shes an athiest so that could upset some peopledesouza10 said:Well if we just take England women's manager, Hope Powell, and cripple her, then we have the three criteria; black, female, disabled.
I'd like to see Viv Anderson's reaction to that
colinbellsboots said:Unknown_Genius said:I don't agree with what he's saying about they should appoint a coaching staff member because of skin colour, you're credentials should decide that. I do think though that its harder for black players to get into management though, so I can sort of understand what he's saying. Les Ferdinand talked about this issue, and he came across well, it was a good article.
ince had a great chance to proove that black coaches are upto the job, he failed at blackburn, john barnes had a great chance at celtic, he too failed, both highest callibre as players but to be honnest not anywhere near good enougth for prem, or international coaching jobs.
its not a black thing its just that no plack englishman has yet prooved to be upto the top jobs.
but given time it will change forever is a bloody long time.
Ticket For Schalke said:I see Viv Anderson is calling out England should appoint a black manager, Why should we??? at the mo theres not one good enough, I'm all for the racism campaign, but why should we appoint a black coach if he's not good enough??
de niro said:he's a fucking idiot, why do people like him play the racism card just to have something to say, i'd take any colour, height, weight or what the fuck if the manager was good enough, i assume so would any fan at any club.
Jordie said:That would be quite contraversial. Having a gay England manager.hello said:Paul Ince did a great job and should surely replace Capello
mancity89 said:Who gives a f**k what colour his skin is? It shouldnt even come into the criteria. A manager should be chosen on ability not skin colour.
whp.blue said:How about an openly Black Gay Manager ?
Monkey Boy Blue said:whp.blue said:How about an openly Black Gay Manager ?
Please tell me you deliberately worded it like that...
I've heard that a few top managers are 'closet blacks', but none have come out as yet...
bluenova said:de niro said:he's a fucking idiot, why do people like him play the racism card just to have something to say, i'd take any colour, height, weight or what the fuck if the manager was good enough, i assume so would any fan at any club.
Around 30% of footballers are black, or mixed race, yet they make up less than 5% of managers. Can't be anything worth talking about their can there?
De Niro, within your lifetime supporting football you'll have known the kind of crap that used to be said about black footballers. That they were lazy, that they didn't play well in the winter (even those who were British), etc.
On the playing side black players have broken through those stereotypes, but it's taking longer to break through on the coaching/management side. If a thoughtful interview from Viv Anderson makes a few people think about the issue then that can't be a bad thing.
Balti said:We could rotate it so that every minority gets a go. Unless a hybrid multi-minority candidate can be found who ticks lots of boxes all at once, so perhaps a Gay Muslim Black Veggie Dwarf should be the initial target? A 'special' one?
mancity89 said:Who gives a f**k what colour his skin is? It shouldnt even come into the criteria. A manager should be chosen on ability not skin colour.
de niro said:dont know why there is an unbalance to be honest.
bluenova said:de niro said:dont know why there is an unbalance to be honest.
Nor me, but if you look at the dismissive responses of most posters on here, to what was in fact a pretty balanced interview, I think I could hazard a guess.
This isn't about every minority getting a turn - it's about a clear discrepancy between the percentage of black players and the percentage of black managers. If nearly one in three players are black then why aren't they becoming managers.
Look at some of our current players: Kompany, Onuoha, De Jong, Vieira, Toure etc. There is no obvious reason why they should be less likely to go into management. On the face of it, they are some of our more intelligent, thoughtful, and ambitious players - exactly the kind who would make good coaches and managers.
(and once again - Anderson didn't say "manager" he said that the FA could set an example by involving someone on the coaching side)
de niro said:i think its all down to money, players now retire very wealthy so a lesser amount of players are ataying the the game, they dont need to.so if the overall percentage is down the number of black players coming through will dwindle.any one of our black players you have mentioned would indeed add something to any dressing room/ training pitch thats for certain.
i'll go with vinny.