bnp have an elected mep

[Daviesmcfc]

I ceebs with this debate anymore tbh. The underlying fact which no one can argue with is that

THE BNP ARE A RACIST, ANTI SEMITIC, ANTI ISLAM, ANTI FOREIGNER, RIGHT WING NASTY GROUP WHO WANTS TO REMOVE ALL NON WHITES FROM THE COUNTRY.
THAT WOULD MEAN BYE BYE WRIGHT PHILLIPS, ONUOHA, RICHARDS, CACIEDO, GOATER ETC.
ANYONE WHO VOTES FOR THEM IS THEREFORE RACIST.

 

[buzzer1]

Gypsies were murdered, tortured in concentration camps too. I wish someone would give them their own country.
They might stop knocking on my fucking door offering to clean the gutters/do the garden/tarmac the drive.

You are being extremely stereotypical and racist. Some Jewish people do that but I would say about one percent of the orthodox community do it.

Read it again, I was talking about Pikeys not Jews. In your rush to condemn anyone with a different opinion to yourself as racist, you obviously overlooked it.

Yet again Stony,yet again. You are lucky,at least your not a c*nt.

 

[Daviesmcfc]

Gypsies were murdered, tortured in concentration camps too. I wish someone would give them their own country.
They might stop knocking on my fucking door offering to clean the gutters/do the garden/tarmac the drive.

You are being extremely stereotypical and racist. Some Jewish people do that but I would say about one percent of the orthodox community do it.

Read it again, I was talking about Pikeys not Jews. In your rush to condemn anyone with a different opinion to yourself as racist, you obviously overlooked it.

Yet again Stony,yet again. You are lucky,at least your not a c*nt.

You are one of the most racist anti semitic people I have ever come across. You are not worth talking to. And I am stil waiting for you to prove what you said about the transportation was correct.

 

[bluearmy71]

Don't worry you were not being flippant you were being a dick don't try to belittle my right you know what it means the political correct society that tell us too use WHITE boards instead of black(it's a writing board), change OUR nursery rhyme about a black sheep to bah bah wool sheep(it's a sheep) and a endless list of over the top pc nonsense and getting rid of traditions.And you may not give it a thought but I assure you people who have worked in schools or with kids for many years have too put up with nonsense like this all the time to avoid upsetting different race children and so on.

The BNP are not perfect but they are changing and for the better in my opinion they are changing most of their old policy's and replacing them with more realistic and mainstream policy's similar to other party's if not more for British people but hey this is Briton and they are The British National Party and want us too reclaim the old British traditions closeness of community's and independence that made this once great nation of ours what it used to be.

They have no problem with foreigners coming to settle or people who have lived here this is if you have noticed the past few months what Nick Griffin has been saying they only want too control our borders more closely to avoid over crowding and immigration which is a major problem at the moment I for one am for that something similar to the Aussies policy's.

*I didn't say they are good they have said things in the past that they should be ashamed of yes but I think they now realise that and are making steps too became a creditable party they have a hell of a lot of work too do but they are changing there image if not impossible work too change your perception of them.And Gordon Brown doesn't drown puppies he shoots them in the head then eats them whole.
Their far from extreme they just want the best for their nation and I assure you I am not with them and I will not fight them like the muppets who throw eggs and attack them then make out that the BNP are the bad ones.

Their Constitution has many wholes in it and that is why they are changing and want to change their image and this is why they have no chance of being in power and Nick Griffin Knows this.

Your quotes from the media says it all really "coded messages" lol this is what you call brain washing and I wouldn't take any notice myself.

nice one resorting to calling me a dick mate. i wasn't being a dick. i was stating the truth about the relevance what you were putting forward as reasoning behind votes for the bnp had to the banning of the term 'black board'. again, apologies for being flippant (or in your eyes 'being a dick'), i don not give flying fuck about saying black board, black sheep, black pudding, or even black man, i care about a party founded out of embers of the national front not getting power, a party who want to remove all non-white people from England and who are opposed to an integrated society.

my quotes from media are sadly the closest thing i can find to the bnp manifesto small print, so i can't prove it, but i have read it, you can find it at any library. not sure what the coded messages alludend to, but i'm pretty sure you missed the point.

i'm not going to egg anyone as i dont think that's the way, but spreading the word about it will help, and having discussions about it is the way forward. people need to realise that the bnp are not all that they seem. nick griffin is an awful human being and will always be, just because he's presenting himself in a different way now doesn't mean that he's changed his mind on an all-white vision of england where OUR nursery rhymes can use the words black in them without the 'PC Brigade' going 'oooooo' all the time.

