Bob Crow dead

[cyberblue]

RIP wish we had more trade union leaders like him ,especialy in the Health Service then things might not be as shit as they are .look forward to hearing the story from Tidyman soon

 

[ChesterRdBlue]

Seemed to be a great leader and did his job fantastically well in looking after his members. As ever thoughts to his friends and family and 52 really is no age, especially for someone who must have given so much of himself to his beliefs over the years.

One things for sure, if there were more like him, there would be a lot less workers getting fucked over and then being expected to be grateful for it.

 

[law74]

Tricky one for me this but I will do my best.

in taxpayer funded housing to boot (that really is taking the piss whichever way you look at it, social housing for a man on a six figure salary? really?).

By living in social housing he would have been paying the rent for that property, that rent was designed to go back into the pot for the refurbishment and replacement of social housing and to subsidise the cost to the public purse for providing housing for those that for whatever reason could not provide housing for themselves.

 

[intheknow!]

Bob Crow was a working class political streetfighter, who achieved on behalf of his Trade Union members. If there were more people like Bob Crow, then this Country wouldn't have a massive inequality problem, wouldn't be engaged in a 'race to the bottom', where there has been an explosion of zero hours contracts (exploitation of working people in all but name) and millions trapped in shitty minimum wage jobs having to meet the basic cost of living via tax credits, housing benefit etc etc, whilst the those at the top get even richer.

As Ken Livingstone has said, Crow's members are the very few, if not the only, working class profession in London that earn a good wage. Why shouldn't working class people earn a decent living?

The Right, ever looking to divide and rule, bang on about his salary or him living in a Council house, or his foreign holidays. But Bob Crow believed that working class people, working an honest living should earn enough to live good lives. Look at what he did leading the Union, the hours he put in etc, he was worth every penny.

The political class is so professionalised now. They attended the same schools, the same universities and come from a very narrow political class. When do you ever hear someone in public life with Bob Crow's accent? Never these days.

RIP Bob Crow.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Bob Crow was a working class political streetfighter, who achieved on behalf of his Trade Union members. If there were more people like Bob Crow, then this Country wouldn't have a massive inequality problem, wouldn't be engaged in a 'race to the bottom', where there has been an explosion of zero hours contracts (exploitation of working people in all but name) and millions trapped in shitty minimum wage jobs having to meet the basic cost of living via tax credits, housing benefit etc etc, whilst the those at the top get even richer.

As Ken Livingstone has said, Crow's members are the very few, if not the only, working class profession in London that earn a good wage. Why shouldn't working class people earn a decent living?

The Right, ever looking to divide and rule, bang on about his salary or him living in a Council house, or his foreign holidays. But Bob Crow believed that working class people, working an honest living should earn enough to live good lives. Look at what he did leading the Union, the hours he put in etc, he was worth every penny.

The political class is so professionalised now. They attended the same schools, the same universities and come from a very narrow political class. When do you ever hear someone in public life with Bob Crow's accent? Never these days.

RIP Bob Crow.

Ken Livingstone talks complete bollocks then although that is no surprise

 

[bluevengence]

Tricky one for me this but I will do my best.

in taxpayer funded housing to boot (that really is taking the piss whichever way you look at it, social housing for a man on a six figure salary? really?).

By living in social housing he would have been paying the rent for that property, that rent was designed to go back into the pot for the refurbishment and replacement of social housing and to subsidise the cost to the public purse for providing housing for those that for whatever reason could not provide housing for themselves.

My parents lived in a council house for over 50 years,the rent they paid probably payed for the house twice over they were never subsidised with fook all...the money
from the Thatcher fire sale of council houses was not allowed by local authorties to be used to replace the sold off properties.
and still sits in council coffers


met him a couple of times no airs or graces.. salt of the earth....RIP Bpb wish we had a few more like you

 

[law74]

Bob Crow was a working class political streetfighter, who achieved on behalf of his Trade Union members. If there were more people like Bob Crow, then this Country wouldn't have a massive inequality problem, wouldn't be engaged in a 'race to the bottom', where there has been an explosion of zero hours contracts (exploitation of working people in all but name) and millions trapped in shitty minimum wage jobs having to meet the basic cost of living via tax credits, housing benefit etc etc, whilst the those at the top get even richer.

As Ken Livingstone has said, Crow's members are the very few, if not the only, working class profession in London that earn a good wage. Why shouldn't working class people earn a decent living?

The Right, ever looking to divide and rule, bang on about his salary or him living in a Council house, or his foreign holidays. But Bob Crow believed that working class people, working an honest living should earn enough to live good lives. Look at what he did leading the Union, the hours he put in etc, he was worth every penny.

The political class is so professionalised now. They attended the same schools, the same universities and come from a very narrow political class. When do you ever hear someone in public life with Bob Crow's accent? Never these days.

RIP Bob Crow.

