Bernardo Silva - 2017/18 performances

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After the french league the pace of the Premier League will take some getting used to , i wont judge him until next season but at the moment his performances have been underwhelming , but to be fair he hasnt played in his natural position which is a direct replacement for Merlin and the way dave is playing he will not get enough opportunites this season for a run of games. Technically very gifted and keeps the ball brilliantly and if he is playing and training with the best midfielder ever seen in this country in Merlin , he will learn plenty over the next few months.
 
jimmygrimblesboots said:
After the french league the pace of the Premier League will take some getting used to , i wont judge him until next season but at the moment his performances have been underwhelming , but to be fair he hasnt played in his natural position which is a direct replacement for Merlin and the way dave is playing he will not get enough opportunites this season for a run of games. Technically very gifted and keeps the ball brilliantly and if he is playing and training with the best midfielder ever seen in this country in Merlin , he will learn plenty over the next few months.
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I keep hearing about his technical brilliance but to be fair he didn’t really showcase it tonight. He looked one footed, easily dispossessed and took to many wrong options.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
I keep hearing about his technical brilliance but to be fair he didn’t really showcase it tonight. He looked one footed, easily dispossessed and took to many wrong options.
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he did run into blind alleys after beating two or three players , thought he lacked support at times when he was surrounded and didnt have an out ball , anothe rplayer if he got a run of game swould improve immensely , but who do you leave out ?
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
Yup, tend to agree now... what we don't want is sanchez stunting sanes development though, it has to be balanced!
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I'd suggest Marvin is right in thinking Sanchez doesn't have the speed or movement similar to Sane or Sterling, thus, likely to equally slow us down if we are trying to use him as a wide player.
 
Dax777 said:
I'd suggest Marvin is right in thinking Sanchez doesn't have the speed or movement similar to Sane or Sterling, thus, likely to equally slow us down if we are trying to use him as a wide player.
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The old conundrum when building a squad, do you want replacements or alternatives? I think if your coach is as great as Pep, and players are good enough to adapt, then you want as much quality and variety as possible, rather than for example Sane, and a less good version of Sane on the bench.
 
Playing wide does him no favours but on he's not doing himself any with his general play either. Lacks a right foot and a set of balls given the amount of 50/50s he backed out of tonight.

No doubt he'll flourish soon enough the more minutes he gets. Sane was dross until near enough the new year last season, I imagine once he gets a few appearances with a bit more freedom he'll look like the player we bought.

He has been rather poor so far this season.

As for the Sanchez stuff, you're as thick as champ if you think he'll A) Slow us down and B) Not be a better suited wide player than who we currently have to replace Sane or Sterling.
 
The current formation does not suit him in the wide role because he has limited freedom to cut in and play centrally.

4-1-2-3 formation: There are already by default 3 central midfielders in this formation, then with Delph playing alot more inside than outside it can at times become a 4 man midfield; this makes Bernardo cutting in unnecessary as the midfield is already packed; but Bernardo played RM for Monaco so what's the problem?

Monaco 4-2-2-2 formation: There are only 2 players in the midfield by default, this formation is like 4-4-2 with the wide players coming in. This works for Bernardo because the midfield only has 2 players, hence he can come in and be a key player in the midfield, it's not congested.
 
pee dubya said:
The old conundrum when building a squad, do you want replacements or alternatives? I think if your coach is as great as Pep, and players are good enough to adapt, then you want as much quality and variety as possible, rather than for example Sane, and a less good version of Sane on the bench.
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Sane and Sterling are hardly similar. But both possess tremendous speed. We can find another player with varying degrees of other qualities, but one who has that underlying similarity of immense pace.

If it were up to me, that third player will be Gelson Martin's. He is the kind of raw talent on the outside that can become unplayable under Pep.



We are at our best with 2 wingers flying at you off of deadly passes from the exquisite Quartet of Silva, Silva, Ilkay and Kevin
 
Dax777 said:
Sane and Sterling are hardly similar. But both possess tremendous speed. We can find another player with varying degrees of other qualities, but one who has that underlying similarity of immense pace.

