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[TheMightyQuinn]

I accuse you of always being on hard to distract and argue when there's a thread in which posters are opposing far right views.

This isn't a court of law. It's my court and I run things my way. Maybe you just like playing devil's advocate, a lot on here seem to, or you really do have far right leanings. Maybe it's a question you should be asking yourself.

I have stated this before and i will state it again.

There are no hard right tendencies in my locker.

To be honest I quite like the lefties and righties on this forum,it makes it interesting.

I'm an equal opportunity liker if that makes sense.

I don't however like the Tories or New labour.

The word I would use for my feelings for them is despise.

My vote was a toss up between the respect party who I have voted for in the past...or indeed UKIP which will be my next vote of choice.

If that makes me a Nazi war criminal then hey ho!!

All I believe in is peace and love.

Only God can judge you.

Today's Nazi could be tomorrows good Samaritan.

All is love.

 

[dazdon]

All I believe in is peace and love.

Only God can judge you.

Today's Nazi could be tomorrows good Samaritan.

All is love.

There is no God so whatever path I choose will be painless and blameless in the cold of the non existent afterlife.

But your sentiments are noble.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

All I believe in is peace and love.

Only God can judge you.

Today's Nazi could be tomorrows good Samaritan.

All is love.

There is no God so whatever path I choose will be painless and blameless in the cold of the non existent afterlife.

But your sentiments are noble.

There's a higher power and that's the God I refer to.

 

[Paul Lake's Left Knee]

All I believe in is peace and love.

Only God can judge you.

Today's Nazi could be tomorrows good Samaritan.

All is love.

There is no God so whatever path I choose will be painless and blameless in the cold of the non existent afterlife.

But your sentiments are noble.

There's a higher power and that's the God I refer to.

Manuel Pellegrini is his name

 

[dazdon]

There's a higher power and that's the God I refer to.

Tony Blair can't get me.

 

[TheMightyQuinn]

There's a higher power and that's the God I refer to.

Tony Blair can't get me.

Tony Blair is a daemonic entity.

 

[dazdon]

There's a higher power and that's the God I refer to.

Tony Blair can't get me.

Tony Blair is a daemonic entity.

THAT we agree on!

 

[Anonymous]

Example of the far-right leaning of a UKIP councillor in Worcester (13/05/13):

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/10415621.New_UKIP_councillor_facing_the_sack_for_racist_rants_online/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/104 ... ts_online/</a>

A NEW UKIP councillor in Worcestershire has sparked fury amid allegations he unleashed a series of racist abuse online.

Eric Kitson, who won a seat in Stourport just 11 days ago, is facing the sack today over a whole raft of anti-Muslim, anti-Jewish Facebook posts. Among the most shocking is a cartoon of a Muslim being spit-roasted on a fire fuelled by copies of the Koran.

In one comment he said in reference to Muslim women: “Hang um all first then ask questions later.”

A raft of anti-Jewish remarks have also appeared on his Facebook site, and in a separate post he has called for the repatriation of “six million migrants and refugees”. There was also false claims posted on his site that the Rothschild banking dynasty had controlled Nazi Germany's leader Adolf Hitler.

His Facebook page has also called for Muslim women to be hanged, suggested Islam is "a cancer" that should be eradicated "with nuclear weapons" and expressed support for BNP boss Nick Griffin by 'liking' him. His site also called for the world to "unite against Islam" and supports the far-right English Defence League.

The pages have been re-published on a website called Stand for Peace, which has condemned his actions. His Facebook page has now been deleted, but the Stand for Peace website still carries large volumes of his vile posts, some of them dating back to 2012.

A complaint has been made to an inspector at West Mercia Police this afternoon, who has asked to see a file of his Facebook posts. The Muslim community has called the rants "sickening" and a petition is being circulated around mosques tonight calling for his removal.

Councillor Adrian Hardman, the leader of Worcestershire County Council, said: "This looks like criminal activity because he's inciting racial hatred - he should do the honourable thing and resign because he has brought shame on the county." The attacks are currently being investigated by UKIP HQ in London, and have been condemned as “disgusting” by senior figures at Worcestershire County Council this morning.

Councillor Kitson has only just been through training for being an elected politician, and is one of four UKIP members to have just been elected to the authority for the first time ever. If he is removed from his position it would be the shortest spell any elected politician has ever had in County Hall - and would trigger a by-election.

A UKIP spokesman told the Worcester News: “The party is looking into it because we need to find out exactly what has gone on here.

