Black manager.

[Monkey Boy Blue]

How about an openly Black Gay Manager ?

Please tell me you deliberately worded it like that...

I've heard that a few top managers are 'closet blacks', but none have come out as yet...

 

[whp.blue]

How about an openly Black Gay Manager ?

Please tell me you deliberately worded it like that...

I've heard that a few top managers are 'closet blacks', but none have come out as yet...

yes I did

I feel it sounds a whole lot less offensive and it is a strange OP

 

[Bill]

he's a fucking idiot, why do people like him play the racism card just to have something to say, i'd take any colour, height, weight or what the fuck if the manager was good enough, i assume so would any fan at any club.

Around 30% of footballers are black, or mixed race, yet they make up less than 5% of managers. Can't be anything worth talking about their can there?

De Niro, within your lifetime supporting football you'll have known the kind of crap that used to be said about black footballers. That they were lazy, that they didn't play well in the winter (even those who were British), etc.

On the playing side black players have broken through those stereotypes, but it's taking longer to break through on the coaching/management side. If a thoughtful interview from Viv Anderson makes a few people think about the issue then that can't be a bad thing.

you're right about taunts from the past, its quite unbelieve what bile fans would come out with, i have seen black players get some right abuse years ago, cringworthy.
thank goodness we have moved on, anyway paul ince is not a shit manager cos he's black, he's just shit. frank rijkaard is a top manager, end of.

dont know why there is an unbalance to be honest.

 

[Balti]

We could rotate it so that every minority gets a go. Unless a hybrid multi-minority candidate can be found who ticks lots of boxes all at once, so perhaps a Gay Muslim Black Veggie Dwarf should be the initial target? A 'special' one?

 

[Bill]

We could rotate it so that every minority gets a go. Unless a hybrid multi-minority candidate can be found who ticks lots of boxes all at once, so perhaps a Gay Muslim Black Veggie Dwarf should be the initial target? A 'special' one?

could he be a ginge too? if so i know just the guy.

 

[Montgomery Burns]

Who gives a f**k what colour his skin is? It shouldnt even come into the criteria. A manager should be chosen on ability not skin colour.

Exactly.

Imagine the furore if at the time of McClaren's departure Stuart Pearce had called for a white manager to be appointed.

If Paul Ince was the best person for the job next time around then he should get the job. I have my doubts as to whether he will be though! Frank Rijkard? Far more of a possibility.

 

[Feed-The-Goat]

So we should appoint a black manager just to keep viv happy, despite the fact that he could be utter shite.

But then again viv would be happy. When a black manager comes along good enough to manage England, then yes, but at the moment NO!

 

[bluenova]

dont know why there is an unbalance to be honest.

Nor me, but if you look at the dismissive responses of most posters on here, to what was in fact a pretty balanced interview, I think I could hazard a guess.

This isn't about every minority getting a turn - it's about a clear discrepancy between the percentage of black players and the percentage of black managers. If nearly one in three players are black then why aren't they becoming managers.

Look at some of our current players: Kompany, Onuoha, De Jong, Vieira, Toure etc. There is no obvious reason why they should be less likely to go into management. On the face of it, they are some of our more intelligent, thoughtful, and ambitious players - exactly the kind who would make good coaches and managers.

(and once again - Anderson didn't say "manager" he said that the FA could set an example by involving someone on the coaching side)

 

[Bill]

dont know why there is an unbalance to be honest.

Nor me, but if you look at the dismissive responses of most posters on here, to what was in fact a pretty balanced interview, I think I could hazard a guess.

This isn't about every minority getting a turn - it's about a clear discrepancy between the percentage of black players and the percentage of black managers. If nearly one in three players are black then why aren't they becoming managers.

Look at some of our current players: Kompany, Onuoha, De Jong, Vieira, Toure etc. There is no obvious reason why they should be less likely to go into management. On the face of it, they are some of our more intelligent, thoughtful, and ambitious players - exactly the kind who would make good coaches and managers.

(and once again - Anderson didn't say "manager" he said that the FA could set an example by involving someone on the coaching side)

i think its all down to money, players now retire very wealthy so a lesser amount of players are ataying the the game, they dont need to.so if the overall
percentage is down the number of black players coming through will dwindle.any one of our black players you have mentioned would indeed add something to any dressing room/ training pitch thats for certain.
i'll go with vinny.

 

[bluenova]

i think its all down to money, players now retire very wealthy so a lesser amount of players are ataying the the game, they dont need to.so if the overall percentage is down the number of black players coming through will dwindle.any one of our black players you have mentioned would indeed add something to any dressing room/ training pitch thats for certain.
i'll go with vinny.

True that the top players no longer need to become managers, but it doesn't stop many of them from trying - you after all only need one manager and a handful of coaches for squads of 25-35 players. It also shouldn't affect black players disproportionately.

While there are so few black managers and coaches they are always going to be seen as representative. As you mentioned the colour of his skin is irrelevant to why Paul Ince didn't do well at Blackburn (although he had previous success) - yet because he's one of the very few black managers he has been brought up numerous times in this thread. When he got the job at Blackburn there were articles about how, with success, he could be a role model for future black managers. What kind of a situation are we in where the many thousands of black ex-footballers have to rely on the success or otherwise of one man in order to be taken seriously.