Aymeric Laporte

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RichardDunneOwnGoal said:
There are at least a dozen centre halves, probably more, in England alone that are better than Stones.

All Stones is is potential, and hype.
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Well that is utter rubbish, Stones has everything to make it to the elite level. Best English centre half by quite a distance and top 5 in the premier league.
 
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johnmc said:
Name 5 who were at his level at 21 years old.
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That's a different question. And I refer you back to my point about potential.

Micah was pulling up trees at 18 at centre half under Sven, youngest capped England defender or something, tipped as a future England captain.

Look at him now.

Potential amounts for very little, especially when it's marked by very clear flaws.

At present, there are at least a dozen centre halves in the PL who are better than John Stones.
 
RichardDunneOwnGoal said:
That's a different question. And I refer you back to my point about potential.

Micah was pulling up trees at 18 at centre half under Sven, youngest capped England defender or something, tipped as a future England captain.

Look at him now.

Potential amounts for very little, especially when it's marked by very clear flaws.

At present, there are at least a dozen centre halves in the PL who are better than John Stones.
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Fair enough. Valid points.

Micah's development suffered badly because of injuries. And as a result he was in and out of the team and shoved to full back. I've always thought he should have always been a centre half. Also it's clear Micah doesn't have a football brain whereas I think Stones clearly does.

A lot of Stones fee is down to potential but I firmly believe he would be ready to play in Peps system when comparing him to Pique and Boateng.

He's had two full premier league seasons at the age of 20 and 21 and has made a few mistakes granted. You could name me a dozen better centre halves but I will be able to show you mistakes for each and everyone of them I'm certain. All footballers make mistakes. He's still learning a position in which players don't perform until mid to late 20's.

Anyway name your 12. I'm curious :)
 
After forking out 40 odd million on another centre back, I'd be interested to know what's gonna happen to our other 30+ million centre backs plus our captain. 4 top centre backs for two positions? I don't think so somehow
 
Seems a bit strange that so many seem to know that Gundogan has done his Citytv stuff in Barcelona yet no one has mentioned Laporte has done his yet everyone is expecting a double signing to be announced.
 
mancityscot said:
After forking out 40 odd million on another centre back, I'd be interested to know what's gonna happen to our other 30+ million centre backs plus our captain. 4 top centre backs for two positions? I don't think so somehow
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Kompanys minutes per season has been in decline for several years unfortunately and whilst he will remain the best defender at the club regardless of who we sign he cannot be relied upon. So with MDM and Kompany we are effectively 2 centre halves down. If pep has seen enough of Otta and/or Mangala to decide they aren't for him which isn't beyond the realms then that's 3 down.
 
I'll have a go at the 12 off the top of my head:

smalling, cahill (it seems Roy believes so)
Terry (considered by many to be the best in the division irrespective of his personality)
Koscielny, Mangala and Sakho (all have more caps than Laporte)
Kompany, Vertonghen, Alderweld
Arguably Jagielka and the Argentinian at Everton (when Stones was kept out of the team)
Denayer (according to the masses on here)
Morgan (was in PFA team of the year)

That's 13 but Denayer doesn't count as he's not yet played in the premier league..

PS I am not actually suggesting that Stones or Laporte are good or bad buys. It is clear that neither are the finished article as there are others picked ahead of them at club or international level, but somebody has to make a judgement on whether they believe they will evolve into Bobby Moore or David Luiz. I suspect the margins between these different outcomes are very fine.
 
Bluster said:
I'll have a go at the 12 off the top of my head:

smalling, cahill (it seems Roy believes so)
Terry (considered by many to be the best in the division irrespective of his personality)
Koscielny, Mangala and Sakho (all have more caps than Laporte)
Kompany, Vertonghen, Alderweld
Arguably Jagielka and the Argentinian at Everton (when Stones was kept out of the team)
Denayer (according to the masses on here)
Morgan (was in PFA team of the year)

That's 13 but Denayer doesn't count as he's not yet played in the premier league..

PS I am not actually suggesting that Stones or Laporte are good or bad buys. It is clear that neither are the finished article as there are others picked ahead of them at club or international level, but somebody has to make a judgement on whether they believe they will evolve into Bobby Moore or David Luiz. I suspect the margins between these different outcomes are very fine.
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Imagine thinking that nightclub bouncer wes Morgan was better at football then John stones

Not one player on that list bar John terry in his prime is better than stones

Lord come down and take my soul I've read it all now
 
Why are people moaning? Mangala is bang average, Kompany is injury prone and nobody has an idea of Denayer's qualities. I'd like to think the best manager in the world has an idea what he's doing.
 
Bluster said:
I'll have a go at the 12 off the top of my head:

smalling, cahill (it seems Roy believes so)
Terry (considered by many to be the best in the division irrespective of his personality)
Koscielny, Mangala and Sakho (all have more caps than Laporte)
Kompany, Vertonghen, Alderweld
Arguably Jagielka and the Argentinian at Everton (when Stones was kept out of the team)
Denayer (according to the masses on here)
Morgan (was in PFA team of the year)

That's 13 but Denayer doesn't count as he's not yet played in the premier league..

PS I am not actually suggesting that Stones or Laporte are good or bad buys. It is clear that neither are the finished article as there are others picked ahead of them at club or international level, but somebody has to make a judgement on whether they believe they will evolve into Bobby Moore or David Luiz. I suspect the margins between these different outcomes are very fine.
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jesus wept
 
John stones= most overrated centre back I've ever watched, good on the ball but fucks about too much, average defender, never seen this guy play but prefer him regardless
 
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