Baleba

[Cobwebcat]

I never said they have the same as everyone else. They have their edge, like lots of other firms do.

They are not perfect, it's impossible to be.

I doubt Bloom even understands it, he has no computer science background or anything. He has used his wealth to hire very talented (sadly not me!) engineers to build the platform and has data analysts simply providing him with a sheet of paper that says what to bet on.

I’m sorry but that’s untrue. He is the talent. Even a basic understanding of the history of Benham and Bloom would illustrate this. See how they became rich.

 

[decmancity]

I’m sorry but that’s untrue. He is the talent. Even a basic understanding of the history of Benham and Bloom would suffice.

Believe what you want, having been in the room with the people that work there they paint a very different picture.

Brighton have burnt hundreds of millions on shit players and earnt hundreds of millions on others. City have done the same. No system is perfect, Brighton just get away with it because no one really cares about them whereas every City signing is scrutinised.

 

[LesBleuMiserable]

Is it not the case Brighton have got lucky with some signings and equally others have not been so great.

Everyone is in awe of some of their better signings but don’t highlight the poor ones. If they were ripping it up in the Prem like say Atlanta in Serie A I would perhaps sit up and take more note.

For now you win with some and lose with some.

 

[Cobwebcat]

I didn’t read them.

How about you respond to my post rather than insulting me ?

Let’s take the algorithm point again let’s say club x is looking for a defensive midfielder and it wants to focus on tackling ability Mean while club y needs a defensive midfielder more like Rodri it will focus on say passing ability.

How will the algorithm work ? It won’t you will pick the players with the best stats in the main areas that your particular club is looking at for a particular type of player.

I wouldn’t call that an algorithm

Scouts will also judge a player on less stat like stuff for example Robinho was possibly one of the most talented players I have seen a lot of his talent wouldn’t show on stats. Was it Mouriniho who said odgard touched the ball differently it made a different sound when he had the ball ? It’s up to clubs to decide how to value that.

Let’s go back to the data point CFG probably have more data than most for the reasons I explained

I apologise if you felt insulted. All the answers are in the articles. If you are interested I don’t know why you wouldn’t read them.

To briefly answer your questions though…

The algorithm does, in its most basic aspect, what you are saying it can’t do. In fact nearly all sports science can do this, it’s nothing special in that regard. Statsbomb are probably the best known but Jamestown Analytics is in another league entirely.

You asked what the algorithm was. Given that only Bloom knows and it’s worth hundreds of millions to him and relies on nobody else knowing I thought you might be joking. He made his money by beating the bookmakers in the Asian markets. He does this with data that gives him an edge over anyone else. If his algorithms were known his edge would be lost.

Scouting is still important, you are right there. Data is good in that it can narrow the field based on required criteria and budget but it can’t tell you if the player will disturb the dressing room for example.

Ok so City. We have one of the biggest analytical departments in World football currently led by Laurie Shaw who you can read about here….

Training Ground Guru | Man City land big signing in quest to be the best in data science

A PhD in computational astrophysics, developing trading systems for a £30bn hedge fund and policy advisor for the British government: not your typical CV for a member of backroom staff. However, these are just some of the credentials of Laurie Shaw, who has been appointed Lead AI Scientist by...

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It is also correct that the data we share in the CFG gives us a significant edge over most clubs that don’t have the multi team model. However, it’s how the data is used that is most important as any data analyst would tell you.

Like most things in life there are levels. I don’t mean to insult you but Football Manager would be the equivalent of say Grimsby and that’s not to say it’s useless, it’s better than nothing but everyone has access to it’s limited data so there is no edge.

Liverpool and City have very good in house analytical teams which would be Champions league level.

Jamestown Analytics and Smartodds algorithms are like peak Barcelona.

Having them working for you won’t guarantee you trophies because teams like Brighton and Brentford cannot afford Haaland but they can mean you consistently over perform compared to your budget..watch the film Moneyball.

If all PL teams had the same spending power and everything was equal, Brighton and Brentford would be clear of the field but that will never happen so the measure has to be how are they doing with the resources they have.

I hope I have answered your questions.

 

[Cobwebcat]

Believe what you want, having been in the room with the people that work there they paint a very different picture.

Brighton have burnt hundreds of millions on shit players and earnt hundreds of millions on others. City have done the same. No system is perfect, Brighton just get away with it because no one really cares about them whereas every City signing is scrutinised.

You are correct I will believe what I think to be true which is Bloom made Billions of pounds via his algorithms which he created.

No system is perfect I agree.

I can’t say I like your last sentence as it sounds like the sort of thing a United fan would say to a blue in all honesty so I’m not going to do the same to Brighton.

 

[Dubciteh]

Baleba is class.

People mention lots of brighton flops, i dont think many pop to the top of my head and most of them are cheap signings can they really be flops?

 

[salfordbluetrue]

with Atlanta playing hard ball, we would do well to drop interest and go for this player. So Baleba, Khusanov and Rovella, would be an outstanding window, With Echverri, McFarlane and Bobb coming back, we have a chance of making CL next season.

 

[M16 citeh]

with Atlanta playing hard ball, we would do well to drop interest and go for this player. So Baleba, Khusanov and Rovella, would be an outstanding window, With Echverri, McFarlane and Bobb coming back, we have a chance of making CL next season.

Who is McFarlane?

 

[Dribble]

Who is McFarlane?

Young English youth international LB currently playing for New York City. Born in London to Jamaican parents, but raised in New York from very young. Physically he's a beast, with pace to burn.

Kind of reminds me of Alphonso Davies.

 

[richards30]

No chance we can get Baleba.