Ok things are getting mixed in mind translation and maybe you weren't being a dick I apologise and can understand why people are so against the BNP and don't listen too them anymore , somewhat helped by the media but sooner or later people have to realize that they are not as bad as they are made out anymore they are changing getting smarter and more professional also whilst labour have completely sent this country into a mess(bloody hell that's another matter) but
helping BNP get stronger because of the good policy's and traditional views they do have.
Like I have said in other posts I am not a supporter of the BNP never voted for them may never will?100% against racism of any kind but 100% for England and Briton getting our traditions, closeness of community's multi cultural or not of course, tightening the borders stopping illegal immigration would like us to be more independent we have plenty of coal under our feet that needs mining more jobs for the unemployed through that and steel but I don't know where we would stand on the environment side, all too help the nation and it's people and can see why some people have lent there way.

We all know BNP will never get into power and if they were elected they wouldn't be able to fart on a non white British without someone stepping in whether it be a country(USA) or us ourself the public and we must be realistic the nazi party they are not,I would of thought they would of learnt from there unprofessionalism and mistakes years ago and am willing to take them more seriously listen too them from what I have heard and read through there website recently whilst i listen too other party's aswell.It's only ever going to be between the two main party's for me when it comes down too the day to be honest.Every one needs to calm down listen too all party's and vote realistically and sensibly simplez.

That's all am going to say on the matter I don't want to start arguments or go into the holocaust denials neither waste my time on this seemingly very sensitive and opinionated subject any more i have gave my opinion and will read yours and others peacefully.

 

[buzzer1]

You are one of the most racist anti semitic people I have ever come across. You are not worth talking to. And I am stil waiting for you to prove what you said about the transportation was correct.[/quote]

And you are one of the most oppressive,bullying and ignorant people that ive had the misfortune of debating with. When you realise that we are just puppets for the agenda,I.E,Rothschilds and any other idiot nobhead,you iwill see that the only goal of these morons,is money,power,death and destruction,inc. WW3. And if you think that man,wouldnt shit on other man for self gain,i.e power and standing,then you are way out,eg Bin Ladens and the Bush family. And when the war is over,the agenda will come out of there underground
cities,and then they will have their ultimate goal.the NWO. Some people are living there lives according to what the agenda have set out for them. The secret services,i.e,MI6,Mossad,The ISI,are all linked,and us,the rats,are led to believe that everything is a mish mash and divided,well if you look closely,you will see,that there really is,a hidden hand,and it has no boundaries,if your black,white,muslim,jewish,arabic,etc,then you are fair game to the agenda. You must have heard the saying,divide and rule,?nuff said.

 

[BimboBob]

You are one of the most racist anti semitic people I have ever come across. You are not worth talking to. And I am stil waiting for you to prove what you said about the transportation was correct.

And you are one of the most oppressive,bullying and ignorant people that ive had the misfortune of debating with. When you realise that we are just puppets for the agenda,I.E,Rothschilds and any other idiot nobhead,you iwill see that the only goal of these morons,is money,power,death and destruction,inc. WW3. And if you think that man,wouldnt shit on other man for self gain,i.e power and standing,then you are way out,eg Bin Ladens and the Bush family. And when the war is over,the agenda will come out of there underground
cities,and then they will have their ultimate goal.the NWO. Some people are living there lives according to what the agenda have set out for them. The secret services,i.e,MI6,Mossad,The ISI,are all linked,and us,the rats,are led to believe that everything is a mish mash and divided,well if you look closely,you will see,that there really is,a hidden hand,and it has no boundaries,if your black,white,muslim,jewish,arabic,etc,then you are fair game to the agenda. You must have heard the saying,divide and rule,?nuff said.[/quote]


I read a book about that once.Scarey stuff.I can't remember the name of it but it was by a bloke called Dan Brown.Heard of him?

 

[buzzer1]

You are one of the most racist anti semitic people I have ever come across. You are not worth talking to. And I am stil waiting for you to prove what you said about the transportation was correct.

