Basic manners, keyboard warriors etc

[aguero93:20]

This thread could end up bigger than the pogba thread because both damo and roamin seem to insist on having the last word despite it being plainly obvious that their debate ran its course quite a while ago and is just pointless tit for tat posts

The silly cunts will be up all night at this, leave them to it.

 

[Ric]

I think Roaminblue is right about this. The moderation on here is very different from when I first joined. It used to be a lot more tongue in cheek, there was a lot more banter. Now (perhaps because of the number of posters) it seems to be much more confrontational. A bit more like policing than moderating.

That's fine, Ric decides how this place runs and if he wants it moderated that way that is his privilege and it is the posters privilege to do one elsewhere.

If that is the style then as roamin says, the moderators have to have impeccable standards or they will end up like robocops and will crush the spirit that BM has always had.

Shame

I certainly don't advocate confrontational modding; quite the opposite in fact.

I don't agree though that moderators should be held accountable to different standards to other posters. I don't think it's fair when people say they should act differently.

They are posters themselves first and foremost, and moderators second. As such they should enjoy the same freedoms that all other posters have (obviously on the flip side that means they should adhere to the same rules too).

 

[Ronnie the Rep]

I certainly don't advocate confrontational modding; quite the opposite in fact.

I don't agree though that moderators should be held accountable to different standards to other posters. I don't think it's fair when people say they should act differently.

They are posters themselves first and foremost, and moderators second. As such they should enjoy the same freedoms that all other posters have (obviously on the flip side that means they should adhere to the same rules too).

Well, it's your board so it should work how you want. Are you saying that you don't set moderating rules? Maybe that would have worked when the board was much smaller but surely not now

 

[Yaya_Tony]

I disagree. This place doesn't have the same atmosphere as it used to have. It's a much harsher place and not as enjoyable. It's nothing to do with all being blues.

I remember as I'm sure others do about arguing the toss over mancini on the main forum. And still sharing a pint with people I argued with after. No big deal. If you find it harsher now, that's again on you the individual. You're not being forced into feeling that way.

 

[Ric]

Well, it's your board so it should work how you want. Are you saying that you don't set moderating rules? Maybe that would have worked when the board was much smaller but surely not now

No, I do set the moderating rules in as much as there are set rules and guidelines for the moderators to follow. Obviously they're not automatons though, so different mods have different personalities, tolerance levels etc.

 

[Damocles]

I disagree. This place doesn't have the same atmosphere as it used to have. It's a much harsher place and not as enjoyable. It's nothing to do with all being blues.

As PB said earlier, the posts about how the forum used to be better were better when we first joined

 

[Ronnie the Rep]

As PB said earlier, the posts about how the forum used to be better were better when we first joined

You mean posters moaned in a more enjoyable way?

 

[Damocles]

You mean posters moaned in a more enjoyable way?

No, it's that people have always said that the forum was better in the past. Some people think it's due to rose tinted glasses. I have always disagreed with this and thought that when a forum reaches a critical mass then it enter an Eternal September which never ends

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September

In Usenet slang, Eternal September (or the September that never ended)[1] began in September 1993,[2] the month that Internet service provider America Online began offering Usenet access to its tens of thousands, and later millions, of users. Before then, Usenet was largely restricted to colleges and universities. Every year in September, a large number of incoming freshmen would acquire access to Usenet for the first time, and would take some time to become accustomed to Usenet's standards of conduct and "netiquette". But, after a month or so, these new users would either learn to comply with the networks' social norms or simply tire of using the service. However, for the existing userbase, the influx of new users from September 1993 onwards was a new and endless manifestation of the phenomenon.

This was in part because the new internet service providers such as AOL made little effort to educate their users about Usenet customs, but it was also because of the large-scale and seemingly endless intake of new users. Whereas the regular September freshman influx would quickly settle down, Usenet's existing culture did not have the capacity to integrate the sheer and endless number of new users, and so they overwhelmed the network's existing social norms.[3]

Since then, the rise in popularity of the Internet has brought on a constant stream of new users. Thus, from the point of view of the pre-1993 Usenet users, the influx of new users in September 1993 never ended. The term was used by Dave Fischer in a January 26, 1994, post to alt.folklore.computers, "It's moot now. September 1993 will go down in net.history as the September that never ended."[4]

A bit like January in gyms

 

[Ronnie the Rep]

No, I do set the moderating rules in as much as there are set rules and guidelines for the moderators to follow. Obviously they're not automatons though, so different mods have different personalities, tolerance levels etc.

Fair enough, as I said, it's your forum I just think that there is a lot less tolerance than there used to be. It may be as I said earlier, that there are now so many members that relationships, conversations etc are a lot less personal and there is therefore a lot less banter. I used to post on an Arsenal forum as I work in north London with about 80,000 members. I gave up in the end because the mods would only accept positive posts about arsenal and all threads about any subject were about arsenal as well - great for them but not good for conversation. When I asked, one of them admitted that they had been forced into moderating like this because they had lost control for a while

 

[Damocles]

I used to post on an Arsenal forum