Big Tech censorship | Trump Banned from Twitter

I think it’s safe to say, in answer to your first post too, it’s global corporations that run the world & have done for the past 50yrs +

Used to be petrochemical companies with all the power to influence governments, but the tech sector is gaining more influence as the years go by.

Global corperations have been runing the world since the east india company and the other major powers of those time equivalent.

Half of the british empire was run by merchants and businessmen not the government
 
Global corperations have been runing the world since the east india company and the other major powers of those time equivalent.

Half of the british empire was run by merchants and businessmen not the government
I know nothing about the East India company, so I’ll have a Google tomorrow. Cheers for the history lesson bud :)
 
I don't think it is censorship, no one has a god given right to be allowed on any social media platform or should be if that platform deems they are not happy with your posts.

This isn't speakers corner and just because you are in a position of power should you get a free pass.


However if such SM platforms are going to set a precedence with this then they need to be consistant, that is where the problems lies, if the banning, suspending, freezing of accounts is bias and inconsistant, that is when concern should be voiced.

Act the twat, you're barred simple

you know what I consider censorship of opinion

The poll tax riots, May 68 in Paris, Hong Kong presently, Thailand presently, Nicuragua suppression of protest, Russia mass arrests and beatings of gay rights protesters the list could go on

People protesting against corruption and mistreatment by their government getting kettled , batton and cavalry charged, water cannoned beaten and arresred.

Not some dickhead getting banned off the internet, the fat fuck can prance around having rallies as much as he likes, he isn't censored, just treated as any shit stirrer on SM should be.
 
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Definitely tricky. The world has moved with such pace technologically speaking these past 10 years or so.

I thought we had freedom of press in the Uk where they could print anything the chief editor allowed them to as long as it wasn’t breaking laws or risking national security? So their house, their rules almost applies, although I am aware their is a regulatory body for the press in the UK

No 100% if the above is fact or just what I thought to be true, so I stand to be corrected by anyone with more knowledge than myself.

With Twitter the major difference is that things can only be removed retrospectively, unless you’ve already been banned.

Also, As It’s individuals posting & not employees on Twitter, again I’m struggling to think what could be brought in to legislate this, especially seeing as you don’t have to use your own details or name on any social media platform.

If you got to choose how social media was run, what would you like to see done differentlet?

God knows tbh, it was always going to be one of the biggest challenges we’d face with the rise of the internet.
 
Maybe i am not the fucking idiot that many think i am in taking the line i did.

My concerns are now on the BBC news at 10pm and it is now becoming a proper debate.
But the lines you took are “corporations are dangerous inherently” and “Trump and Biden are the same”, both of which touch on issues of which you appear to know little, not “we should debate whether social media has the right to censor individuals because that’s a slippery slope” which is a legitimate and interesting question.

And even on this thread where you tried to detach from the political Trumpian specifics — which was a good idea I think — time and time again you brought up the “bigger picture” which is why you are getting rightfully slated and well you should be (look at your second post on the thread).

If you start with “corporations are inherently bad” then there is no room for debate at all. So you started a thread for a clean forum for your own platform, not to truly discuss the issues, then?
 
Bob — agreed this is a better starting point. Here’s my comment for everyone else:

So you know how to solve this problem in a democracy? Vote for a representative in support of such regulation.

Oh, wait, sorry — you don’t have a choice of doing that because you read the party platform, eh? Neither wants to do it, eh? Oh dear, your choice is imperfect. My my. Welcome to Earth.

Then vote for the person more likely to be able to be amenable to and effect the change. Better than nothing, right?

Yeah . . . except the guy who started this thread said he wouldn’t even FUCKING VOTE since the choice was between Biden and Trump if he were American. How the hell does that help?

It steams the snot out of me when people like him pontificate aimlessly with no stake in the outcome nor — if he even had the chance to effect slight change — even take the opportunity to do so. It’s hypocritical chickenshit.

That aside, of course . . . we’ll be able to trust elected officials to independently staff and monitor such regulations instead of allowing the platforms to do it themselves, right? Because it’s more important that we worry about “what if” Zuckerberg runs than someone who actually is running, and winning. It would have been better, in fact, if we had left this regulation up to Trump and his appointed officials, don’t you think? Instead of Twitter . . . who is now probably permanently losing thousands upon thousands of customers for zipping Trump.

It’s hurting them financially to ban Trump. Think about that. And they did it anyway. Because they have a code. We agree to abide by the code to use the platform. We risk losing that privilege if we fail to abide by it.

