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[mancmackem]

Nick Griffin is a very clever, manipulative person. If you look on Youtube at a speech he gave in Manchester (it's a 2 parter), then you get a hint and unnerving feeling of how dangerous this man could be. The only positive they are serving British politics at the moment is keeping the issue of immigration on the political map, hopefully for the next general election.

 

[Daviesmcfc]

Buzzer1, for about the fifteenth time now, please prove what you said about Jewish people transporting other Jewish people to camps is true.

For fucks sake. I could go on and on about the stuff that you came out with,like jumping down my neck all because YOU misunderstood that i was merely asking a question regs the figures of the death toll etc, AS FOR THE TRANSPORTATION,I HAVE WORKED OUT,(MY CONCLUSION), after reading testimonies of x soldiers,both in books and on various programmes,ie discovery etc,that indeed,this did happen,if this upsets you,then i am sorry,but it is my opinion. Now,can you tell me,
(A) Do you admit,that Israel indeed is an extremely racist state, with its caste system etc.?
(B) Could you tell me where the Jewish/semites came from?
(C) Do you seriously believe,that a bunch of people wouldnt help or indeed conspire,to murder its own people.?

It is total rubbish about the transportaion. Why would Jewish people do that to other Jewish people when they were all being transported to camps. It never happened and still you have given no proof of it. You just said it was your conclusion that it happened whereas when you first mentioned it, you said it happened for a fact.


a.) No more racist than the likes of Dubai, Iran, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon etc who don't let Israelis in.
b.) Jewish people always have evolved and lived in Israel until they were kicked out by the arabs and then reclaimed their land in 1948.
c.) Yes, why would they?

 

[Helmet Cole]

Davies mcfc - What's the best you are hoping for here? Is buzzer going to live in a kibbutz and give up bacon? It's fair to say he has a pretty extreme view of things that most on here probably don't agree with, but as the saying goes if you argue with a fool too long people find it hard to tell the difference.

 

[buzzer1]

Buzzer1, for about the fifteenth time now, please prove what you said about Jewish people transporting other Jewish people to camps is true.

For fucks sake. I could go on and on about the stuff that you came out with,like jumping down my neck all because YOU misunderstood that i was merely asking a question regs the figures of the death toll etc, AS FOR THE TRANSPORTATION,I HAVE WORKED OUT,(MY CONCLUSION), after reading testimonies of x soldiers,both in books and on various programmes,ie discovery etc,that indeed,this did happen,if this upsets you,then i am sorry,but it is my opinion. Now,can you tell me,
(A) Do you admit,that Israel indeed is an extremely racist state, with its caste system etc.?
(B) Could you tell me where the Jewish/semites came from?
(C) Do you seriously believe,that a bunch of people wouldnt help or indeed conspire,to murder its own people.?

It is total rubbish about the transportaion. Why would Jewish people do that to other Jewish people when they were all being transported to camps. It never happened and still you have given no proof of it. You sjust said it was your conclusion that it happened whereas when you first mentioned it, you said it happened for a fact.


a.) No more racist than the likes of Dubai, Iran, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon etc who don't let Israelis in.
b.) Jewish people always have evolved and lived in Israel until they were kicked out by the arabs and then reclaimed their land in 1948.
c.) Yes, why would they?

Why would they, just like 9/11 eh,? they wouldnt do that to there own, would they? and you still havent answered (C) Why the lies to the arabs saying that if you help us to drive ouy the ottomans we will give you a homeland, some homeland it turned out to be, not. and you still havent replied regs that everyone of Israeli leaders have been in terrorist murdering organisations, everyone single one of them. You have selected postings my friend, and this debate could go on and on, but whatever you say, Israel is a deeply racist state, yes,so are other countries, but we are talking about Israel at the moment,
which as i said, are deeply racist.

 

[Dubai Blue]

a.) No more racist than the likes of Dubai, Iran, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon etc who don't let Israelis in.

I've explained to you many, many times throughout this thread that any Israeli of any race or religion will struggle to get into the UAE.

So I'll go back to my original assertion that you don't even understand what racism means. You can slag off the UAE's policies towards Israel for all you want (and I agree that they are taken to ridiculous lengths) but they are, by their very definition, NOT racist.

You could've pointed to many other aspects of Dubai that ARE undoubtedly racist, yet you chose to pick on one that clearly isn't. Strange.

 

[Daviesmcfc]

Buzzer1, for about the fifteenth time now, please prove what you said about Jewish people transporting other Jewish people to camps is true.

