BBC licence fee

[Mr Kobayashi]

It's the view amongst Brexity, Daily Mail, anti-woke, expert-threatened

Do you mean the people we used to succinctly refer to as arseholes?

 

[journolud]

It's perfectly simple, those who watch the BBC and like it's content should pay for it. If the BBC chooses to alienate a large section of it's audience that should and will come with a cost as those people stop supporting the license fee. A subscription model or the BBC disappearing completely will not bother me in the slightest because I never watch it these days, so see absolutely no reason why I should pay for it. This is becoming more and more the mainstream view amongst Tory voters, so I could see this happening in the not too distant future.

I’ve not read the whole thread so maybe I’ve missed it but how have the BBC chosen to alienate a large section of their audience? Has this been a deliberate policy decision that they have trumpeted?

 

[Fred_Quimby]

It's the view amongst Brexity, Daily Mail, anti-woke, expert-threatened types rather than "Tory voters", and it comes from the fact they have ( or had) intelligent analysts who called out their lies occasionally.

I'm a centrist who isn't wed to any party and I won't watch BBC news because it bends over backwards to appear by giving two sides to every story relating to the government even when only one side is sensible. That's because Patel and the likes are holding the sword of damocles over it to try to turn in into their version of Russia Today because they know they are governing on a web of lies and spin aimed downmarket.

Well said DD. The BBC is a world renowned institution for true broadcasting - hence the world service and it’s many foreign language services. The fact that some people do not watch/listen to it is small minded in the extreme. I see on here many, many comments on BBC programmes (MOTD etc) even if they are not liked people still watch them. BBBC radio is still very, very popular as is local TV, enough comments on here about Silly Sally. Regards funding, if the government still wants the foreign services then they should provide the money.

If you want convincing on the BBC model then go to the US and watch their ‘unbiased’ version of reporting. This is what will happen if you want to go down this path.

No surprise that Dorries highlighted it today to cover up for Liar Johnson.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

You are not free to opt out, when I moved into my new house it took them 1 week to send me an enforcement letter for if I didn't soon buy a license. That letter also said that if I can't prove that I am not using my TV and/or don't pay then they'll start legal action.

How many opt-outs include a potential visit from TV licensing to search your property to ensure you do not have the capability of watching TV?

Wrong.
Stop posting bollocks.
The law is clear.
It is not up to you to prove you are not watching live tv.
TV licensing cannot enter property without a warrant and a police officer in attendance and even then unless someone’s stupid enough to be actually watching live tv without a licence when they call no offence is committed owning a tv without a licence.

 

[Octavian]

It's the view amongst Brexity, Daily Mail, anti-woke, expert-threatened types rather than "Tory voters", and it comes from the fact they have ( or had) intelligent analysts who called out their lies occasionally.

I'm a centrist who isn't wed to any party and I won't watch BBC news because it bends over backwards to appear by giving two sides to every story relating to the government even when only one side is sensible. That's because Patel and the likes are holding the sword of damocles over it to try to turn in into their version of Russia Today because they know they are governing on a web of lies and spin aimed downmarket.

Partitioning people into groups isn’t healthy like that. I know Daily Mail readers who vote Labour and voted remain. I also just learned about this “woke” term and I don’t know anyone who thinks being woke is good, seems to be students mostly.

I personally don’t want to pay the fuckers because of their Utd bias but I think the rest of the BBC is fine, then again I’m not that political and certainly not that arsed about politics parties. Their shows are pretty good too, just started the Tourist.

It knocks me sick I’m spending £120 a year + for them to wank off the Rags at every opportunity.

 

[Mr Kobayashi]

Wrong.
Stop posting bollocks.
The law is clear.
It is not up to you to prove you are not watching live tv.
TV licensing cannot enter property without a warrant and a police officer in attendance and even then unless someone’s stupid enough to be actually watching live tv without a licence when they call no offence is committed owning a tv without a licence.

Exactly. Burden of proof always rests on the prosecuting party.

 

[Phil1]

Partitioning people into groups isn’t healthy like that. I know Daily Mail readers who vote Labour and voted remain. I also just learned about this “woke” term and I don’t know anyone who thinks being woke is good, seems to be students mostly.

I personally don’t want to pay the fuckers because of their Utd bias but I think the rest of the BBC is fine, then again I’m not that political and certainly not that arsed about politics parties. Their shows are pretty good too, just started the Tourist.

It knocks me sick I’m spending £120 a year + for them to wank off the Rags at every opportunity.

Bloody hell id love to see your posts on the political forum if you WERE into the subject! Haha!

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

yeah cos Sky love City for their £400 per year fee.

I do wish the beeb haters would just stop paying and fuckoff to Sky or cable or GB News whatever there is that is cheaper. Sick of their fkin moaning that everyone else shouldnt enjoy it. Just go watch something else. fkin dictator hitlers. Stop watching and then you'll stop moaning about fkin £120 per year (Compared with power charges being hikled by £2000k per year... nah £120 its enormous, cant afford it (as well as Sky)

 

[Octavian]

Bloody hell id love to see your posts on the political forum if you WERE into the subject! Haha!

I’m genuinely not and don’t pretend to know much.

 

[Phil1]

yeah cos Sky love City for their £400 per year fee.

I do wish the beeb haters would just stop paying and fuckoff to Sky or cable or GB News whatever there is that is cheaper. Sick of their fkin moaning that everyone else shouldnt enjoy it. Just go watch something else. fkin dictator hitlers. Stop watching and then you'll stop moaning

I think it’s more the paying for it whilst not watching that is the general bone of contention.
That’s the impression I get anyway. It doesn’t affect me personally as I don’t live in the U.K. anymore.

