Battle Of Orgreave

A mate of mine was bussed into Orgreave when he was a young copper. He said the miners in general were peaceful. The trouble flared up whenever Scargill and his thugs showed their faces.

There's a story he often tells of the time he saw Scargill up close. The commie twat had turned up with his heavies and began rabble rousing. The police were stood in line, shields ready, expecting things to get ugly. Scargill was gobbing off at the police with a megaphone. What he couldn't see was the crowd behind him were kicking off, so the police began to advance. Scargill turned to his back-up, only to see they were retreating, leaving him facing the police alone.

As the coppers advanced, they just went to go around him, but my mate noticed him getting knocked off his feet. Afterwards, he was talking to some of his colleagues, and one of them said that as he passed Scargill, the temptation was too great, so he stuck out his shield and knocked him for six. He always smiles when he tells this story, and says that he is still in touch with his colleague, but not a single court or enquiry could get him to name him. It's a pity really, because I'd like to buy him a pint!
 
Gelsons Dad said:
How long were the lefties in power? In all that time this wasn't important but now it is?
Shall we create a remembrance garden with a fountain too?
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It's always been important to them. It was important in 91 when SYP had to pay out £425,000 in compensation to 39 miners for assault, wrongful arrest, unlawful detention and malicious prosecution. In 2015 the independent police complaints commission said there was evidence of excessive violence and perjury by the police and the South Yorkshire Police and crime commissioner admitted that the police had been "dangerously close to being used as an instrument of state"

From wiki
Following the 2016 inquest verdict into the 1989 Hillsborough disaster, previously censored documents suggesting links between the actions of senior South Yorkshire Police officers at both incidents were published. This led to renewed calls for a public inquiry to be held into the actions of the police at Orgreave.

It's a whitewash, nothing more.
 
Lots of officers earned enough overtime during the strike to pay off mortgages or build extensions or move to a bigger house.
2 years earlier the members of the armed forces got £1 a day extra whilst fighting the Falklands War.
 
stony said:
It's always been important to them. It was important in 91 when SYP had to pay out £425,000 in compensation to 39 miners for assault, wrongful arrest, unlawful detention and malicious prosecution. In 2015 the independent police complaints commission said there was evidence of excessive violence and perjury by the police and the South Yorkshire Police and crime commissioner admitted that the police had been "dangerously close to being used as an instrument of state"

From wiki
Following the 2016 inquest verdict into the 1989 Hillsborough disaster, previously censored documents suggesting links between the actions of senior South Yorkshire Police officers at both incidents were published. This led to renewed calls for a public inquiry to be held into the actions of the police at Orgreave.

It's a whitewash, nothing more.
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Not forgetting this faux pas from the state broadcaster at the time
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-27893072
 
Orgreave was the states template for cover up of police incompetence and over reaction that ultimately cost 96 football fans their lives.
Thatcher wanted a battle, she wanted to put worker against worker and destroy communities.
She succeeded and is the reason the country is in such a sorry state today.
Long may she burn in hell .
 
Mustard Dave said:
A mate of mine was bussed into Orgreave when he was a young copper. He said the miners in general were peaceful. The trouble flared up whenever Scargill and his thugs showed their faces.

There's a story he often tells of the time he saw Scargill up close. The commie twat had turned up with his heavies and began rabble rousing. The police were stood in line, shields ready, expecting things to get ugly. Scargill was gobbing off at the police with a megaphone. What he couldn't see was the crowd behind him were kicking off, so the police began to advance. Scargill turned to his back-up, only to see they were retreating, leaving him facing the police alone.

As the coppers advanced, they just went to go around him, but my mate noticed him getting knocked off his feet. Afterwards, he was talking to some of his colleagues, and one of them said that as he passed Scargill, the temptation was too great, so he stuck out his shield and knocked him for six. He always smiles when he tells this story, and says that he is still in touch with his colleague, but not a single court or enquiry could get him to name him. It's a pity really, because I'd like to buy him a pint!
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Mr Shuck 'N' Jive
 
law74 said:
Orgreave was the states template for cover up of police incompetence and over reaction that ultimately cost 96 football fans their lives.
Thatcher wanted a battle, she wanted to put worker against worker and destroy communities.
She succeeded and is the reason the country is in such a sorry state today.
Long may she burn in hell .
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Utter drivel, as usual. That prick Scargill tried to use the miners to fulfil his political aims to bring down a democratically elected government. Fortunately he failed, but unfortunately for the miners, it speeded up the closure of pits.
 
