Best XI if everyone's fit?

I highly doubt De Jong will be in Mancini's 1st choice eleven as he is awful.

-------------Hart-------------------

Boateng----Kompany----Kolo/Luiz*------Kolarov
...
-----------------Yaya----------------------

-----------Barry--------Milner-------------

-----------------Silva--------------------

----------Balotelli/Ade-------Tevez
 
Sabster said:
I highly doubt De Jong will be in Mancini's 1st choice eleven as he is awful.

So awful he just started a World Cup final? I'd take De Jong over Barry any day. He's easily one of the best defensive mids in the world.
 
-----------------heart-----------
boateng--kompany--toure--kolarov
-------------toure----------------
milner-----tevez----silva--johnson
----------------mario------------
 
Polari said:
Sabster said:
I highly doubt De Jong will be in Mancini's 1st choice eleven as he is awful.

So awful he just started a World Cup final? I'd take De Jong over Barry any day. He's easily one of the best defensive mids in the world.

Easily one of the best????

Masherano made 3x as many tackles as him, and completed 2x successfull passes as him. Mascherano is in a different league.

Barry>>>>De Jong


Goals
Barry: 2
De Jong: 0

Assists
Barry: 7
De Jong: 0

Chances Created
Barry:45
De Jong:13

Successful Passes
Barry: 1346
De Jong: 1163

Ok so these stats show clearly that Gareth Barry is a much more technically gifted player. But we knew that already, surely NDJ will win comfortably on the defensive side of the game? But that is not the case:

Tackles won
Barry: 91
De Jong: 69

Tackles Lost
Barry: 22
De Jong: 27

Fouls Conceded
Barry: 64
De Jong: 44

Yellow Cards
Barry: 4
De Jong: 7

These last two stats, show that Barry is clearly the far more canny footballer, as he breaks up play (concedes a foul) far more ofter than De Jong but also far more subtly so he doesn't receive a yellow card.

Fouls Won
Barry: 56
De Jong: 44

You can not argue with these stats, they clearly show Gareth Barry is far better at breaking up the play than NDJ. And with that being true, in what way is NDJ better than Barry?? None whatsoever
 
Hart

Boateng
Kolo
Kompany
Kolarov

Milner
Y Toure
Barry

Silva
Tevez
Balotelli


But it's not really about the best 11 any more...

Expect Given(?), Richards, Bridge, Lescott, NDJ, Viera, Johnson, SWP and Adebayor, and the rest, to get plenty of games. There are a lot of them (hopefully) and players get tired, lose form and get injured.

Oh and don't forget the joker in the pack... Robinho.
 
Sabster said:
Polari said:
So awful he just started a World Cup final? I'd take De Jong over Barry any day. He's easily one of the best defensive mids in the world.

Easily one of the best????

Masherano made 3x as many tackles as him, and completed 2x successfull passes as him. Mascherano is in a different league.

Barry>>>>De Jong


Goals
Barry: 2
De Jong: 0

Assists
Barry: 7
De Jong: 0

Chances Created
Barry:45
De Jong:13

Successful Passes
Barry: 1346
De Jong: 1163

Ok so these stats show clearly that Gareth Barry is a much more technically gifted player. But we knew that already, surely NDJ will win comfortably on the defensive side of the game? But that is not the case:

Tackles won
Barry: 91
De Jong: 69

Tackles Lost
Barry: 22
De Jong: 27

Fouls Conceded
Barry: 64
De Jong: 44

Yellow Cards
Barry: 4
De Jong: 7

These last two stats, show that Barry is clearly the far more canny footballer, as he breaks up play (concedes a foul) far more ofter than De Jong but also far more subtly so he doesn't receive a yellow card.

Fouls Won
Barry: 56
De Jong: 44

You can not argue with these stats, they clearly show Gareth Barry is far better at breaking up the play than NDJ. And with that being true, in what way is NDJ better than Barry?? None whatsoever

Another great article on Zonal marking discusses the evolving role of central midfielders...


The deep-lying central midfield role has changed, even in the short seven years since Makelele’s move to Chelsea. The first factor to consider here is the decline in the use of classic number 10s. We’re seeing less of players in the Zinedine Zidane and Manuel Rui Costa mould, and more like Cristiano Ronaldo or Lionel Messi – who are capable of playing centrally, but generally start from wide roles. Without a designated central playmaker to stop, managers are less insistent on fielding a ‘tackler’ deep in midfield to stop him, and we have fewer simple ‘creator v destroyer’ battles.

Makelele himself was a tackler, a man described in a piece by Sam Wallace as a “ferocious midfield terrier”. Makelele clearly thought tackling was his main job, saying “You just enjoy it, you enjoy playing football, tackling, giving the ball. When you are small you have to tackle at the right moment. He might be tall, he might be strong but if you tackle at the right moment you’ll win it.”

This is now more difficult, because hard tackling continues to be stamped out through stringent refereeing; we increasingly see free-kicks given for ‘reckless’ challenges that would have been deemed fair just a decade ago. There’s a reason Javier Mascherano, an old-style tackling defensive midfielder, had the worst disciplinary record in the Premier League last season.

This is the first part of the story. The second part involves attacking tactics – now more than ever before based around short, quick passing in the final third. Therefore, intercepting is the new tackling. It’s not as spectacular, not as obvious, it won’t get the supporters on their feet (nowhere traditionally cheers a crunching tackle as much as English football terraces), but it’s just as useful. More so, in fact: by intercepting a pass to the player you’re marking, rather than tackling him when he gets the ball, you’re not risking a free-kick or a booking. You’re immediately in possession, whereas after a tackle, the ball can run away to an opponent. And there’s more chance of launching a quick counter-attack, and transforming defence into attack swiftly.

Full article here... <a class="postlink" href="http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/07/30/central-midfield-role/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/07/30/ ... ield-role/</a>

It's worth a read.
 
With that line up surely we are a good buy on SPorting Index's points spread at 74? Milner should be class also
 
Robinho have to start if he's a City player by Sept 1st. He is just to good to leave on the bench. Unless he's a complete ass, but i doubt he will...

I think it depends on the opponent...

This one for "easier" matches:

-----------------Hart
Boateng-----Komp---Kolo-----Kolarov
-------------Yaya---Milner
---Robinho-------------------Silva
-------------Balo---Tevez

- AJ would take Robbie's spot if something happens.
- Ade could start instead of Balo, or at least come in after 70ish minutes

This one if for more dificult matches:

-----------------Hart
Boateng-----Komp---Kolo-----Kolarov
----------------De Jong
---------Yaya-----------Milner
-----------------Silva
---------Robinho------Tevez

Bench:

Given
Zabba
Micah
Lescott (will start as long as Kolarov is out)
Barry
Vieira
AJ
SWP
De Jong/Balo (Depending on the game)
Ade
 

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