And you are one of the most oppressive,bullying and ignorant people that ive had the misfortune of debating with. When you realise that we are just puppets for the agenda,I.E,Rothschilds and any other idiot nobhead,you iwill see that the only goal of these morons,is money,power,death and destruction,inc. WW3. And if you think that man,wouldnt shit on other man for self gain,i.e power and standing,then you are way out,eg Bin Ladens and the Bush family. And when the war is over,the agenda will come out of there underground
cities,and then they will have their ultimate goal.the NWO. Some people are living there lives according to what the agenda have set out for them. The secret services,i.e,MI6,Mossad,The ISI,are all linked,and us,the rats,are led to believe that everything is a mish mash and divided,well if you look closely,you will see,that there really is,a hidden hand,and it has no boundaries,if your black,white,muslim,jewish,arabic,etc,then you are fair game to the agenda. You must have heard the saying,divide and rule,?nuff said.

Its all scarey shit BB,AND THERS A MASSIVE BUCKET OF SAND THAT PEOPLE PUT THERE HEADS IN. I just urge people,not bully them,into waking upto the real shit thats going on in the universe as awhole,but then again,im just a racist,anti semitic,nobhead,c*nt,wierdo cultist,coz im not part of the herd,i am in a way,but im wide awake to it,the rabbit whole is bottomless.


I read a book about that once.Scarey stuff.I can't remember the name of it but it was by a bloke called Dan Brown.Heard of him?[/quote]

 

[Helmet Cole]

I think a lot of anti-semitism is due to bad PR. You don't realy hear about Israel unless they are bombing palestine. Surely the Jewish community could put out a few more "good-news" stories with a bit of positive spin. Muslims have the same problem in that you only realy seem to hear about them when they explode, or fly a plane into a building. In contrast the BNP seem quite good at covering up their murky NF/C18 past and getting positive print in the red tops.

 

[Alan Kernaghan's 40yd Lob]

Don't worry you were not being flippant you were being a dick don't try to belittle my right you know what it means the political correct society that tell us too use WHITE boards instead of black(it's a writing board), change OUR nursery rhyme about a black sheep to bah bah wool sheep(it's a sheep) and a endless list of over the top pc nonsense and getting rid of traditions.And you may not give it a thought but I assure you people who have worked in schools or with kids for many years have too put up with nonsense like this all the time to avoid upsetting different race children and so on.

The BNP are not perfect but they are changing and for the better in my opinion they are changing most of their old policy's and replacing them with more realistic and mainstream policy's similar to other party's if not more for British people but hey this is Briton and they are The British National Party and want us too reclaim the old British traditions closeness of community's and independence that made this once great nation of ours what it used to be.

They have no problem with foreigners coming to settle or people who have lived here this is if you have noticed the past few months what Nick Griffin has been saying they only want too control our borders more closely to avoid over crowding and immigration which is a major problem at the moment I for one am for that something similar to the Aussies policy's.

*I didn't say they are good they have said things in the past that they should be ashamed of yes but I think they now realise that and are making steps too became a creditable party they have a hell of a lot of work too do but they are changing there image if not impossible work too change your perception of them.And Gordon Brown doesn't drown puppies he shoots them in the head then eats them whole.
Their far from extreme they just want the best for their nation and I assure you I am not with them and I will not fight them like the muppets who throw eggs and attack them then make out that the BNP are the bad ones.

Their Constitution has many wholes in it and that is why they are changing and want to change their image and this is why they have no chance of being in power and Nick Griffin Knows this.

Your quotes from the media says it all really "coded messages" lol this is what you call brain washing and I wouldn't take any notice myself.

nice one resorting to calling me a dick mate. i wasn't being a dick. i was stating the truth about the relevance what you were putting forward as reasoning behind votes for the bnp had to the banning of the term 'black board'. again, apologies for being flippant (or in your eyes 'being a dick'), i don not give flying fuck about saying black board, black sheep, black pudding, or even black man, i care about a party founded out of embers of the national front not getting power, a party who want to remove all non-white people from England and who are opposed to an integrated society.

my quotes from media are sadly the closest thing i can find to the bnp manifesto small print, so i can't prove it, but i have read it, you can find it at any library. not sure what the coded messages alludend to, but i'm pretty sure you missed the point.

i'm not going to egg anyone as i dont think that's the way, but spreading the word about it will help, and having discussions about it is the way forward. people need to realise that the bnp are not all that they seem. nick griffin is an awful human being and will always be, just because he's presenting himself in a different way now doesn't mean that he's changed his mind on an all-white vision of england where OUR nursery rhymes can use the words black in them without the 'PC Brigade' going 'oooooo' all the time.

