Balotelli - I want to make history with City

blueinsa said:
fbloke said:
I wont take too great a pleasure out of this one when I am proven right on this.

Sorry mate but what have you said?

Not read the whole thread.

He posted both sides, so he'll claim a victory in the future either way.

The emboldened quote is so unbelievably arrogant, that I'm actually struggling to believe that he has written it.
 
Damocles said:
blueinsa said:
Sorry mate but what have you said?

Not read the whole thread.

He posted both sides, so he'll claim a victory in the future either way.

The emboldened quote is so unbelievably arrogant, that I'm actually struggling to believe that he has written it.

There was no intention to sound arrogant but as this thread has developed my opinion has been challenged and I wanted to make it clear that I in no way intend to gloat about Balo's situation.

As for posting both sides you could construe it that way, but my original post on the thread was perhaps a tad harsh and as the conversation progressed it softened when other factors were brought forwards.

You see Dam' I dont have to take a position and be immovable, perhaps ignoring the facts as they are laid out in front of me. I am able to deal with, on occasion being wrong but also being right but using the wrong language in being right.

I reckon that Bluemoon would be a much more settled place if fewer people thought of themselves as the only source of an opinion of value, and felt confident and able enough to agree with the contrary thoughts of others, perhaps even accepting they have merit and amending a viewpoint accordingly?

My opinion on Balo' is therefore summed up as - lets get him out of the limelight as he apparently (and his own pleas prove this) needs help, he is not best served being thrust into the fray in his current mental state.

If he needs to find another club to succeed rather than remain at City, where he is on a path of apparent self-destructive behaviour then I wish the lad well.

However if he wants to stay at City he has to show he is ready for that challenge and my eyes tell me he isn't, he is too fragile mentally. So he needs to be shown that he has no right to play for City until he changes for the better.

It may well be that he does not have the capacity to see that for himself but others at the club will be, and should take the appropriate action rather than taking a risk with the massive potential that Balo' obviously possesses.

The quote you emboldened -


Was maybe poorly stated or maybe taken the wrong way. What I meant to say remains the same however.

If he is put into action again I fear he may well (i think very likely to) continue to behave irrationally and it could worsen his future prospects at City (maybe that is part of his plan, to get back to Italy?) and so I think he should be rested and given the help he so clearly needs.

I know you have a lot invested in Balo', you like him, you think he will be a great player but i also wonder if that has blinded you a little to what I was saying about saving his career in the long term rather than getting him to perform NOW.

But as wel balanced grown ups we can debate that can't we?
 
I say give him a chance. Players take a while to settle in anywhere new. He's had his problems (young still) and if managed and he applies his talent in the right way, I think could be a star in the making for us.
 
JHumph21 said:
15 Starts 10 goals - 0.75 Goals per game
9 Yellow Cards 2 Reds

For a 20 year old kid who is supposedly not an out and out striker in a new country who has been out injured for a large portion of the season is something special.

Cristiano Ronaldo - Man Utd at 20 - 50 Starts 9 goals - 0.2ish Goals per game 10YC 1 RC
Nicolas Anelka - Arsenal at 20 - 45 Starts 18 goals - 0.4 Goals per game
Michael Owen - Liverpool 20 - 30 Starts 12 goals - 0.4 Goals per game
Wayne Rooney - Man Utd at 20 - 48 Starts 19 Goals - 0.39 Goals per game 12 YC 1 RC
Alan Shearer - Southampton at 20 - 48 Starts 14 Goals - 0.3 Goals per game

Granted he has the predisposition at the minute to implode, but I do not for one second doubt that he will grow out of this and when he does hopefully its us who has something special on our hands.

Mancini is also doing a great job and the club is for once heading in the right direction, cheer up blues this isn't football manager and becoming the worlds greatest club side is not going to happen overnight lets enjoy the ride hiccups and all.

Heres hoping Super Mario smashes 3 in against the scum and all is forgotten :)

top post mate.

he is only 20 ffs! some fans on here have got inpatient and demand things stright away!
 
greeny-ctid said:
JHumph21 said:
15 Starts 10 goals - 0.75 Goals per game
9 Yellow Cards 2 Reds

For a 20 year old kid who is supposedly not an out and out striker in a new country who has been out injured for a large portion of the season is something special.

Cristiano Ronaldo - Man Utd at 20 - 50 Starts 9 goals - 0.2ish Goals per game 10YC 1 RC
Nicolas Anelka - Arsenal at 20 - 45 Starts 18 goals - 0.4 Goals per game
Michael Owen - Liverpool 20 - 30 Starts 12 goals - 0.4 Goals per game
Wayne Rooney - Man Utd at 20 - 48 Starts 19 Goals - 0.39 Goals per game 12 YC 1 RC
Alan Shearer - Southampton at 20 - 48 Starts 14 Goals - 0.3 Goals per game

Granted he has the predisposition at the minute to implode, but I do not for one second doubt that he will grow out of this and when he does hopefully its us who has something special on our hands.

Mancini is also doing a great job and the club is for once heading in the right direction, cheer up blues this isn't football manager and becoming the worlds greatest club side is not going to happen overnight lets enjoy the ride hiccups and all.

Heres hoping Super Mario smashes 3 in against the scum and all is forgotten :)

top post mate.

he is only 20 ffs! some fans on here have got inpatient and demand things stright away!


Good stats and a fair point made about his age and inexperience in the Premier League, although the disciplinary record doesn't really stack up in his favour, does it?
 
