Baleba

[eyalluvitt]

Wasn't there a link to West Ham's Alvarez few weeks back?

Coz we still have a few hundred pre printed shirts in the souvenir shop basement?

 

[It'sBlue93:20]

I’d love Baleba and I think he’s a player who can make a great impact over many years for us. He is only 20 or so and is gonna come with an astronomical price tag. Although I feel as though if you buy a 20 year old for £100 million keep him for 10 years and he can be better value than a 27 year old for £60 million who stays for 5 years. But we would have to be sure he’s the right player for us , very good off the ball no doubt, only question for me is on-the ball is he good enough, is the passing ability there, weight of pass, first touch etc im not sure because obviously whoever it is will likely have to step into a number 6 role this is also why im a bit doubtful on Ederson. Wharton could be another shout .

 

[christened at st marks]

I'd bet if Brighton had Jacob Wright or McAt they would be playing for them

 

[neph27]

I'd bet if Brighton had Jacob Wright or McAt they would be playing for them

Ffs give it a rest

 

[Cobwebcat]

I think there is confusion here. Starlizard are using algorithms to analyse stats for gambling purposes. I interviewed there lol.

They are able to apply parts of the data they use to identify things to help Brighton for players but its nothing that CFG won't be using also.

Brighton have had their fair of complete shit also but that gets covered up by the success lets not forget.

The main thing Brighton can offer players like Baleba is a very good structure to come into. Nice place to live, close to London, modern stadium, good training facilities and average to good performances in the league consistently.

That’s not all true.

Starlizard have the best data and algorithms for footy data in the World…by a mile. They recently moved the footy stats arm to a company called Jamestown analytics. You cannot buy their data you have to be invited and it’s one team per country. So far there are only 4 clubs that they work with and even they don’t see how it is done. Hearts are the latest. It was strongly rumoured that Liverpool (who have one of the best data analytics departments in the World) offered Jamestown £50 million to be part of the group and Bloom said no for obvious reasons.

It’s also one thing having the best data but quite another knowing what to do with it and committing to it.

Tony Bloom and Hearts: Recruitment, Jamestown, algorithms, Belgium and vision

Who is Tony Bloom? Hearts Standard spoke to numerous people to find out more.

www.heartsstandard.co.uk

I’m guessing that Hearts have to pay Bloom a percentage of any future profit made from player sales.

The Impact Of Jamestown Analytics On World Football

Jamestown Analytics have proven themselves to be one of Football's leading organisations when it comes to player recruitment, as evidence by their work at Brighton. Here we look into their background.

jobsinfootball.com

There are departments that know pieces of the algorithm but only Bloom knows the lot. This applies to the betting arm and the player transfer side too.

There is probably only Brentford via Benham that do anything like Brighton do in Word football. It’s not something easy to replicate in fact it’s impossible. If it was then everyone would be winning millions from the Asian betting markets and they aren’t.

To think these guys just have the same run of the mill data and algorithms as everyone else is a complete misunderstanding of what they do.

 

[WRicko]

That’s not all true.

Starlizard have the best data and algorithms for footy data in the World…by a mile. They recently moved the footy stats arm to a company called Jamestown analytics. You cannot buy their data you have to be invited and it’s one team per country. So far there are only 4 clubs that they work with and even they don’t see how it is done. Hearts are the latest. It was strongly rumoured that Liverpool (who have one of the best data analytics departments in the World) offered Jamestown £50 million to be part of the group and Bloom said no for obvious reasons.

It’s also one thing having the best data but quite another knowing what to do with it and committing to it.

Tony Bloom and Hearts: Recruitment, Jamestown, algorithms, Belgium and vision

Who is Tony Bloom? Hearts Standard spoke to numerous people to find out more.

www.heartsstandard.co.uk

I’m guessing that Hearts have to pay Bloom a percentage of any future profit made from player sales.

The Impact Of Jamestown Analytics On World Football

Jamestown Analytics have proven themselves to be one of Football's leading organisations when it comes to player recruitment, as evidence by their work at Brighton. Here we look into their background.

jobsinfootball.com

There are departments that know pieces of the algorithm but only Bloom knows the lot. This applies to the betting arm and the player transfer side too.

There is probably only Brentford via Benham that do anything like Brighton do in Word football. It’s not something easy to replicate in fact it’s impossible. If it was then everyone would be winning millions from the Asian betting markets and they aren’t.

To think these guys just have the same run of the mill data and algorithms as everyone else is a complete misunderstanding of what they do.