 

[Octavian]

yeah cos Sky love City for their £400 per year fee.

I do wish the beeb haters would just stop paying and fuckoff to Sky or cable or GB News whatever there is that is cheaper. Sick of their fkin moaning that everyone else shouldnt enjoy it. Just go watch something else. fkin dictator hitlers. Stop watching and then you'll stop moaning

Yeah but you at least have the choice to listen to Rag infested shite with sky… plus the games… which is the only reason I buy it.

If Sky just did highlights and punditry, I wouldn’t buy the ****.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

It's perfectly simple, those who watch the BBC and like it's content should pay for it. If the BBC chooses to alienate a large section of it's audience that should and will come with a cost as those people stop supporting the license fee. A subscription model or the BBC disappearing completely will not bother me in the slightest because I never watch it these days, so see absolutely no reason why I should pay for it. This is becoming more and more the mainstream view amongst Tory voters, so I could see this happening in the not too distant future.

what did you watch the Euros on then?

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Partitioning people into groups isn’t healthy like that. I know Daily Mail readers who vote Labour and voted remain. I also just learned about this “woke” term and I don’t know anyone who thinks being woke is good, seems to be students mostly.

I personally don’t want to pay the fuckers because of their Utd bias but I think the rest of the BBC is fine, then again I’m not that political and certainly not that arsed about politics parties. Their shows are pretty good too, just started the Tourist.

It knocks me sick I’m spending £120 a year + for them to wank off the Rags at every opportunity.

"Healthy?!?!?" What are you talking about? This is a forum, not a mother's meeting. The people marching around wanting to defund the BBC for not giving Nigel Farage a daily talk show and playing the national anthem every midnight are morons if you want my true opinion.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

I think it’s more the paying for it whilst not watching that is the general bone of contention.
That’s the impression I get anyway. It doesn’t affect me personally as I don’t live in the U.K. anymore.

You dont have to pay if you dont watch it. You can opt out perfectly easily. The arugment I hear is everyone else should stop watching it because of its lefty/righty/whatever politics. Not arsed, it delivers so much good content for more than half the price.

 

[Elbow beards]

It's a tricky one this, I can see both sides of the argument. I personally don't get my monies worth, I watch the news and odd drama, that's it,but my missus watches all sorts of shite on there, so as a household we get our monies worth. But occasionally there is content that I think you wouldn't get without a lisense fee. The cover of Glastonbury is second to none, for instance, and the ground breaking natural history programmes. Over all I'm happy to pay it. It hard breaks the bank, never even notice it going out to be fair.

 

[ZenHalfTimeCrock]

Spot on.
Last night on Anthony Sher night on BBC 4 they showed The 2014 RSC production of Henry IV part I. I saw it at the time and was well worth watching it again last night.

Back in Elizabethan times, economic misery was fueling populist anger, partisan rancour dominated, people knowingly accepted being lied to by their lords and masters, and there were outbreaks of bubonic plague to contend with.

So maybe it wasn't all that much different from now, in a way. And with his uncanny insight, Shakespeare, of course, shone a spotlight on the arrogant incompetence, the mendacity and viciousness of some of the rulers back then, as well as the militant stupidity of their admirers.

So it is maybe no surprise to find that Dorries wants to do away with an institution that has done so much to popularize the works of our greatest playwright.

Of course, subversive television is available from other sources these days. For example, David Simon seems to have no problems getting shows made that fall into that category. So I am not sure that what I have said is sufficient by itself to make the case for preserving the BBC.

Plus, I still haven't forgiven them for making that fucking documentary about Liverpool winning the Premiership.

On the whole, though, I would like them to carry on as they are now if that's possible, especially because it will piss off the right people, like Tory cunts (have recently decided that they are all cunts without exception), DM readers, twats who use the word 'woke', and other rubicund-complexioned types.

 

[Phil1]

You dont have to pay if you dont watch it. You can opt out perfectly easily. The arugment I hear is everyone else should stop watching it because of its lefty/righty/whatever politics. Not arsed, it delivers so much good content for more than half the price.

If you’re happy with it crack on and ignore the noise.
It won’t be scrapped anytime soon so nothings really going to change.
Just enjoy it for what you get out of it, mate.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Yeah but you at least have the choice to listen to Rag infested shite with sky… plus the games… which is the only reason I buy it.

If Sky just did highlights and punditry, I wouldn’t buy the ****.

I dont even understand that. Sky show nearly every one of our games with utd or lfc pundits. They talk shite every game, so do BT. Theyre shocking.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Growing up on a council estate, me and my mates had our heads turned by stuff like I Claudius, Dennis Potter plays, Monty Python, and Moviedrome.

So if the BBC had not existed, maybe we would have ended up like that vulgarian, flinty philistine Dorries, who is about cultured as the arse end of a pantomime horse, as well as being as thick as pig shit.

And the BBC is still capable of broadening horizons today, through the medium of foreign series like Spiral and the Hollow Crown adaptations of Shakespeare’s history plays.

Just recently watched an outstanding series on Japanese art and culture through the iPlayer, and not long before that a mesmerising version of King Lear.

In other words, the BBC is about more than just politics, regardless of what one thinks about the licence fee.

Absolutely. I got into computing because of the bbc. These political agenda twats just stop paying, dont watch it, stop moaning.

 

[blueparrot]

Without checking I doubt the basic Amazon, Sky , packs without sport and films costs about, £40 / month, so the £3.00 a month saving on the licence fee hardly scratches the surface.