Now, having said that, if America decides such platforms should not have to power to regulate content, via democratic vote for representatives supporting such a policy, I might be willing to suggest a special judicial branch become an arbiter of disputes in this regard (rights to expression on platform) as opposed to a general branch of the judiciary, the same way many other specialized industries have specific jurisdiction courts.

I used Merkel because she is arguing in good faith, I can agree or disagree but either way I can respect her position. Nawaz is a UK Alex Jones wannabe and I discount his bad faith arguments because they are not honest. In this case he is not even right.

My view is that there are two separate arguments, there is the problem of big tech platforms, their messaging and what they do or don’t allow and the inconsistency with which it is applied and how it should be regulated.

The second argument is about the banning of Trump which is a separate issue in itself and has little to do with the first argument, or even BLM or any other recent protest group, an argument to be found on RW forums (well, those that are left anyway).

As long as America ‘grinds on’, protests, conspiracy theorists, even legal challenges to the election do not stop America from grinding on. They are a matter for state police, social media platforms, and courts which are all part of the system.

Jan 6th though was an attempt to stop America grinding on, an attempt to stop the legal and peaceful transfer of power and that, the real deep state, not the fantasy Q larping version, cannot tolerate. Jan 6th was an attempt to stop America grinding on and that will activate federal attention at all levels and across all States.

The tech companies realise this which is why they have reacted so strongly, because it threatens them in a way the Chinese leadership, or whoever, does not. Corporate America realises this which is why you getting defunding notices, the Democrats realise this which is why they cannot let impeachment go, and authorities have no choice but to go after Trump.

Someone, I forget who, said the Q mob, MAGA crowd, Trump‘s lawyers and Trump were ready to release the Kraken, instead they prodded the leviathan and it’s fucking pissed.
 
Do I have a right to go into a packed cinema and shout 'fire' even though there isn't one.
Would the police and the Odeon have grounds to prevent this?
Of course they would.
Shit thread and shit narrative that distracts from the real issue of calling out the fascism rising in the west...
 
Do I have a right to go into a packed cinema and shout 'fire' even though there isn't one.
Would the police and the Odeon have grounds to prevent this?
Of course they would.
Shit thread and shit narrative that distracts from the real issue of calling out the fascism rising in the west...
It’s a false thread meant to amplify a particular poster’s view of corporate entities as inherently committing malfeasance through their structure and existence.

Bull. Shit.
 
I used Merkel because she is arguing in good faith, I can agree or disagree but either way I can respect her position. Nawaz is a UK Alex Jones wannabe and I discount his bad faith arguments because they are not honest. In this case he is not even right.

My view is that there are two separate arguments, there is the problem of big tech platforms, their messaging and what they do or don’t allow and the inconsistency with which it is applied and how it should be regulated.

The second argument is about the banning of Trump which is a separate issue in itself and has little to do with the first argument, or even BLM or any other recent protest group, an argument to be found on RW forums (well, those that are left anyway).

As long as America ‘grinds on’, protests, conspiracy theorists, even legal challenges to the election do not stop America from grinding on. They are a matter for state police, social media platforms, and courts which are all part of the system.

Jan 6th though was an attempt to stop America grinding on, an attempt to stop the legal and peaceful transfer of power and that, the real deep state, not the fantasy Q larping version, cannot tolerate. Jan 6th was an attempt to stop America grinding on and that will activate federal attention at all levels and across all States.

The tech companies realise this which is why they have reacted so strongly, because it threatens them in a way the Chinese leadership, or whoever, does not. Corporate America realises this which is why you getting defunding notices, the Democrats realise this which is why they cannot let impeachment go, and authorities have no choice but to go after Trump.

Someone, I forget who, said the Q mob, MAGA crowd, Trump‘s lawyers and Trump were ready to release the Kraken, instead they prodded the leviathan and it’s fucking pissed.

Agree with this. I’d probably add that Rascal is assuming that the government always acts in good faith, which it pertinently hasn't done for the past 4 years And SM should have acted sooner IMO.
 
Do I have a right to go into a packed cinema and shout 'fire' even though there isn't one.
Would the police and the Odeon have grounds to prevent this?
Of course they would.
Shit thread and shit narrative that distracts from the real issue of calling out the fascism rising in the west...
For me it's not so much trump losing his platform that's an issue. Just like the old fire triangle of heat,fuel and oxygen trump and the qanon need a few ingredients to function, one of which is an outraged and reactive opposition feeding a sense of persecution and their conspiracy theories. For the sake of 9 days, I'm not sure the Trump SM blackout is worth it tbh.
 

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