If it were up to me, that third player will be Gelson Martin's. He is the kind of raw talent on the outside that can become unplayable under Pep.



We are at our best with 2 wingers flying at you off of deadly passes from the exquisite Quartet of Silva, Silva, Ilkay and Kevin
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I don't like bringing up things from the past, but I fully believe Sancho would be perfectly suited for us this season, he would have been the perfect option for the 3rd winger that I think Bernardo doesn't quite bring.

On Gelson Martin, he has the qualities on paper but I worry because he is a poor finisher. He would HAVE to improve that under Pep, now Sterling has so there is hope, but I would hope there are better options. This makes me think Barker would have been a good option or Patrick Roberts, would have been nice to have one of those stay this season for added winger depth.
 
WallyA said:
I don't like bringing up things from the past, but I fully believe Sancho would be perfectly suited for us this season, he would have been the perfect option for the 3rd winger that I think Bernardo doesn't quite bring.

On Gelson Martin, he has the qualities on paper but I worry because he is a poor finisher. He would HAVE to improve that under Pep, now Sterling has so there is hope, but I would hope there are better options. This makes me think Barker would have been a good option or Patrick Roberts, would have been nice to have one of those stay this season for added winger depth.
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I here you on Sancho. It saddened me as it became obvious that he was leaving. :(

As for Barker or Roberts, I think those guys have unique skills but not that pure speed. Certainly not Roberts.

Let me not be coy, Gelson Martin's is bloody raw, but no more so than Sadio Mane was 3 years ago. Actually, I'd say he is a bit more polished than Mane.

But he has that similar drive, energy and belief in his speed and skill that has propelled Mane. I have no doubt, he'd score for fun in a team like ours.
 
Dax777 said:
I here you on Sancho. It saddened me as it became obvious that he was leaving. :(

As for Barker or Roberts, I think those guys have unique skills but not that pure speed. Certainly not Roberts.

Let me not be coy, Gelson Martin's is bloody raw, but no more so than Sadio Mane was 3 years ago. Actually, I'd say he is a bit more polished than Mane.

But he has that similar drive, energy and belief in his speed and skill that has propelled Mane. I have no doubt, he'd score for fun in a team like ours.
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What about Inaki Williams? Just spit-balling other players.
 
He's definitely not a similar winger to Sterling and Sane. He doesn't have that explosive speed or very direct approach. Felt like a lot of the through balls to him last night expected too much of him. Pep has to decide whether he plays out wide and we change our approach a bit, or he fits in centrally.

As an example of allowing him to play wide and drift centrally, we could drop KDB even deeper when Bernardo has the ball and push the full back up to overlap:

EM

JS - NO - FD

KDB - F

KW - BS - DS - LS

SA​
 
People think he is the Silva replacement for me he a player who plays behind a striker.

The player who for me will be the Silva replacement came on with 5 mins to go Diaz whose ball retention and turn of the shoulder to go past players is Silvaess be great to see him and Foden to come through together.
 
if Pep choose to rest Sane or Sterling (or both), 442 diamond is the best formation.
all we need is signing another young attacking left back.
sign sanchez and left wing back on January, and we are set.

-------------- sanchez ----- kun
------------------- bernardo
------------- delph ------ gundogan
LWB ---------------- yaya ---------- danilo
---------- otamendi --- kompany
 
waspish said:
People think he is the Silva replacement for me he a player who plays behind a striker.

The player who for me will be the Silva replacement came on with 5 mins to go Diaz whose ball retention and turn of the shoulder to go past players is Silvaess be great to see him and Foden to come through together.
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I was thinking just that when I was watching the game.
One thing that sets Dave apart is his ability to take the ball on the half turn, see the next pass, and so create space instantly. Brahim showed that immediately last night. Bernardo seems to like to hold onto the ball a bit longer and whilst he seems fantastically skilful we lose momentum at the same time.
 
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