Barry on ice

[Salford_Blue]

A few half decent performances in NO WAY make up for his general poorness. He makes more mistakes and gives the ball away more than any other regular starter, this could probably be the last season in which he plays a major role.

Against spurs he was under very little pressure, it wasn't a tough game for him so he wasn't found out.

Oh dear...without repeating yet again, he is the first name on the teamsheet in a team chosen by Fabio Capello, who has won everything several times over at domestic level.

Does that not tell you that your observation is wrong on every level?

Everyone has their own opinion.
Mine is totally opposite to yours in that behind Kompany, he is the best player at the club. Love him to bits.

 

[leewill31]

Barry fan club out in force today. Once De Jong is fit he will take Barrys place more combative in midfield and we will need that if we continue with Nasri and Silva.

hahaaha for two seasons you have been saying this!

I will continue saying it as Barry isnt consistant. We see him start the season off well all the time since he came to the club he has always started the season well. Then 5 games in he goes to 1 good game every 5 games he can never stay consistant enough to keep his place with these signings. Whats the old pharse One swallow doesnt make a summer this pharse and Barry goes hand in hand for me.

barry out of all the players is by far the most consistent in the job he is given if he does more its an even bigger bonus to the team.

you never seem to get barry and why he is picked game in game that's your propagative blinded imho but why should you break a habit of a life time! :)

 

[Dax777]

Its quite simple that De Jong will have to wait his turn

Hmmm! Interesting view.

A year ago I would have laughed at that idea, but Barrys improvement this season has been huge. He does seem to have an extra yard of pace and is really zipping his passes at pace into the feet of serge, dave and Samir(against spuds).
As much as I love Nige, he has to be able to fit into the way that Bobby wants us to play , and at the moment I think Barry fits into it better. Just think that he complements yaya better, not that he's a better player

I go "hmmm"coz last year when the boo birds wanted his head, and claimed he was killing the offense by being a poor midfielder, I made an argument that we could just as well claim De Jong is not adding enough and drop him for a DM who would add more.

At the time I was cursed to high heaven, unfortunatley Sabster (who particularly dislikes De Jong) joined me, and I doubt it helped. As many hate his view on De Jong. I have been saying it for over a year now. De Jong has his qualities and will be essential to our eventual success. But he is not a certainty.

If you go to the transfer forum, I told Andouble if we got Samir and Wesley (there was a thread about getting them both) that De Jong will struggle to start most games.

Folks see what he does defensively, and go Wow! But sometimes they forget part of the reason he gets to do that fantastic Defensive work is because we are not as effective holding it.

There is no defense better than controlling the ball. It is had for the other team to attack you when they don't have the ball.

Barca played a 3133 against Villareal. Busquet Macherano and a leftback were the 3 CDs. Think about that for a second. Not only was there no destroyer DM, there was no CD. Why? Their defense was in their offense!

 

[city diehard]

Always been a fan of Gareth Barry fan; loved him when he first joined us and was one of our best players when he joined; subtle but class at the same time and it seem he has re ignited that same playing style. Keep him in the team always preferred him to milner whenever he played and so De one you are class my friend but Barry has better passing ability then both De Jong and Yaya.

 

[leighton]

hahaaha for two seasons you have been saying this!

I will continue saying it as Barry isnt consistant. We see him start the season off well all the time since he came to the club he has always started the season well. Then 5 games in he goes to 1 good game every 5 games he can never stay consistant enough to keep his place with these signings. Whats the old pharse One swallow doesnt make a summer this pharse and Barry goes hand in hand for me.

barry out of all the players is by far the most consistent in the job he is given if he does more its an even bigger bonus to the team.

you never seem to get barry and why he is picked game in game that's your propagative blinded imho but why should you break a habit of a life time! :)

Lee I guess we will never argee on Barry. Lets be honest that last game Spurs were shit didnt want to do anything and even you or myself would of looked good in that City team in Barrys role. I have never rated the guy from the start as everyone on here knows. Just my view.

