Battle Of Orgreave

[MillionMilesAway]

I agree. A lot of bad things happened then, on both sides. Orgreave was the low point for the police. But it was nowhere near the scale of the injustice of Hillsborough and there just has to be a cap on the all of these historical inquiries.

I think Orgreave, and Hillsborough, damaged the police rep in S Yorkshire. People's trust in the police has never recovered there.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

It's an interesting one this. On one hand, there's no doubt the picket was intended to intimidate the lorry drivers if not completely make the plant inaccessible. One the other hand, there's no doubt the police were determined to ensure that didn't happen by whatever means possible and they intended a bigger show of force than the NUM could muster and one that was well-prepared for any eventuality. In the light of what's come out about Hillsborough, you'd now take their claim that they were acting in self-defence with a large pinch of salt.

But, unlike Hillsborough, there were no deaths and most of the charges brought by SYP against the pickets were thrown out of court. So I really don't see what purpose a public enquiry would serve. What does bother me though is that SYP, instead of openly and honetly admitting their mistakes back in 1989, were still actively seeking to deflect blame for Hillsborough onto the victims at the new inquests. That whole force clearly needs a good clean out from the top.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

The worst of this is that twat Tebbitt has been back on the telly spouting shite.

It took enormous public and candle pressure to finally get the truth/some sort of truth from Hillsborough.

The Miners haven't got the backing to go anywhere with this unfortunately.

 

[mat]

Heseltine admits killing a dog and the refusal to hold an inquiry disappears into the media background.

What a surprise.

There's still some prominent tories that were involved in Orgreave that are still alive. Like the Crypt keeper Tebbit and they will do everything in their power to prevent being implicated whilst alive.

 

[Deleted member 13905]

Organised violence on a huge scale by a police force given a free hand to break the miners.

the police loved a ruck back then.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Beanfield

 

[Gelsons Dad]

How long were the lefties in power? In all that time this wasn't important but now it is?
Shall we create a remembrance garden with a fountain too?

 

[kas_tippler]

Blame culture rears it's ugly head

 

[smudgedj]

How long were the lefties in power? In all that time this wasn't important but now it is?
Shall we create a remembrance garden with a fountain too?

We should for David Wilkie.

 

[law74]

How long were the lefties in power? In all that time this wasn't important but now it is?
Shall we create a remembrance garden with a fountain too?

Sadly we haven't had a left government since then, but the times are changing, the people are educating themselves and getting more knowledgeable through social media and new longer as reliant on right wing propaganda sheets like the nazi supporting daily mail

 

[Vic]

There were still at it in the Barnsley pie riots - charging horses down the concourse at Oakwell. And kettling city fans at Rotherham and then marching them to the ground arriving just before kick off - from the force that brought you Hillsborough.