“We don’t want to dismiss him outright until we investigate it. Our understanding is that he has offered to resign over it, but we need to establish what’s happened. A conversation will be taking place and if we find out he has behaved inappropriately, he would have to go."

Councillor Peter McDonald, leader of Worcestershire’s Labour group, said: “These remarks are disgusting and it brings the whole office of being a councillor into disrepute.

“It’s a terrible mess, he has let himself down, the council down, and the voters who elected him in down - they did not vote for this. It's terribly sad and pretty shocking what he has done - this man is now an elected councillor."

The authority has already had one request for the Standards Committee to investigate, and has released a statement in the last few minutes.

Simon Mallinson, head of legal and democratic services, said: "Whilst we would avoid commenting on any individual case at this stage, elected members are expected to comply with the council's code of conduct when they act in their role as county councillors. Any complaint that this code has been breached when acting in such a role will be carefully considered."

Coun Kitson has yet to respond to calls from the press, but Wyre Forest's UKIP branch has confirmed he is under investigation.

Neil Jukes, the chairman, said: "He is under investigation and we will be taking it very seriously.

"I must admit, I was totally unaware of this and when he became a candidate, like all the rest we asked him to sign a form declaring he had no skeletons in the closet and had nothing which would cause us any embarrassment. We will have to wait and see."

Muslim Mumshad Ahmed, a former county councillor, said: "I am sickened and disgusted by this, I cannot believe the hatred he is creating. I will be taking a petition around mosques tonight to get people to sign it, this man is doing something very dangerous - when a Koran was burned there was riots around the world. I cannot see why he's done this."

Meanwhile, Councillor Simon Geraghty, deputy leader of the county council, has called it "heinous".

"You find youself lost for words," he said. "It's absolutely dreadful and he clearly is not the right person to be a councillor with those views."

Several examples of racist views of some of it's candidates to stand as UKIP councillors (26/04/2013):

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/10022138/Racism-Romanians-and-chemical-castration-what-Ukip-candidates-really-believe.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... lieve.html</a>

UKIP is facing questions over its vetting after campaigners criticised the “far-Right connections” and “cuckoo conspiracy theories” of some of its potential councillors. The party has been surging in polls ahead of local elections on May 2, with the latest survey suggesting it could win 100 seats. Nigel Farage, its leader, admitted the party had not checked the backgrounds of all its 1,700 candidates.

One candidate, Richard Wilkins, standing in the Isle of Wight, wrote on Twitter that Mick Philpott, who killed six of his children in a house fire, should have faced “chemical castration” to stop him claiming benefits for more than two children. He suggested Philpott should be “hung or burned at the stake” and objected to police charges against “three blokes [who] kill a pedo”, adding “if they can’t do it we will”.

Chris Scotton, who is standing in Leicester, has a Facebook page that endorses the far-Right English Defence League. He has “liked” Facebook groups with names such as “No more mosques in Britain”, “Women deserve as much respect as men … LOL joke” and “Racism? No mate it’s just ethnic banter”.

David Waller, a candidate in Malling, Kent, referred to risk of tuberculosis after barriers to Bulgarian and Romanian immigrants are lifted next year. “I would suggest not going to London after January 2014 unless you absolutely have to and if you do, adopt the Japanese practice of wearing a face mask,” he wrote on his blog. Mr Waller later told The Daily Telegraph he had not meant the remark to be serious and he is in no way xenophobic.

It suspended Anna-Maria Crampton, a candidate in East Sussex, over alleged comments blaming Jewish people for the Holocaust, and Sue Bowen in Cornwall after it emerged she was a former member of the British National Party.

Peter Wilding, a founder of the pro-Europe British Influence campaign, said Mr Farage should not “get away with a smile while saying we haven’t done due diligence” and criticised the “cuckoo conspiracy theories” of some candidates. A UKIP spokesman said tonight that Conservatives were trying to “traduce people supporting UKIP”.

“UKIP is made up of ordinary people many of whom are young and have made the odd excessive comment on new media,” he said. “I am perfectly prepared to answer every criticism that [Conservative] central office has laid at our door after they have told me how many Romanians and Bulgarians they expect to come to London in the next five years.”

This would be a huge concern if I did not want to be portrayed as racist. I'd also consider what the party was doing by not vetting candidates properly. It would make me wonder if those are the obvious ones, who has slipped through the net already?

