Big Tech censorship | Trump Banned from Twitter

Seeing as though my points are not welcome elsewhere in other threads, either through a lack of interest in the points I am trying to make or a because of the sheer hatred of Trump, i will have my own thread to discuss what i was saying in the hope somebody might look beyond Trump and see the point i was trying albeit clumsily to make.

Now I have found someone who gets it, somebody far more eloquent and far cleverer than i will ever be, so maybe if you listen to him you make take notice.



Thanks for raising this rascal. Some are so blinded by hate for trump they are missing this point. One that's hard to make without people mistakenly thinking you are fighting trumps corner it seems, but nawaz does brilliantly.
 
Let's suppose Twitter was around in the 1930's and Hitler, after becoming Chancellor, and Goebbels were on it every day spewing antisemitism and inciting hatred and violence against Jews. Or the Hutu leadership in Rwanda were doing the same to the Tutsi population. Or Serbs were tweeting hate against the Bosnian Muslims and saying what they were going to do. Etc.

Would you expect them to be banned? I'd hope they would be. The problem isn't that Twitter has banned someone it believes broke their rules. The problem is they don't ban enough people. You can't complain about a company enforcing its rules. You can however complain because you don't think they've enforced them enough or inconsistently.

Social media companies have an absolute responsibility to help avoid people preaching hatred and incitement, and seeking to foment unrest. Just like the police have the responsibility to maintain law and order.

There is no such thing as absolute 'free speech' and nor should there be.

Or imagine if the Beerhall Putsch was being planned on Twitter, or the Rwandan genocide was being coordinated by tweets.

That's what made twitter take a stand. They planted bombs in the Capitol building! And they are planning another attacking on the 17th (Q is the 17th letter of the alphabet) and they've taken Trump's decision to not go to the Inauguration as a green light to attack it.
 
The issues for me is that they don’t consistently apply those CoCs and also, as Merkel says, should they be creating them or following legislature.

I get the argument around they’re private platforms but ultimately, Facebook and Twitter are essentially the biggest forms of mainstream media there is nowadays. It’s a really tricky one.

Their house, their rules. Anyone who doesn't like them is free to leave.
 
Trumps free speech and that of his administration have not even been removed. Trump has a press office at his disposal, he can deliver a press conference on every major TV network within minutes if he wanted to. Nothing has ever stopped him from being able to get whatever tosh out that he has to say.

The silence at the moment is not because no-one will give him the platform, it's because right now he wants to prove a silent political point to fuel the fury within his support in the lead up to Bidens inauguration.

Twitter have the right and duty to moderate their platform, especially when said platform is used to facilitate an attack on the very country that it is based within....

If you don't want to get banned, don't be a tool!
 
Yeah . . . except the guy who started this thread said he wouldn’t even FUCKING VOTE since the choice was between Biden and Trump if he were American. How the hell does that help?

It steams the snot out of me when people like him pontificate aimlessly with no stake in the outcome nor — if he even had the chance to effect slight change — even take the opportunity to do so. It’s hypocritical chickenshit.
Now Mr Fog he's got a naughty eye that flickers
You ought to see it wobble when he's ironing ladies blouses
Mr Fog, what shall i do,
I'm feeling kind of limehouse chinese laundry blues
 
It's amazing how Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Carter, Thatcher, Blair, Churchill, Eden, Major, Heath etc. all managed to be successful politicians when Facebook and Twitter never even let them have accounts in the first place!

How did they survive this total deplatforming?
 
Dunno if this should be in this thread or widen the debate.

Watching MSNBC this morning and a former Republican senator was questioning his own beliefs stemming from the rise of Trump and how Corporate America got involved. He came to the conclusion this is 40 years of unchecked corporate power who belittled governments and their institution to the point they could be destroyed.
It definitely should be in this thread, because it is the point I have been trying to make all along.
 
Let's suppose Twitter was around in the 1930's and Hitler, after becoming Chancellor, and Goebbels were on it every day spewing antisemitism and inciting hatred and violence against Jews. Or the Hutu leadership in Rwanda were doing the same to the Tutsi population. Or Serbs were tweeting hate against the Bosnian Muslims and saying what they were going to do. Etc.

Would you expect them to be banned? I'd hope they would be. The problem isn't that Twitter has banned someone it believes broke their rules. The problem is they don't ban enough people. You can't complain about a company enforcing its rules. You can however complain because you don't think they've enforced them enough or inconsistently.

Social media companies have an absolute responsibility to help avoid people preaching hatred and incitement, and seeking to foment unrest. Just like the police have the responsibility to maintain law and order.

There is no such thing as absolute 'free speech' and nor should there be.
The very point Nawaz makes with the CCP and the Uighurs.
 
Let's suppose Twitter was around in the 1930's and Hitler, after becoming Chancellor, and Goebbels were on it every day spewing antisemitism and inciting hatred and violence against Jews. Or the Hutu leadership in Rwanda were doing the same to the Tutsi population. Or Serbs were tweeting hate against the Bosnian Muslims and saying what they were going to do. Etc.

Would you expect them to be banned? I'd hope they would be. The problem isn't that Twitter has banned someone it believes broke their rules. The problem is they don't ban enough people. You can't complain about a company enforcing its rules. You can however complain because you don't think they've enforced them enough or inconsistently.

Social media companies have an absolute responsibility to help avoid people preaching hatred and incitement, and seeking to foment unrest. Just like the police have the responsibility to maintain law and order.

There is no such thing as absolute 'free speech' and nor should there be.

That’s an interesting point. I suppose today we don’t think things like Nazism can happen, we’re all too smart for getting tricked like that, but that’s probably a load of bollocks and we aren’t
 

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