For fucks sake. I could go on and on about the stuff that you came out with,like jumping down my neck all because YOU misunderstood that i was merely asking a question regs the figures of the death toll etc, AS FOR THE TRANSPORTATION,I HAVE WORKED OUT,(MY CONCLUSION), after reading testimonies of x soldiers,both in books and on various programmes,ie discovery etc,that indeed,this did happen,if this upsets you,then i am sorry,but it is my opinion. Now,can you tell me,
(A) Do you admit,that Israel indeed is an extremely racist state, with its caste system etc.?
(B) Could you tell me where the Jewish/semites came from?
(C) Do you seriously believe,that a bunch of people wouldnt help or indeed conspire,to murder its own people.?

It is total rubbish about the transportaion. Why would Jewish people do that to other Jewish people when they were all being transported to camps. It never happened and still you have given no proof of it. You sjust said it was your conclusion that it happened whereas when you first mentioned it, you said it happened for a fact.


a.) No more racist than the likes of Dubai, Iran, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon etc who don't let Israelis in.
b.) Jewish people always have evolved and lived in Israel until they were kicked out by the arabs and then reclaimed their land in 1948.
c.) Yes, why would they?

Why would they, just like 9/11 eh,? they wouldnt do that to there own, would they? and you still havent answered (C) Why the lies to the arabs saying that if you help us to drive ouy the ottomans we will give you a homeland, some homeland it turned out to be, not. and you still havent replied regs that everyone of Israeli leaders have been in terrorist murdering organisations, everyone single one of them. You have selected postings my friend, and this debate could go on and on, but whatever you say, Israel is a deeply racist state, yes,so are other countries, but we are talking about Israel at the moment,
which as i said, are deeply racist.

Yes but you said JEWISH PEOPLE ARE THE MOST RACIST PEOPLE ON THE PLANET. Without any justification and once again the transportation theory is a load of cr*p. It never happened. You made a ridiculous claim and gave no proof of it.

Israel's leaders are part of a terrorist organisation? No they're not.

Let me get this clear.
I DO NOT AGREE WITH WHAT ISRAEL DID IN GAZA. There are also many aspects of Israel which are racist towards the Palestinians. However it is the arabs who will not agree to a two state solution. In 1948, they were offered it, they rejected and tried to force Israel out the country. In 1967 they were offered it, rejected it and treid to force Israel out the country. Many times under Yassa Arafat, they were offered a two state proposition and they rejected it.

Thousands of rockets ar e launched into Israel every year, what do you want them to do, just sit back and let them do it?

 

[Dubai Blue]

Yes but you said JEWISH PEOPLE ARE THE MOST RACIST PEOPLE ON THE PLANET

You seem to have a huge problem in differentiating between Judaism and the State of Israel. They are two separate things, yet you keep classing them as one.

Buzzer never once said what you are claiming above about Jews. He said ISRAEL was the most racist country on the planet. I personally don't agree with him, but you are bang out of order to twist his words like you have done in your last post.

Criticising Israel and its government's policies is not anti-semetic; it is anti-Israeli.

Many Israelis are so quick to throw the anti-semetic card in your face when you criticise their country's policies. It's complete and utter bullshit. They could be Buddhists for all I care; I would still criticise their actions. Equally, the Palestinians could be Hindus and I would still have no respect for them firing rockets into innocent people's gardens.

 

[Helmet Cole]

Got to agree with this post. There is a tendancy for any critisism of Isreal or its foreign policy to atract the anti-semite label. This is where the PC stuff can go against common sense - much like when the security services are critisised as racist for conducting a lot of stop and search on Irish/muslim blokes etc. It appears racist, but when has anyone outside these racial/religious groups ever gone in for bombing the UK?

 

[Daviesmcfc]

Yes but you said JEWISH PEOPLE ARE THE MOST RACIST PEOPLE ON THE PLANET

You seem to have a huge problem in differentiating between Judaism and the State of Israel. They are two separate things, yet you keep classing them as one.

Buzzer never once said what you are claiming above about Jews. He said ISRAEL was the most racist country on the planet. I personally don't agree with him, but you are bang out of order to twist his words like you have done in your last post.

Criticising Israel and its government's policies is not anti-semetic; it is anti-Israeli.

Many Israelis are so quick to throw the anti-semetic card in your face when you criticise their country's policies. It's complete and utter bullshit. They could be Buddhists for all I care; I would still criticise their actions. Equally, the Palestinians could be Hindus and I would still have no respect for them firing rockets into innocent people's gardens.

Actually mate, look back a few pages. He said "Jewish people are the most racist people in the world (Not all of them.)
Look if you don't believe me.

 

[Dubai Blue]

Actually mate, look back a few pages. He said "Jewish people are the most racist people in the world (Not all of them.)
Look if you don't believe me.

I've looked and can't find it (mainly because neither of you can fucking quote properly). But I definitely remember him saying Israel was the most racist country on Earth and don't remember him saying the same about Jews. I will, however, happily take back what I said if you can post the evidence for me.

The ball's in your court.