Their manifesto has an 8 statement of principles for immigration whilst its policy is under review, but then makes the point that its plans could not be implemented whilst we are an EU member, and that is one of the reasons they want to move out of the EU.

This suggests to me that what they are looking to implement contravenes the European Convention of Human Rights and the European Convention on Refugees. That in and of itself would also worry me greatly. What have they got planned for us that would require an erosion of human rights? That suggests (rightly or wrongly) a lurch towards fascism. Again, if I did not want to be portrayed in that light, I probably would not be voting for a party that seems to be standing for it?

I could be a million miles off pat, but from what I've looked at, including their own policies, I would worry the epithet "BNP in suits" is scarily accurate.

 

[hilts]

Example of the far-right leaning of a UKIP councillor in Worcester (13/05/13):

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/10415621.New_UKIP_councillor_facing_the_sack_for_racist_rants_online/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/104 ... ts_online/</a>

A NEW UKIP councillor in Worcestershire has sparked fury amid allegations he unleashed a series of racist abuse online.

Eric Kitson, who won a seat in Stourport just 11 days ago, is facing the sack today over a whole raft of anti-Muslim, anti-Jewish Facebook posts. Among the most shocking is a cartoon of a Muslim being spit-roasted on a fire fuelled by copies of the Koran.

In one comment he said in reference to Muslim women: “Hang um all first then ask questions later.”

A raft of anti-Jewish remarks have also appeared on his Facebook site, and in a separate post he has called for the repatriation of “six million migrants and refugees”. There was also false claims posted on his site that the Rothschild banking dynasty had controlled Nazi Germany's leader Adolf Hitler.

His Facebook page has also called for Muslim women to be hanged, suggested Islam is "a cancer" that should be eradicated "with nuclear weapons" and expressed support for BNP boss Nick Griffin by 'liking' him. His site also called for the world to "unite against Islam" and supports the far-right English Defence League.

The pages have been re-published on a website called Stand for Peace, which has condemned his actions. His Facebook page has now been deleted, but the Stand for Peace website still carries large volumes of his vile posts, some of them dating back to 2012.

A complaint has been made to an inspector at West Mercia Police this afternoon, who has asked to see a file of his Facebook posts. The Muslim community has called the rants "sickening" and a petition is being circulated around mosques tonight calling for his removal.

Councillor Adrian Hardman, the leader of Worcestershire County Council, said: "This looks like criminal activity because he's inciting racial hatred - he should do the honourable thing and resign because he has brought shame on the county." The attacks are currently being investigated by UKIP HQ in London, and have been condemned as “disgusting” by senior figures at Worcestershire County Council this morning.

Councillor Kitson has only just been through training for being an elected politician, and is one of four UKIP members to have just been elected to the authority for the first time ever. If he is removed from his position it would be the shortest spell any elected politician has ever had in County Hall - and would trigger a by-election.

A UKIP spokesman told the Worcester News: “The party is looking into it because we need to find out exactly what has gone on here.

“We don’t want to dismiss him outright until we investigate it. Our understanding is that he has offered to resign over it, but we need to establish what’s happened. A conversation will be taking place and if we find out he has behaved inappropriately, he would have to go."

Councillor Peter McDonald, leader of Worcestershire’s Labour group, said: “These remarks are disgusting and it brings the whole office of being a councillor into disrepute.

“It’s a terrible mess, he has let himself down, the council down, and the voters who elected him in down - they did not vote for this. It's terribly sad and pretty shocking what he has done - this man is now an elected councillor."

The authority has already had one request for the Standards Committee to investigate, and has released a statement in the last few minutes.

Simon Mallinson, head of legal and democratic services, said: "Whilst we would avoid commenting on any individual case at this stage, elected members are expected to comply with the council's code of conduct when they act in their role as county councillors. Any complaint that this code has been breached when acting in such a role will be carefully considered."

Coun Kitson has yet to respond to calls from the press, but Wyre Forest's UKIP branch has confirmed he is under investigation.

Neil Jukes, the chairman, said: "He is under investigation and we will be taking it very seriously.

"I must admit, I was totally unaware of this and when he became a candidate, like all the rest we asked him to sign a form declaring he had no skeletons in the closet and had nothing which would cause us any embarrassment. We will have to wait and see."

Muslim Mumshad Ahmed, a former county councillor, said: "I am sickened and disgusted by this, I cannot believe the hatred he is creating. I will be taking a petition around mosques tonight to get people to sign it, this man is doing something very dangerous - when a Koran was burned there was riots around the world. I cannot see why he's done this."

