Battle Of Orgreave

Whether the Tories gave the police authority or not, from what I have seen and heard, the officers revelled in it. Disgusting bastards.

Tories and Police officers are on the same level in my opinion. Never met one who I would trust.
 
urban genie said:
Comparisons are absurd, but Orgreave and Wapping before hilborough were instrumental in the atititude of the police during and after.
As part part of the then state sponsored encouragementof police forces to work without fear or public reprisal.
Shipping 7000 coppers from arround the country along with scab workers were acts of provacation, the fact a lot of officers were allowed to remove badge numbers (a practice GMP still use today unofficially) so not to be recognised is a disgrace in itself.
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There was Grundy's (I think it was) in the 70's or Grundigs? Photography place on strike for a year and than the local express newspaper or was it messenger newspapers and their action in Warrington. All similar police action. Eddie shah? Twat
 
crizack said:
Whether the Tories gave the police authority or not, from what I have seen and heard, the officers revelled in it. Disgusting bastards.

Tories and Police officers are on the same level in my opinion. Never met one who I would trust.
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Get a life dick head, yep any other job and everyone's an angle.
 
A good watch is still the enemy within, recount the whole strike not just Orgreave though here is the bfa film




No one can tell me the MET and Kent police were nowt but bastards during it, burning tenners and goading strikers about how much.money they were earning while people were going hungry, if ever the term ACAB was appropriate it was for them wankers.
 
Dennis Skinner makes a wholly relevant point through his comments in the House of Commons yesterday:

Dennis Skinner Labour, Bolsover
Why is it that 31 years is too long for an inquiry, yet 31 years is not too long for this Government to carry on hiding the Cabinet papers on the strike and to refuse to release them? Why is it so long, when we know that the Thatcher Government were going to close 75 pits and not 20? The truth is that this nasty party has now become the nasty Government, who are more concerned about preserving the Thatcher legacy than they are fighting for truth and justice.
 
And meanwhile, Arthur Scargill lives it up in his £2 million Barbican flat bought with his discount from Thatchers right to buy policy.
 
Everyone knows Orgreave was politically motivated - that much is obvious.

A proclamation of what are generally already regarded by those that care as facts is not going to change anything moving forward. Those mistreated at the hands of the police, wrongfully arrested and/ or maliciously prosecuted could and should have brought civil claims if they wanted the police to be accountable for its misconduct.

I don't see how an enquiry will help to "reset" the public's view of the police as some have claimed. It seems to be the main argument of the people that wanted an enquiry. What has an enquiry about police misconduct and corruption from 30 years ago got to do with the public's view of the police now? Will it really suddenly restore their trust in them once the truth comes out? I just don't see the connection between the two. If there was one it would also be in the current Government's interests to hold an enquiry. Hillsborough was different as once the decision of the earlier inquest had been set aside a new one was legally required.

I honestly don't think the current Government is that concerned about the reputation of the Thatcher Government. Could it really get much worse than it already is? It's already reviled by the working class. A finding that it gave orders to rough up a few miners is hardly going to change the current political landscape.

This issue seems to have become much more important to Labour in opposition than when it was in Government. It did nothing about Hillsborough or Orgreave when it had the opportunity. It continued the Hillsborough cover up. The reason being that, unlike now with Orgreave, there was no political capital to be gained at the time from doing otherwise.
 
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