Ken Livingstone talks complete bollocks then although that is no surprise

Have a look at any of the reports on the gap between the have's and the have-nots in the UK in the last 30 years, the gap is getting wider every year and the rate in which it is getting wider is accelerating, the Trade Union movement and the old Labour Party changed this in the post war years to a degree, but more recently it has now returned to the need for food-banks for the poor in our "society"

 

[Blue Til Death]

Tricky one for me this but I will do my best.

in taxpayer funded housing to boot (that really is taking the piss whichever way you look at it, social housing for a man on a six figure salary? really?).

By living in social housing he would have been paying the rent for that property, that rent was designed to go back into the pot for the refurbishment and replacement of social housing and to subsidise the cost to the public purse for providing housing for those that for whatever reason could not provide housing for themselves.

Or failing that he could have bought his own house and let a homeless person occupy his council house. You cant defend the indefensible I'm afraid, the man was a hypocrite. He was a character though and its a shame for anyone to die so young..!

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

Bob Crow was a working class political streetfighter, who achieved on behalf of his Trade Union members. If there were more people like Bob Crow, then this Country wouldn't have a massive inequality problem, wouldn't be engaged in a 'race to the bottom', where there has been an explosion of zero hours contracts (exploitation of working people in all but name) and millions trapped in shitty minimum wage jobs having to meet the basic cost of living via tax credits, housing benefit etc etc, whilst the those at the top get even richer.

As Ken Livingstone has said, Crow's members are the very few, if not the only, working class profession in London that earn a good wage. Why shouldn't working class people earn a decent living?

The Right, ever looking to divide and rule, bang on about his salary or him living in a Council house, or his foreign holidays. But Bob Crow believed that working class people, working an honest living should earn enough to live good lives. Look at what he did leading the Union, the hours he put in etc, he was worth every penny.

The political class is so professionalised now. They attended the same schools, the same universities and come from a very narrow political class. When do you ever hear someone in public life with Bob Crow's accent? Never these days.

RIP Bob Crow.

Ken Livingstone talks complete bollocks then although that is no surprise

Have a look at any of the reports on the gap between the have's and the have-nots in the UK in the last 30 years, the gap is getting wider every year and the rate in which it is getting wider is accelerating, the Trade Union movement and the old Labour Party changed this in the post war years to a degree, but more recently it has now returned to the need for food-banks for the poor in our "society"

My argument that Ken Livingstone talks complete bollocks on this issue still stands. You are right to a degree but its neither what Livingstone said or what I was arguing against

 

[intheknow!]

Bob Crow was a working class political streetfighter, who achieved on behalf of his Trade Union members. If there were more people like Bob Crow, then this Country wouldn't have a massive inequality problem, wouldn't be engaged in a 'race to the bottom', where there has been an explosion of zero hours contracts (exploitation of working people in all but name) and millions trapped in shitty minimum wage jobs having to meet the basic cost of living via tax credits, housing benefit etc etc, whilst the those at the top get even richer.

As Ken Livingstone has said, Crow's members are the very few, if not the only, working class profession in London that earn a good wage. Why shouldn't working class people earn a decent living?

The Right, ever looking to divide and rule, bang on about his salary or him living in a Council house, or his foreign holidays. But Bob Crow believed that working class people, working an honest living should earn enough to live good lives. Look at what he did leading the Union, the hours he put in etc, he was worth every penny.

The political class is so professionalised now. They attended the same schools, the same universities and come from a very narrow political class. When do you ever hear someone in public life with Bob Crow's accent? Never these days.

RIP Bob Crow.

Ken Livingstone talks complete bollocks then although that is no surprise

Livingstone doesn't get everything right. His scandalous lack of urgently needed affordable and social house building in London, during his time as Mayor, is one thing that springs to mind. However what he says about Bob Crow is spot on. RMT members are not earning the shitty minimum wage of £6.45 or whatever, having to have their wages topped up by the Government, through tax credits and housing benefit just to live, no they are earning a decent wage. Crow was happy to take the fight to the government of the day, Labour or Tory, to stand up for his workers.<br /><br />-- Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:48 pm --<br /><br />

Tricky one for me this but I will do my best.

in taxpayer funded housing to boot (that really is taking the piss whichever way you look at it, social housing for a man on a six figure salary? really?).

By living in social housing he would have been paying the rent for that property, that rent was designed to go back into the pot for the refurbishment and replacement of social housing and to subsidise the cost to the public purse for providing housing for those that for whatever reason could not provide housing for themselves.

Or failing that he could have bought his own house and let a homeless person occupy his council house. You cant defend the indefensible I'm afraid, the man was a hypocrite. He was a character though and its a shame for anyone to die so young..!

Why is it hypocritical? Bob Crow believed in social housing, and was quoted as saying: 'I was born in a council house; as far as I'm concerned, I will die in one.'

Where is the hypocrisy? He believed in Council housing and was paying full rent for it.