit upset - couldn’t see a blue getting a pasting so figured I’d have to get stuck in and it would end up with me getting a right kicking meself but fortunately the stewards were on their toes and moved them before it all kicked off and I still got to keep my looks ;)
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If you go in an away you keep your mouth shut, we’ve all done it and if you act like a prick and someone gives you a slap you deserve it.
 
To be fair to the club there are also several twitter and Facebook ticket sites where our own fans are selling on to get more than they would via exchange or on here at FV. You only need one or two to end up going to the wrong hands for there to be problems. Mobile ticketing makes it far too easy for tickets to end up with non-city fans or away fans, simple as that as there is no trail ie no face-to-face contact like with paper tickets when selling on.

Mods on here - might be an idea to restrict forum members with less than 12 months history to access the ticket forum? I put my son’s ticket on and had 7 messages from members who’ve joined this season. Might be harsh for those genuine new fans or new forum members genuinely seeking tickets, but would set an example I guess. I would never sell to anyone without any profile or postings other than ‘seeking ticket for …’
 
philiph20 said:
If you go in an away you keep your mouth shut, we’ve all done it and if you act like a prick and someone gives you a slap you deserve it.
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Me and My Father did a fair few away ground home ends when I was a kid. We tried our best to blend in, we strictly wore no colours of any kind, I even used to clap along to home fans songs if I noticed my Father get a few funny looks from anyone around us.

SheffWeds away we got rumbled (you can tell a mile off even when it’s not one of your fans). But because we’d been respectful to their fan culture and did try to blend in, they were sound with us.

Apart from once; I went to a Maine Road derby at a big screen showing at Old Trafford (long story). I got brave when Micky Francis and a load of banned Blues all jumped up when we scored and even as a 13 year old I got kicked in the head by a Rag… but, I fucking deserved it!
 
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Sat in South stand L3 yesterday in front of some very excitable Egyptian girls. Very clear they weren’t supporting either team.. they were supporting 2 players. Period. Very strange approach to watching football but each to their own I guess.
 
East Level 2 said:
I accept my two paragraphs were contradictory to an extent, but we have lots of fans who seem to moan about prices but reject low-cost games so we have to offer them in bulk to ST holders.
If we've pissed off the entire long-term support, and much of the potential new support, then we're stuck with bloody tourists.
As an aside I know a rag who takes his lad to a few games a season at the swamp. League Cup, Thursday League, that sort of thing. But he's never been a regular, knows he won't get tickets for "big games" and is happy to go when he can. Is that the sort of person City now want as supporters for games the tourists aren't interested in?
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Yeah I don't like to argue with anyone on here generally, and certainly not your good self as you make valid points.
I guess, in relation to the last paragraph, yes the club just want bums on seats these days. They're not bothered who that may be.
 
metalblue said:
Spot on fella. Did it plenty when we were in the old third division and would struggle to get a ticket in our end so would buy a ticket in the home end and keep my mouth shut. No mither.

Only time I thought different was PNE away and a couple of blues got up celebrating when we equalised and the locals rightly got a bit upset - couldn’t see a blue getting a pasting so figured I’d have to get stuck in and it would end up with me getting a right kicking meself but fortunately the stewards were on their toes and moved them before it all kicked off and I still got to keep my looks ;)
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I did it loads during that period for the same reasons you stated, and also on a couple of occasions forgot where I was and nearly came a cropper myself - great fun though!

Quite a depressing read this thread tbh
 
beermusic said:
To be fair to the club there are also several twitter and Facebook ticket sites where our own fans are selling on to get more than they would via exchange or on here at FV. You only need one or two to end up going to the wrong hands for there to be problems. Mobile ticketing makes it far too easy for tickets to end up with non-city fans or away fans, simple as that as there is no trail ie no face-to-face contact like with paper tickets when selling on.

Mods on here - might be an idea to restrict forum members with less than 12 months history to access the ticket forum? I put my son’s ticket on and had 7 messages from members who’ve joined this season. Might be harsh for those genuine new fans or new forum members genuinely seeking tickets, but would set an example I guess. I would never sell to anyone without any profile or postings other than ‘seeking ticket for …’
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Good suggestion.

The Ticket Compliance Manager could focus on the sites/pages where people are taking the piss (even if they are linked to City) and the leave the one(s) with an impeccable track record alone.
 
