Bad talents or superior squad?

It would have been interesting to see what would have happened with our lot of White, Redmond, Hinchy, Lake etc if we'd had a pot to piss in & bought some top quality players rather than with respect and I am generalising a load of Everton past it reserves.

I loved the team around that time but it was so frustrating as to what could have been.

We had potential at the time when Kendall came in, massive mistake from him going back to Everton as we could have done something under Kendall. We did show some intent spending big on Curle and Phelan then the club started to creek backwards as it entered the last days of Swales.
 
They've essentially had two good periods for youth, under Busby from mid-50s to early 60s and then again with the 92 lot. Otherwise they're not much better than any other Academy in terms of quality although they do tend to give kids more minutes - but as recent league tables show it doesn't do much good if the quality isn't there.

But because of who they are they've always managed to sell on youth players for a million here or a couple of million there and it's been a great revenue generator
We do the same and it's bad for football
 
It’s vital for the club

The only way we will get rid of this money bags, ruining English football tag is to produce home grown talent for the first team and England. Only then will the narrative change.

That’s why Phil Foden’s development is so important. As well as being a potential word class player he will be PR gold for the club.
 
Not arsed, success of academy is down to how many young players sign for a professional club. Breaking through into the city squad is just the icing on the cake. Seems every window now we manage to re coupe 20m or so from sales of kids, maybe enabling us to sign high profile players without breaking the financial rules.
 
It’s vital for the club

The only way we will get rid of this money bags, ruining English football tag is to produce home grown talent for the first team and England. Only then will the narrative change.

That’s why Phil Foden’s development is so important. As well as being a potential word class player he will be PR gold for the club.

No it's not, because no matter what City do, they will always find another stick to beat us with
 
It’s vital for the club

The only way we will get rid of this money bags, ruining English football tag is to produce home grown talent for the first team and England. Only then will the narrative change.

That’s why Phil Foden’s development is so important. As well as being a potential word class player he will be PR gold for the club.

I actually don't think Foden is the key player here. Phil will go on to start for us for a long time, but having 1 token home grown player, no matter how good won't cure the image you're talking about.

The key is to do what United and Barca did, which is produce good enough squad players.

No academy in the world can be good enough to produce a lot of starters for a team at the top of modern football regularly, but the supporting cast is where you can fit them in. Second choice fullbacks, a 4th choice CB, one of your forward options, the back up keeper - if you can get those spots filled with homegrown players, then you're not only getting rid of any bad image, but it's a humongous cash cow.

If, for example, Taylor Harwood Bellis plays 50 games for City as 4th choice CB by the time he turns 21 then he'll be a £30m player. If Angelino plays semi-regularly for us over the next 2 years and then leaves because he wants first team football, he could be a £25m+ player.

Then you solve 2 problems in one because you bring in a ton of money to offset spending on your best 18 or so players and you're also spreading around a bunch of academy players who are starting at midtable clubs acting as an advertisement for the academy.
 
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No it's not, because no matter what City do, they will always find another stick to beat us with

This is the short term view. Fact is if you're good enough for long enough you become part of the establishment and then benefit from the same kind of protection as the clubs we despise.

There's a whole generation of 18 year olds out there who don't remember City being anything other than a top 4 side. By the time they're 30 and having kids of their own, John Aldridge, Miguel Delaney or whoever you think hates City over-zealously now won't have an audience.
 

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