Ok things are getting mixed in mind translation and maybe you weren't being a dick I apologise and can understand why people are so against the BNP and don't listen too them anymore , somewhat helped by the media but sooner or later people have to realize that they are not as bad as they are made out anymore they are changing getting smarter and more professional also whilst labour have completely sent this country into a mess(bloody hell that's another matter) but
helping BNP get stronger because of the good policy's and traditional views they do have.
Like I have said in other posts I am not a supporter of the BNP never voted for them may never will?100% against racism of any kind but 100% for England and Briton getting our traditions, closeness of community's multi cultural or not of course, tightening the borders stopping illegal immigration would like us to be more independent we have plenty of coal under our feet that needs mining more jobs for the unemployed through that and steel but I don't know where we would stand on the environment side, all too help the nation and it's people and can see why some people have lent there way.

We all know BNP will never get into power and if they were elected they wouldn't be able to fart on a non white British without someone stepping in whether it be a country(USA) or us ourself the public and we must be realistic the nazi party they are not,I would of thought they would of learnt from there unprofessionalism and mistakes years ago and am willing to take them more seriously listen too them from what I have heard and read through there website recently whilst i listen too other party's aswell.It's only ever going to be between the two main party's for me when it comes down too the day to be honest.Every one needs to calm down listen too all party's and vote realistically and sensibly simplez.

That's all am going to say on the matter I don't want to start arguments or go into the holocaust denials neither waste my time on this seemingly very sensitive and opinionated subject any more i have gave my opinion and will read yours and others peacefully.

fair enough mate. the bnp promise to do all those things that you say are good policies, yeah they might be to some people and that's ok, but it's what goes beyond that that their opposition have a problem with you know? you're right that they might not be able to do some of the stuff they may or may not want to do, but if they had enought power and were the elected party, they can damn well try, it doesnt matter what the US say.

glad you dont want to go into holocaust denials like those evil people are doing. we'll stick to calling each other dicks then yeah? ;)

peace out x

 

[ElanJo]

Let me stick my oar in on this fascinating mud slinging match between Davies and Buzzer for one minute. I'm not going to bother taking issue with some of the things that Buzzer has said, whilst he's sort of right about a couple of things - the genocidal policies of the state of Israel, a state that is pretty racist if you look at the marriage and citizenship laws it has enacted - alot of what he says is fantasy. Him asking Davies to prove that Jewish people didnt transport other Jews to the concentration camps is ridiculous. The proof rests on Buzzer's shoulders since he brought it up. It's like when religious people tell me to prove that god does not exist. It's fucking stupid.

Davies on the other hand seems abit more mature, tho I think you should calm down with the somewhat slanderous uses of the terms "anti-semite" and "racist" I think it trivialises the terms, but that's just my opinion.
I'd like to take an issue, or atleast question your views on a couple of things you've said, one of which is subjective I guess, the other not. first:

The Holocaust is the most tragic thing which ever happened.
Millions of Jewish people were tortured, sent to concentration camps, forced to work, treated like animals and eventually gassed or shot for over five years. The rest of the world did nothing. I have been to Auschwitz, I have seen the camps. I have seen teh belongings of the Jewish people. I have seen the gas chambers where they were brutally murdered.
How anyone can call Jewish people racist after that is a joke.

The Jewish genocide, like any genocide, was pure evil but what specifically makes you feel that the "The Holocaust" was the worst tragedy that has ever occurred? Personally I find it distasteful to compare different genocides because it straight away diminishes the importance of the rest, and that is exactly what someone is doing when they state this one or that one is the worst, but even with that said I still wonder why you deem it as worse than, lets say, the Native American genocide or what Mao did etc.

I wonder why we need to compare them tbh.

Israel is and always has been traditionnaly the Jewish homeland. Get your facts right.....

Are you talking about the Bible? because, outside of that silly book, the land of Israel, asfaik, was not always the homeland of the Jewish people. The 1st occupants were indeed Palestinian tribes, whose name escapes me.