Thousands of tickets still left for the Plymouth game. (yeah, I know, it's only Monday)

279 tickets in 324 alone.

Hundreds in other blocks.

With another 8000 seats to fill next season.

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PS. This is not the ticket Seat Counters 2024/25, flapping thread, jrb.
 
paulchapo said:
Is that what happened? Feelings and emotions run high at football and no in the cold light of day it doesn't feel right. At the game though people are caught up with the crowd and the passion. Your team has just conceded a goal in a volatile game against fierce rivals. You're in the home end, a place there should be no opposition fans and then somebody jumps up celebrating the goal. It's going to wind people up, they're not robots.

If it's a foreign tourist fan I genuinely feel sorry for them. They are just fans of English football and want to watch a top game while visiting the country. Many don't understand the protocol of doing so and the fierce rivalry that exists at games. A simple "Sorry mate you're in the City end you can't celebrate Liverpool scoring a goal.in here" would suffice. If it's a scouser no sympathy, they know the score. I've watched many an away game in home ends, you have to keep your mouth shut and be respectful. Sure in an ideal world everybody would be able to sit/stand together but we all know that's not going to happen. Also anybody getting involved is likely risking a ban and a possible criminal charge, it just isn't worth it. Easy to say with hindsight though, in the moment emotions are running high. If you kill that emotion completely then football is finished.
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I concur, been in the away end at Millwall, Southampton, Portsmouth, Charlton, West Ham, Watford, Crystal Palace, Brighton, Bournemouth, and behaved, it is very hard not to celebrate but, realised where I was and did not celebrate or get chirpy, hence did not get tuned in.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
Aye.

For me, in the previous two seasons to this one…
2022-23 Group Stage prices: Dortmund £25, Copenhagen £22, Sevilla £22 = £69
2023-24 Group Stage prices: Belgrade £27, Young Boys £27, Leipzig £27 = £81 (quite a big jump in itself)

2024-25 League Phase and KO Round prices: Inter £52.50, Praha £30, Feyenoord £30, Brugge £30, Madrid £52.50 = £195

From £69 to £195 in two years. A 134% increase on what we were required to pay just two years ago.
Even per game that’s £23/game in 2022-23 to £39/game two years later. A 69.6% increase per game.

Where’s the justification in such a jump in price rises? The Inter and Madrid prices were quarter-final and semi-final prices from the previous two seasons, yet they were in the League Phase and the Gutter Round. The equivalents of playing Watford in the early round of the EFL Cup in September or Salford in the early rounds of the FA Cup in January. When they have extra games to earn from compared to previous years , they could have charged £15/game (£75 total) and earnt more than they did from the Group Stage in 2022-23 and filled the ground with City fans.

I paid it, but thousands wouldn’t have bothered. Especially, when City don’t inform any of us how much games are going to be. They don’t inform us when we commit to the Cup Scheme in the Summer, they don’t tell us at the start of the season, they don’t tell us upon commencement of the CL, we are only informed a week or two before they take the money out for each game (or in the case for the Feyenoord game, the fucking day before they were going to take the money out!).

The disdain they hold us in is staggering!
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Have decided this is my last year in Champions League Scheme due to increase in ticket costs to more than double previous years plus parking issues etc etc etc

Plus the quality of the football in the one league format has not improved from the group format of years gone by.

UEFA and City no doubt rubbing their hands at extra game and play off game ticket revenue

As a season ticket holder for 40 years + it's one competion down 3 to go - how long that lasts is down to the club
 
If what they're saying about the lad in 115 is true though, he didn't celebrate but got his phone out to film the scousers celebrating. That's definitely in the "follow protocol" part of what's being said above but after Madrid, people are looking to kick off right now and to me, the stewards shoud be taking half and half'ers and club shop bag carriers to one side before entry and giving them a briefing on how to behave
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
I posted this not long ago:

Post in thread 'Priced out?'
https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/priced-out.365058/post-17737859

I hope it happens. The boardrooms of all our clubs in the PL deserve it.
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Great post and a very stark warning. We as a club are sailing close to the wind on this IMO. We are not a ‘tourist club’. We should be trying to offer something different to the red tops, not attempting to become one of them. A huge club but a local’s club should be out mantra. Maybe that is unrealistic in this business but any drop in our success, and it will happen, and we could see a ground that is 2/3s full most weeks.
 
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