Away tickets

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I understand the point you're making but home tickets aren't the issue. If you buy a seasoncard it's yours, at the club's discretion and subject to observing their terms and conditions. Now we know that no one ever writes to the club when they're taking someone else other than the person named on the ticket but technically you are breaking the law. However that's akin to driving in a 30mph limit at 31mph. You're highly unlikely to get prosecuted. I'm not defending the legislation about reselling of football tickets by the way. It should apply to all tickets rather than solely criminalise football fans.

When you use the points on that card to buy an away ticket, that's completely different. The club is acting as an agent for the issuing club so the selling club's regulations apply, not City's. You can't use City's T&C's to support reselling an away ticket because it's not covered by those. It's like trying to use Marks & Spencer's returns policy at Debenhams, just because the item you bought at M&S is also sold by Debenhams. So I don't accept that argument in any way.

But I do accept that people buy away tickets who genuinely find they subsequently can't use them. If that's within the 7-day returns window then I think most would agree that it's acceptable to pass the ticket on as the choice is between doing that and not using it. But there's a huge difference between that and buying an away ticket knowing that the person named on the card isn't going to be the one using it, whether they're on your F&F list or not. That's abusing the system.

Let's say you've got a seasoncard and a member of your family - parent, child, brother, etc - has one but they never or rarely do away games. But that ticket has 20k points because you regularly use it to buy a ticket for someone who only has 5k points or isn't even a seasoncard holder then that is simply wrong. You can't defend the points system and say all tickets should be distributed via loyalty points then simultaneously support something that is the antithesis of the points system. That's hypocrisy of the highest order and I'm surprised at you for suggesting it. You simply can't have it both ways to suit yourself.

I'm not sure City can have it both ways, draconian on away tickets but liberal on home tickets as they get the money.

I you have 2 or 3 cards and you paid for all the away tickets you should carry on being able to do that - I even have two cards in my name due to a club fuck up, and when asked to change they said it didn't matter at the time, so I could pick up anyway and exchange bands if i was forced to. If the names didn't matter to the club in the past (bar euros for a season) they shouldn't enforce something now.

Someone pays for say 2 cards 24k points that is a lot of money for the club to say, we need photo ID, when i don't have any photo ID myself due to passport expiring, and I certainly don't want to pay for another one due to Thatcher's scheme. which infringed civil liberties and was too unworkable to be adopted in the 1980s, being reintroduced now by city.

What will Saint and Greavsie have to say?
 
I'm not sure City can have it both ways, draconian on away tickets but liberal on home tickets as they get the money.

I you have 2 or 3 cards and you paid for all the away tickets you should carry on being able to do that - I even have two cards in my name due to a club fuck up, and when asked to change they said it didn't matter at the time, so I could pick up anyway and exchange bands if i was forced to. If the names didn't matter to the club in the past (bar euros for a season) they shouldn't enforce something now.

Someone pays for say 2 cards 24k points that is a lot of money for the club to say, we need photo ID, when i don't have any photo ID myself due to passport expiring, and I certainly don't want to pay for another one due to Thatcher's scheme. which infringed civil liberties and was too unworkable to be adopted in the 1980s, being reintroduced now by city.

What will Saint and Greavsie have to say?
The bit I don’t understand is;
How come it’s acceptable for a corporate seasoncard holder to pass on tickets to others but it’s illegal for a regular seasoncard holder to do so. And the reason we were given last night is that they have different criteria for allocation!
So corporate can break the law with impunity, you however will have to produce ID to show who you are or be criminalised. You really could not make it up.
 
For those going to Burnley today, if you see an obvious tourist can accidentally spill a pint on them
Can someone stand with a clipboard and collate how many fans are there with either less than 19k or if it’s there first game of the season and ask they they obtained the ticket
 
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The bit I don’t understand is;
How come it’s acceptable for a corporate seasoncard holder to pass on tickets to others but it’s illegal for a regular seasoncard holder to do so. And the reason we were given last night is that they have different criteria for allocation!
So corporate can break the law with impunity, you however will have to produce ID to show who you are or be criminalised. You really could not make it up.

££££££ - the club make nothing after postage for normal fans on away games, that is why they are using city matters to reduce the numbers of fans going on points.

The criminalisation was for touting, not family members taking turns, and no judge in the word would entertain the latter.
 
@squirtyflower *lol* no way SF a nice glass of Chardonnay for me but nothing before a match! I like to have my wits about me to keep the opposition players off our lads! Touch VK I’m over the barrier!! (Mind you by the time I make it the match could be finished!)

I meant a pint for the clipboard carrier. :-)
 
Can someone stand with a clipboard and collate how many fans are there with either less than 19k or if it’s there first game of the season and ask they they obtained the ticket

No need to get like that with them, they aren’t the issue

Take the seat number down and expose the people who sold it on, they are the real issue here
 
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