What’s the algorithm ? There won’t be one as such different clubs will pick different data to emphasis for different types of player based on different needs. The data won’t be that special either. FM has more data than most on players. CFG will also have more than most as they employ more scouts than most and have scouts looking in a wider area where people do not look as often such as China Bolivia perhaps still to a less extent Japan Australasia America due to having CFG clubs there.

Also due to the wide variety of clubs in CFG they are looking at a wider range of players the club in Bolivia won’t be look at the same level as City and each club will need different types of players at different times

I believe a few national teams and Bolvian club are using CFG scouting data and training methods.

CFG will employ the scouts and clubs will pay CFG for the scouting so basically what you describe with Brighton

 

[Cobwebcat]

What’s the algorithm ? There won’t be one as such different clubs will pick different data to emphasis for different types of player based on different needs. The data won’t be that special either. FM has more data than most on players. CFG will also have more than most as they employ more scouts than most and have scouts looking in a wider area where people do not look as often such as China Bolivia perhaps still to a less extent Japan Australasia America due to having CFG clubs there.

Also due to the wide variety of clubs in CFG they are looking at a wider range of players the club in Bolivia won’t be look at the same level as City and each club will need different types of players at different times

I believe a few national teams and Bolvian club are using CFG scouting data and training methods.

CFG will employ the scouts and clubs will pay CFG for the scouting so basically what you describe with Brighton

If you read the articles I posted, and that is your take, then I’m astonished but you are entitled to your opinion.

If your post is a Clarke…you got me.

 

[WRicko]

If you read the articles I posted, and that is your take, then I’m astonished but you are entitled to your opinion.

If your post is a Clarke…you got me.

I didn’t read them.

How about you respond to my post rather than insulting me ?

Let’s take the algorithm point again let’s say club x is looking for a defensive midfielder and it wants to focus on tackling ability Mean while club y needs a defensive midfielder more like Rodri it will focus on say passing ability.

How will the algorithm work ? It won’t you will pick the players with the best stats in the main areas that your particular club is looking at for a particular type of player.

I wouldn’t call that an algorithm

Scouts will also judge a player on less stat like stuff for example Robinho was possibly one of the most talented players I have seen a lot of his talent wouldn’t show on stats. Was it Mouriniho who said odgard touched the ball differently it made a different sound when he had the ball ? It’s up to clubs to decide how to value that.

Let’s go back to the data point CFG probably have more data than most for the reasons I explained

 

[TonyColemansbagofapples]

At the end of the day, whatever algorithm they or Brentford use, it has earned them both a fair amount of cash but absolutely no trophies whatsoever.
Furthermore, none look on the horizon either.

 

[decmancity]

That’s not all true.

Starlizard have the best data and algorithms for footy data in the World…by a mile. They recently moved the footy stats arm to a company called Jamestown analytics. You cannot buy their data you have to be invited and it’s one team per country. So far there are only 4 clubs that they work with and even they don’t see how it is done. Hearts are the latest. It was strongly rumoured that Liverpool (who have one of the best data analytics departments in the World) offered Jamestown £50 million to be part of the group and Bloom said no for obvious reasons.

It’s also one thing having the best data but quite another knowing what to do with it and committing to it.

Tony Bloom and Hearts: Recruitment, Jamestown, algorithms, Belgium and vision

Who is Tony Bloom? Hearts Standard spoke to numerous people to find out more.

www.heartsstandard.co.uk

I’m guessing that Hearts have to pay Bloom a percentage of any future profit made from player sales.

The Impact Of Jamestown Analytics On World Football

Jamestown Analytics have proven themselves to be one of Football's leading organisations when it comes to player recruitment, as evidence by their work at Brighton. Here we look into their background.

jobsinfootball.com

There are departments that know pieces of the algorithm but only Bloom knows the lot. This applies to the betting arm and the player transfer side too.

There is probably only Brentford via Benham that do anything like Brighton do in Word football. It’s not something easy to replicate in fact it’s impossible. If it was then everyone would be winning millions from the Asian betting markets and they aren’t.

To think these guys just have the same run of the mill data and algorithms as everyone else is a complete misunderstanding of what they do.

I never said they have the same as everyone else. They have their edge, like lots of other firms do.

They are not perfect, it's impossible to be.

I doubt Bloom even understands it, he has no computer science background or anything. He has used his wealth to hire very talented (sadly not me!) engineers to build the platform and has data analysts simply providing him with a sheet of paper that says what to bet on.