 

[leewill31]

I will continue saying it as Barry isnt consistant. We see him start the season off well all the time since he came to the club he has always started the season well. Then 5 games in he goes to 1 good game every 5 games he can never stay consistant enough to keep his place with these signings. Whats the old pharse One swallow doesnt make a summer this pharse and Barry goes hand in hand for me.

barry out of all the players is by far the most consistent in the job he is given if he does more its an even bigger bonus to the team.

you never seem to get barry and why he is picked game in game that's your propagative blinded imho but why should you break a habit of a life time! :)

Lee I guess we will never argee on Barry. Lets be honest that last game Spurs were shit didnt want to do anything and even you or myself would of looked good in that City team in Barrys role. I have never rated the guy from the start as everyone on here knows. Just my view.

i keep seeing this about spurs and how shit they were is it not the fact that we were that much better man for man we dominated spurs and approached the game so much differently to the previous season and game against them,you may not see another side do what we did against them this season as we did says more about us than them and barry was vital to that!

 

[jay_mcfc]

Just as I'm starting to think he should be dropped from the team he puts a run of 6/7 games together where he is untouchable. He's been tremendous this season and long may it continue. The past two games without De Jong especially. With Milner and now potentially Hargreaves in the mix Mancini has some big decisions to make but then with the number of games we hope to have bring it on I say.

 

[leighton]

barry out of all the players is by far the most consistent in the job he is given if he does more its an even bigger bonus to the team.

you never seem to get barry and why he is picked game in game that's your propagative blinded imho but why should you break a habit of a life time! :)

Lee I guess we will never argee on Barry. Lets be honest that last game Spurs were shit didnt want to do anything and even you or myself would of looked good in that City team in Barrys role. I have never rated the guy from the start as everyone on here knows. Just my view.

i keep seeing this about spurs and how shit they were is it not the fact that we were that much better man for man we dominated spurs and approached the game so much differently to the previous season and game against them,you may not see another side do what we did against them this season as we did says more about us than them and barry was vital to that!

Lee they never got into our midfield and got at our players. I cant remember much tackling from Kranjar , Modric , Van Der Vaart or Huddlestone when he came on. No one out of them want to win the ball back apart from when there kid came on Livermore he tried to get at our midfield. When we play them at home they will be a hell of a lot better and will put more pressure on our players in midfield. If they dont Spurs will struggle this season.

 

[Josh Blue]

i'm sorry he's the biggest most over rated pile of shit to ever play in the champions league along with lucas leiva. however he has been in good form he's playing AS HE SHOULD BE now.

Must be a rag? Barry has been outstanding and Lucas was voted Liverpool's player of the season last season. Both very smart footballers.

 

[Bellers_a_hero]

Oh my days, why has it taken someone so long to realise the shift Barry puts in for City. Since about the last 5 games he played in last season and every game this season he has been amazing! Covers for players, wins tackles, creates chances and does all this so secretly.
Just because he doesn't score loads of goals, has the flair of Silva, crunching tackles of De Jong or steaming runs of Yaya. He fits into our team perfectly and on his recent form should be in the starting line up definitley - whether its De Jong that loses his place or Yaya Toure I don't know but one of them needs to!

 

[matt99is]

Gareth Barry truly is poor, you can keep saying "he's the first name on the team-sheet" and "he puts in a good shift". Trying hard and being a model professional doesn't make him a good player. The fact is he isn't good enough and I can't wait until we see the back of him.

The only reason he played against spurs was because of De Jongs injury, and the moment he is back Barry will be benched.

It really bemuses me why so many people on this forum love him so much.

PS I'm actually starting to think you are all winding me up!!

 

[Zin 'messiah' Zimmer]

mirror image of the thread of after the liverpool home game last year - barry is belting 'Squad' player, imo to even suggest he start games ahead of de jong is wrong on so many levels, he isnt consistent enough to command that role and he certainly won't be as effective when we need to retain the ball in europe - i'm all for his performances of late, but don't get giddy.

 

[Dax777]

Oh my days, why has it taken someone so long to realise the shift Barry puts in for City. Since about the last 5 games he played in last season and every game this season he has been amazing! Covers for players, wins tackles, creates chances and does all this so secretly.
Just because he doesn't score loads of goals, has the flair of Silva, crunching tackles of De Jong or steaming runs of Yaya. He fits into our team perfectly and on his recent form should be in the starting line up definitley - whether its De Jong that loses his place or Yaya Toure I don't know but one of them needs to!

