Best XI post 2008 takeover

Hmm, there does. Look how Fernandinho got done against Vinicius Jnr at the Etihad.

Sometimes wingers dribble past the defender, other times they don’t.

Its also fair to say that Zabaleta got far more cards for tactical fouls having been beaten with no chance of recovery.

Walker’s pace allows him two bites of the cherry, hence he can commit a bit more and know his speed can get him out of trouble too if needs be.
Yes, I'm not saying there are no scenarios where a defender might have misread a play. I'm saying the idea that having to tackle means you've misread the play is wrong. Because there are a ton of scenarios where there are no plays to be read. The winger gets the ball and attacks you as a fullback. You have 2 choices. Retreat or tackle. Often tacke is the correct choice.

I'm saying in those scenarios Zabba was better.

Agree on the tactical fouling point. Especially later in Zabaletas career. The last 2 years. But at his peak, especially just before folks realized he was actually better than Micah, that Zaba was phenomenal.
 
Yes, I'm not saying there are no scenarios where a defender might have misread a play. I'm saying the idea that having to tackle means you've misread the play is wrong. Because there are a ton of scenarios where there are no plays to be read. The winger gets the ball and attacks you as a fullback. You have 2 choices. Retreat or tackle. Often tacke is the correct choice.

I'm saying in those scenarios Zabba was better.
Fair enough. You can still block or intercept when the winger is trying to take you on though. That’s what Walker tries, more often than not.
 
Would you, the three seasons he was brilliant for us.

As a top city fan, you'll know which three seasons those were.
Thanks for your non-response. It doesn‘t answer the question, but it does show your snarkiness.

You’ve already ceded your point to Manc in London and changed the goals posts to best in England.
 
Fair enough. You can still block or intercept when the winger is trying to take you on though. That’s what Walker tries, more often than not.
But Zaba was better at intercepting and blocking. What makes Walker great, and why I have him as my best FB of this era is that he has the capacity to erase his errors and those of others. And when the other team has a speedy winger, you can comfortably play a high line with Kyle.


Tactically, Kyle was a more adaptable fullback. But I believe Zabba was a superior footballer.


We forget now, but Kyle used to have one brain dead error almost every 3rd game for a while. I won't exchange Kyle for anyone, not even peak Zabba. But I won't sell Zabba short either. That man was amazing in many ways.
 
But Zaba was better at intercepting and blocking. What makes Walker great, and why I have him as my best FB of this era is that he has the capacity to erase his errors and those of others. And when the other team has a speedy winger, you can comfortably play a high line with Kyle.


Tactically, Kyle was a more adaptable fullback. But I believe Zabba was a superior footballer.


We forget now, but Kyle used to have one brain dead error almost every 3rd game for a while. I won't exchange Kyle for anyone, not even peak Zabba. But I won't sell Zabba short either. That man was amazing in many ways.
Ok, Dax, well leave it there. They’re both great football players.
 

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