Beatles documentary “Get Back”

does anybody know if the writing style for the beatles was the norm if so it must be a nightmare getting it out of your head on to paper then into words then putting it together then signing it ? i know noel gallagher used to say they come from your dreams or something else like the spirit of john lennon ?
I've heard Paul say in interviews that in the early days, up to 66 he used to drive to John's house to write. However after that they spent much more time in the studio (EMI gave them carte blanche) and he or John would bring a song in, like a demo and they would finish it off
 
Really interesting point and one that I also think about quite a lot. John’s solo output was patchy at best imo and his last 2 albums were littered with the kind of syrupy stuff that he once maligned Paul for. Agreed on Coming Up - great song and Paul said in an interview that when John heard it he decided it was time to make music again.
Paul has shown glimpses of his talent in the later years; Flaming Pie had some good stuff on it, but he’s never got close to the greatness of his past for me.
There’s a lot of my favourite musicians and songwriters who I could say this about to be fair -
Jimmy Page and Robert Plant
Stevie Wonder
Daryl Hall & John Oates
Aerosmith
Deep Purple
U2
Even Prince seemed to be losing the genius part of his game towards the end….

To be fair there are some older artists who are still fairly consistent -
Clapton
Iron Maiden
Springsteen

Maybe they just lose the ‘hunger’ to push themselves as they get older?
Yes pal, think I agree with you overall.
Fair points there, esp re Springsteen and Maiden to a degree, but as I think you are suggesting, that’s certainly the exception rather than the norm.
 
They weren't half a strange bunch of fellas. Strange humour (maybe it was of-the-time, or in-jokes?).

Paul seems the most dedicated and imaginative, feels like John isn’t coming up with anything fresh at the time (Paul “have you got any other new songs, have you been coming up with any new ideas for any” John “no that’s it”… Paul’s face was saying “oh, all on me then is it?”) and is only there to turn up late and have a laugh.

I think it’s clear that Paul and John didn’t take George seriously enough (All Things Must Pass went on to show they were wrong to do so!), he seems detached from the rest. I think they all seem a bit tired of each other at times, at others like they’re all going in different directions.

We saw very little of Epstein (maybe he’d taken a backseat at this stage?).

And what’s the fucking point of Yoko just sitting there, all…the…time, like a pet who can’t be left alone or a fucking cardboard cut-out John keeps bringing along with him? And what’s with all that wailing and shouting and chanting she does (with the band all playing along)… what a fucking weirdo she was and they were to have her along!

But when they pick up their instruments the class is there to see. The way songs just break out of them.
Great post.
Though tbh mate, I didn’t really expect to see much of Brian Epstein!
 
They weren't half a strange bunch of fellas. Strange humour (maybe it was of-the-time, or in-jokes?).

Paul seems the most dedicated and imaginative, feels like John isn’t coming up with anything fresh at the time (Paul “have you got any other new songs, have you been coming up with any new ideas for any” John “no that’s it”… Paul’s face was saying “oh, all on me then is it?”) and is only there to turn up late and have a laugh.

I think it’s clear that Paul and John didn’t take George seriously enough (All Things Must Pass went on to show they were wrong to do so!), he seems detached from the rest. I think they all seem a bit tired of each other at times, at others like they’re all going in different directions.

We saw very little of Epstein (maybe he’d taken a backseat at this stage?).

And what’s the fucking point of Yoko just sitting there, all…the…time, like a pet who can’t be left alone or a fucking cardboard cut-out John keeps bringing along with him? And what’s with all that wailing and shouting and chanting she does (with the band all playing along)… what a fucking weirdo she was and they were to have her along!

But when they pick up their instruments the class is there to see. The way songs just break out of them.
Even though I'm not a huge admirer of the song, I liked seeing McCartney's brain tick during the early creation of Get Back.

I am ever so slightly dubious that McCartney is coming out of this documentary so well (bit like MOTD highlights, is it a true representation of the full 80 hours of footage or is it a slant that suits Peter Jackson's portrayal)?

Maybe I am being too cynical (and I'm still only about an hour in)............
 
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i just thought John was the major part in the partnership but Paul was in control for that album and film

In the earlier days he was and you do still see them working together and ultimately, as Paul says in the film, they still considered John as the leader. Musically though, Paul’s influence was more dominant from Sgt Peppers onward.
 
Absolutely, and thanks for the reminder. I was only a young un at the time but I still remember being shocked to the bone by the news. A lot of life indeed.

Trying to maybe move it on in terms of discussion, do you also think it was a great musical loss too? We can never know for sure of course, but I kind of think about McCartney, and his output since John’s death, and it does make me wonder. I kinda have an age-thing about creative talent anyway, and that there is a peak age, after which it is harder to attain.

I’m struggling to find many Macca classics from the 80s onwards.
The last track of his that I absolutely love to bits would be this one, written in 79 I think.

A fabulous track :-))



Same with a lot of John’s stuff. Because they were so different in terms of writing and outlook, they tempered the self indulgence of the other when they were together. That and the competitive need to outdo each other is what led to the Beatles being so prolific as well as progressive over such a short period.

In the space of twelve months, they released help, rubber soul and revolver for example. Every single one of those albums is better than the “best of” of either of them for the next ten years (longer for Paul) after they left the band.
 
Even though I'm not a huge admirer of the song, I liked seeing McCartney's brain tick during the early creation of Get Back.

I am ever so slightly dubious that McCartney is coming out of this documentar so well (bit like MOTD highlights, is it a true representatio of the full 80 hours of footage or is it a slant that suits Peter Jackson's portrayal)?

Maybe I am being too cynical (and I'm still only about an hour in)............
Yeah I do wonder if he agreed to the release of all the footage but had a quiet word with Peter Jackson and asked him to take out all the bits where he looked too much of a twat :)

I read his autobiography and he even irritated me in that! But then again, he's spent pretty much his entire life in a bubble where he's been lauded and worshipped by some and I bet he's not used to being told "you're being a knob now, shut the fuck up!"
 

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