They will all rotate, as they should. Toure, De Jong, Milner and Barry. In those four we have our base on which the platform of creativity that is SIlva, Nasri, Aguero, Balotelli and Aj will be built to support Dzeko and Tevez as the main striker.

Now that is a team. :)

 

[leewill31]

mirror image of the thread of after the liverpool home game last year - barry is belting 'Squad' player, imo to even suggest he start games ahead of de jong is wrong on so many levels, he isnt consistent enough to command that role and he certainly won't be as effective when we need to retain the ball in europe - i'm all for his performances of late, but don't get giddy.

yet they play totally different positions when in the first 11 together and barry does not really take up the de jong role when he is out it is shared with yaya!

i thought we got passed this barry gets dropped when de jong comes in theory as proven for the past two seasons?

 

[greasedupdeafguy]

I like barry but hes not as good as some people make out and certainly not 1st name on the teamsheet

 

[Shaelumstash]

Gareth Barry truly is poor, you can keep saying "he's the first name on the team-sheet" and "he puts in a good shift". Trying hard and being a model professional doesn't make him a good player. The fact is he isn't good enough and I can't wait until we see the back of him.

The only reason he played against spurs was because of De Jongs injury, and the moment he is back Barry will be benched.

It really bemuses me why so many people on this forum love him so much.

PS I'm actually starting to think you are all winding me up!!

I'm not saying Barry is necessarily better than De Jong or Yaya, those two are possibly the best 2 players in the world in their position (D-mid and box to box midfielder)

However, Barry gets dogs abuse from some City fans and he really doesn't deserve it. He's one of those players that you don't notice when he's there, but you miss him when he's not. Take the Charity Sheild for example when he didn't start, our retention of the ball in midfeild was appalling, and was the major reason we got outplayed and deserved to be beaten.

Milner is a far better athlete, much more strength, pace and energy. I would pick Barry over him every single time though because he uses the ball so much better, makes much better decisions and is a far more intelligent player.

 

[TrueBlueSte]

couldn't agree more, gives us great balance in midfield, works hard all game and was up there to lay the ball off for dzeko's 4th, top player.

 

[schfc6]

I think his improvement in form is quite obvious for all to see. He seems fitter, leaner, stronger and even a little bit faster, he even seems to be moving the ball quicker, this was my main issue with him previously. He has upped his game a lot so far this season, the role he is playing suits him more and the amount of possession we have in the final third leaves him with a bit less to do. I think this competition for places theory that all the top managers go on about may just have some merit to it.
Would anyone be surprised if Mancini gets the best years out of ol' Gaz Baz? I wouldn't.

 

[Berkovic_blue]

A few half decent performances in NO WAY make up for his general poorness. He makes more mistakes and gives the ball away more than any other regular starter, this could probably be the last season in which he plays a major role.

Against spurs he was under very little pressure, it wasn't a tough game for him so he wasn't found out.

Prove it.

I think you are completely wrong. He is a very tidy player in possession and makes a lot of crucial interceptions and tackles. The reason he keeps getting picked is that he plays to a consistently good level, plays with discipline and is tactically very aware. Managers love him, SOME fans constantly say he's crap. I think I'll trust Mancini on this one.

 

[leighton]

A few half decent performances in NO WAY make up for his general poorness. He makes more mistakes and gives the ball away more than any other regular starter, this could probably be the last season in which he plays a major role.

Against spurs he was under very little pressure, it wasn't a tough game for him so he wasn't found out.

Prove it.

I think you are completely wrong. He is a very tidy player in possession and makes a lot of crucial interceptions and tackles. The reason he keeps getting picked is that he plays to a consistently good level, plays with discipline and is tactically very aware. Managers love him, SOME fans constantly say he's crap. I think I'll trust Mancini on this one.

Discipline went out the window at Spurs he picked up a booking for a late tackle. He has a knack of giving away stupid frees and picking up bookings from them.