Mustard Dave said:
A mate of mine was bussed into Orgreave when he was a young copper. He said the miners in general were peaceful. The trouble flared up whenever Scargill and his thugs showed their faces.

There's a story he often tells of the time he saw Scargill up close. The commie twat had turned up with his heavies and began rabble rousing. The police were stood in line, shields ready, expecting things to get ugly. Scargill was gobbing off at the police with a megaphone. What he couldn't see was the crowd behind him were kicking off, so the police began to advance. Scargill turned to his back-up, only to see they were retreating, leaving him facing the police alone.

As the coppers advanced, they just went to go around him, but my mate noticed him getting knocked off his feet. Afterwards, he was talking to some of his colleagues, and one of them said that as he passed Scargill, the temptation was too great, so he stuck out his shield and knocked him for six. He always smiles when he tells this story, and says that he is still in touch with his colleague, but not a single court or enquiry could get him to name him. It's a pity really, because I'd like to buy him a pint!
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However much of a prick Scargill was, celebrating the actions of a thug in uniform is a cunts trick. The police are there to protect us, not get in sly digs when no one is watching and then brag about it later. It's coppers like that who give them all a bad name.
 
stony said:
However much of a prick Scargill was, celebrating the actions of a thug in uniform is a cunts trick. The police are there to protect us, not get in sly digs when no one is watching and then brag about it later. It's coppers like that who give them all a bad name.
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It was indeed a ****'s trick but as Scargill was in fact a ****, it seems entirely appropriate.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
It was indeed a ****'s trick but as Scargill was in fact a ****, it seems entirely appropriate.
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How the fuck is it appropriate? Do you honestly believe it's appropriate for a policeman to hit someone because of his political beliefs? Fucking outrageous statement.
 
Mustard Dave said:
Utter drivel, as usual. That prick Scargill tried to use the miners to fulfil his political aims to bring down a democratically elected government. Fortunately he failed, but unfortunately for the miners, it speeded up the closure of pits.
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Rubbish. Scargill was wrong in the tactics he employed during the strike but he was absolutely right that the Government were planning wholesale closures of the mines. Not many believed him ( thinking only a small number of the most uneconomical pits would be closed), but he was proved to be correct. The strike didn't speed up closures, those pits we're doomed anyway.
 
Angry violent mob suppressed by a bit of heavy handed policing. Oh dear, what a shame, never mind.

I do not want a solitary penny of my tax money spent on a pointless enquiry about a non-event 32 years ago. Honestly this should not even have made the news today.

Can I just add that Andy Burnham is a joke.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Angry violent mob suppressed by a bit of heavy handed policing. Oh dear, what a shame, never mind.

I do not want a solitary penny of my tax money spent on a pointless enquiry about a non-event 32 years ago. Honestly this should not even have made the news today.

Can I just add that Andy Burnham is a joke.
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SYP had to pay out £425,000 in compensation to 39 miners for assault, wrongful arrest, unlawful detention and malicious prosecution. In 2015 the independent police complaints commission said there was evidence of excessive violence and perjury by the police and the South Yorkshire Police and crime commissioner admitted that the police had been "dangerously close to being used as an instrument of state"
 
stony said:
SYP had to pay out £425,000 in compensation to 39 miners for assault, wrongful arrest, unlawful detention and malicious prosecution. In 2015 the independent police complaints commission said there was evidence of excessive violence and perjury by the police and the South Yorkshire Police and crime commissioner admitted that the police had been "dangerously close to being used as an instrument of state"
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Who cares. I couldn't give 1/4 of a toss.
 
law74 said:
Sadly we haven't had a left government since then, but the times are changing, the people are educating themselves and getting more knowledgeable through social media and new longer as reliant on right wing propaganda sheets like the nazi supporting daily mail
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power to the people.. with raised clenched fist, (preferably with che type beret for effect)
 
Chippy_boy said:
Who cares. I couldn't give 1/4 of a toss.
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Sadly not enough people. Some people are selfish cunts and unless something directly involves them they couldn't give a shit. Personally I think police brutality and state sponsored violence is something we should all care about.
 
stony said:
Sadly not enough people. Some people are selfish cunts and unless something directly involves them they couldn't give a shit. Personally I think police brutality and state sponsored violence is something we should all care about.
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It was 32 years ago Stony. Move on mate.
 
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