Battle Of Orgreave

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ctidcarl

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It's back in the news today after it was decided in parliament that there wouldn't be an inquiry.

When it happened I was a 14 year old lad, living in Norwich - so the impact and affect on me was minimal.

Over the last few years, I've read a good few things about The Battle Of Orgreave and I'm shocked at how intense it actually was.

Were any of you/your families involved??

Any other memories/thoughts from that day??

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Orgreave
 
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It's scandalous that the Government have announced there will be no Inquiry. After all the hyperbole that Teresa May spouted when she was elected, which indicated she would look after the interests of her citizen, the true side of her Government again reveals itself.
The Tories are shit scared of what may be revealed and the likely confirmation of Thatcher's involvement in strong arm and illegal tactics. On the news this evening, the BBC sought comment from 'Facist Bastard' Tebbitt to validate this decision.

I can't see the folks of Orgreave accepting this without a fight.
 
Don't really seen the point of an inquiry after all this time just make a few lawyers and judges that bit richer mining industries never going to be coming back I'm afraid, like the battle of Wounded Knee it was the end of an era the end of organised labour in productive industry.
 
Don't think it helps that May hinted about an enquiry when she was Home Secretary.
Sounds like a Tory cover up as some of the cabinet papers from the time will not be released for many years. Source - BBC.
 
i kne albert davy said:
Don't really seen the point of an inquiry after all this time just make a few lawyers and judges that bit richer mining industries never going to be coming back I'm afraid, like the battle of Wounded Knee it was the end of an era the end of organised labour in productive industry.
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I agree. A lot of bad things happened then, on both sides. Orgreave was the low point for the police. But it was nowhere near the scale of the injustice of Hillsborough and there just has to be a cap on the all of these historical inquiries.
 
Organised violence on a huge scale by a police force given a free hand to break the miners.

There followed a lull of several hours, during which many pickets left the scene. The coking plant had closed for the day and no more lorries were due to arrive. Those pickets that remained in the field were sunbathing or playing football and posed no threat to the police or the plant.[19] By now "massively outnumbering" the pickets, the police advanced again and launched another mounted charge. The police pursued the pickets out of the field and into Orgreave village where Clement ordered a "mounted police canter" which Hunt described as an "out-of-control police force [charging] pickets and onlookers alike on terraced, British streets.
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cibaman said:
I agree. A lot of bad things happened then, on both sides. Orgreave was the low point for the police. But it was nowhere near the scale of the injustice of Hillsborough and there just has to be a cap on the all of these historical inquiries.
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I think Orgreave, and Hillsborough, damaged the police rep in S Yorkshire. People's trust in the police has never recovered there.
 
It's an interesting one this. On one hand, there's no doubt the picket was intended to intimidate the lorry drivers if not completely make the plant inaccessible. One the other hand, there's no doubt the police were determined to ensure that didn't happen by whatever means possible and they intended a bigger show of force than the NUM could muster and one that was well-prepared for any eventuality. In the light of what's come out about Hillsborough, you'd now take their claim that they were acting in self-defence with a large pinch of salt.

But, unlike Hillsborough, there were no deaths and most of the charges brought by SYP against the pickets were thrown out of court. So I really don't see what purpose a public enquiry would serve. What does bother me though is that SYP, instead of openly and honetly admitting their mistakes back in 1989, were still actively seeking to deflect blame for Hillsborough onto the victims at the new inquests. That whole force clearly needs a good clean out from the top.
 
The worst of this is that twat Tebbitt has been back on the telly spouting shite.

It took enormous public and candle pressure to finally get the truth/some sort of truth from Hillsborough.

The Miners haven't got the backing to go anywhere with this unfortunately.
 
Heseltine admits killing a dog and the refusal to hold an inquiry disappears into the media background.

What a surprise.

There's still some prominent tories that were involved in Orgreave that are still alive. Like the Crypt keeper Tebbit and they will do everything in their power to prevent being implicated whilst alive.
 
Gelsons Dad said:
How long were the lefties in power? In all that time this wasn't important but now it is?
Shall we create a remembrance garden with a fountain too?
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Sadly we haven't had a left government since then, but the times are changing, the people are educating themselves and getting more knowledgeable through social media and new longer as reliant on right wing propaganda sheets like the nazi supporting daily mail
 
There were still at it in the Barnsley pie riots - charging horses down the concourse at Oakwell. And kettling city fans at Rotherham and then marching them to the ground arriving just before kick off - from the force that brought you Hillsborough.
 
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