Mancini's latest from today -

Blues boss Mancini also claimed he has no regrets over the signing of controversial striker Mario Balotelli, but did state he wants to see an improvement in the striker's conduct.

The Italian international, signed from Inter Milan for £24 million, has been in the headlines for his off-field behaviour more than his contribution on the pitch.

"I do not regret signing him," said Mancini. "Mario is a fantastic player. He is a 20-year-old, so it is usual his behaviour is not good enough.

"I understand this situation very well. Playing here could be a fantastic experience for him. He has started 15 games and scored 10 goals. But he has to improve his behaviour.
"Now, everything Mario does is big news. I have spoken to him. What I said will remain private but I hope he can change his behaviour," Mancini added.
 
EddieR said:
greeny-ctid said:
top post mate.

he is only 20 ffs! some fans on here have got inpatient and demand things stright away!


Good stats and a fair point made about his age and inexperience in the Premier League, although the disciplinary record doesn't really stack up in his favour, does it?

Agreed, and I dont think anyone would argue that his disciplinary record is what needs work but that is resolvable.

Couple more stats I found

Lionel Messi - Barcelona at 20 - 40 Starts 14 goals 0.4 Goals per game
Didier Drogba - Le Mans at 20 - 32 Starts 7 goals 0.2 Goals per game
....
Real Ronaldo - Barcelona at 20 - 49 Starts 47 goals 0.95 Goals per game

Dammit! Marios useless and has no chance of ever coming good ;)
 
fbloke said:
Damocles said:
He posted both sides, so he'll claim a victory in the future either way.

The emboldened quote is so unbelievably arrogant, that I'm actually struggling to believe that he has written it.

There was no intention to sound arrogant but as this thread has developed my opinion has been challenged and I wanted to make it clear that I in no way intend to gloat about Balo's situation.

As for posting both sides you could construe it that way, but my original post on the thread was perhaps a tad harsh and as the conversation progressed it softened when other factors were brought forwards.

You see Dam' I dont have to take a position and be immovable, perhaps ignoring the facts as they are laid out in front of me. I am able to deal with, on occasion being wrong but also being right but using the wrong language in being right.

I reckon that Bluemoon would be a much more settled place if fewer people thought of themselves as the only source of an opinion of value, and felt confident and able enough to agree with the contrary thoughts of others, perhaps even accepting they have merit and amending a viewpoint accordingly?

My opinion on Balo' is therefore summed up as - lets get him out of the limelight as he apparently (and his own pleas prove this) needs help, he is not best served being thrust into the fray in his current mental state.

If he needs to find another club to succeed rather than remain at City, where he is on a path of apparent self-destructive behaviour then I wish the lad well.

However if he wants to stay at City he has to show he is ready for that challenge and my eyes tell me he isn't, he is too fragile mentally. So he needs to be shown that he has no right to play for City until he changes for the better.

It may well be that he does not have the capacity to see that for himself but others at the club will be, and should take the appropriate action rather than taking a risk with the massive potential that Balo' obviously possesses.

The quote you emboldened -


Was maybe poorly stated or maybe taken the wrong way. What I meant to say remains the same however.

If he is put into action again I fear he may well (i think very likely to) continue to behave irrationally and it could worsen his future prospects at City (maybe that is part of his plan, to get back to Italy?) and so I think he should be rested and given the help he so clearly needs.

I know you have a lot invested in Balo', you like him, you think he will be a great player but i also wonder if that has blinded you a little to what I was saying about saving his career in the long term rather than getting him to perform NOW.

But as wel balanced grown ups we can debate that can't we?

fbloke, you are so so wrong.
 
WNRH said:
fbloke said:
There was no intention to sound arrogant but as this thread has developed my opinion has been challenged and I wanted to make it clear that I in no way intend to gloat about Balo's situation.

As for posting both sides you could construe it that way, but my original post on the thread was perhaps a tad harsh and as the conversation progressed it softened when other factors were brought forwards.

You see Dam' I dont have to take a position and be immovable, perhaps ignoring the facts as they are laid out in front of me. I am able to deal with, on occasion being wrong but also being right but using the wrong language in being right.

I reckon that Bluemoon would be a much more settled place if fewer people thought of themselves as the only source of an opinion of value, and felt confident and able enough to agree with the contrary thoughts of others, perhaps even accepting they have merit and amending a viewpoint accordingly?

My opinion on Balo' is therefore summed up as - lets get him out of the limelight as he apparently (and his own pleas prove this) needs help, he is not best served being thrust into the fray in his current mental state.

If he needs to find another club to succeed rather than remain at City, where he is on a path of apparent self-destructive behaviour then I wish the lad well.

However if he wants to stay at City he has to show he is ready for that challenge and my eyes tell me he isn't, he is too fragile mentally. So he needs to be shown that he has no right to play for City until he changes for the better.

It may well be that he does not have the capacity to see that for himself but others at the club will be, and should take the appropriate action rather than taking a risk with the massive potential that Balo' obviously possesses.

The quote you emboldened -



Was maybe poorly stated or maybe taken the wrong way. What I meant to say remains the same however.

If he is put into action again I fear he may well (i think very likely to) continue to behave irrationally and it could worsen his future prospects at City (maybe that is part of his plan, to get back to Italy?) and so I think he should be rested and given the help he so clearly needs.

I know you have a lot invested in Balo', you like him, you think he will be a great player but i also wonder if that has blinded you a little to what I was saying about saving his career in the long term rather than getting him to perform NOW.

But as wel balanced grown ups we can debate that can't we?

fbloke, you are so so wrong.

You're probably right there are far too may tits on here ;-)
 

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