Meanwhile, Councillor Simon Geraghty, deputy leader of the county council, has called it "heinous".

"You find youself lost for words," he said. "It's absolutely dreadful and he clearly is not the right person to be a councillor with those views."

Several examples of racist views of some of it's candidates to stand as UKIP councillors (26/04/2013):

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/10022138/Racism-Romanians-and-chemical-castration-what-Ukip-candidates-really-believe.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... lieve.html</a>

UKIP is facing questions over its vetting after campaigners criticised the “far-Right connections” and “cuckoo conspiracy theories” of some of its potential councillors. The party has been surging in polls ahead of local elections on May 2, with the latest survey suggesting it could win 100 seats. Nigel Farage, its leader, admitted the party had not checked the backgrounds of all its 1,700 candidates.

One candidate, Richard Wilkins, standing in the Isle of Wight, wrote on Twitter that Mick Philpott, who killed six of his children in a house fire, should have faced “chemical castration” to stop him claiming benefits for more than two children. He suggested Philpott should be “hung or burned at the stake” and objected to police charges against “three blokes [who] kill a pedo”, adding “if they can’t do it we will”.

Chris Scotton, who is standing in Leicester, has a Facebook page that endorses the far-Right English Defence League. He has “liked” Facebook groups with names such as “No more mosques in Britain”, “Women deserve as much respect as men … LOL joke” and “Racism? No mate it’s just ethnic banter”.

David Waller, a candidate in Malling, Kent, referred to risk of tuberculosis after barriers to Bulgarian and Romanian immigrants are lifted next year. “I would suggest not going to London after January 2014 unless you absolutely have to and if you do, adopt the Japanese practice of wearing a face mask,” he wrote on his blog. Mr Waller later told The Daily Telegraph he had not meant the remark to be serious and he is in no way xenophobic.

It suspended Anna-Maria Crampton, a candidate in East Sussex, over alleged comments blaming Jewish people for the Holocaust, and Sue Bowen in Cornwall after it emerged she was a former member of the British National Party.

Peter Wilding, a founder of the pro-Europe British Influence campaign, said Mr Farage should not “get away with a smile while saying we haven’t done due diligence” and criticised the “cuckoo conspiracy theories” of some candidates. A UKIP spokesman said tonight that Conservatives were trying to “traduce people supporting UKIP”.

“UKIP is made up of ordinary people many of whom are young and have made the odd excessive comment on new media,” he said. “I am perfectly prepared to answer every criticism that [Conservative] central office has laid at our door after they have told me how many Romanians and Bulgarians they expect to come to London in the next five years.”

This would be a huge concern if I did not want to be portrayed as racist. I'd also consider what the party was doing by not vetting candidates properly. It would make me wonder if those are the obvious ones, who has slipped through the net already?

Their manifesto has an 8 statement of principles for immigration whilst its policy is under review, but then makes the point that its plans could not be implemented whilst we are an EU member, and that is one of the reasons they want to move out of the EU.

This suggests to me that what they are looking to implement contravenes the European Convention of Human Rights and the European Convention on Refugees. That in and of itself would also worry me greatly. What have they got planned for us that would require an erosion of human rights? That suggests (rightly or wrongly) a lurch towards fascism. Again, if I did not want to be portrayed in that light, I probably would not be voting for a party that seems to be standing for it?

I could be a million miles off pat, but from what I've looked at, including their own policies, I would worry the epithet "BNP in suits" is scarily accurate.

I can't work out if they are being clever or are just lucky, bits and pieces indicate they are racist but openly you cant prove it, so everyone who votes for them can claim not to be racist and also many non racists will fall for their policies of just being pro british, there whole scheme is to get the tories to lurch to the right

 

[Anonymous]

I can't work out if they are being clever or are just lucky, bits and pieces indicate they are racist but openly you cant prove it, so everyone who votes for them can claim not to be racist and also many non racists will fall for their policies of just being pro british, there whole scheme is to get the tories to lurch to the right

A 6 and two 3s mate I think. Politics tends to lurch rightward in financial crises. Once the need for scapegoats arise, parties like this gain a foothold. Sadly, the Commies are no more so we've had to revert to immigrants and the poor to take their place as our latest bette noir.

The one thing UKIP have said that I do agree with is there needs to be another way. I just don't believe for one minute UKIP is that way.