Bobby Charlton passes away at the age of 86

deano ou812 said:
Shocking in the sense it wasn’t picked up till a few days later,he could be still here if they’d have checked him properly,but unfortunately accidents like this are all too common in nursing homes or at home ..
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Sad to say but would he really still want to be here,suffering with dementia with little hope of recovery isn’t much of a life. May he now rest in peace.
 
1961_vintage said:
It was fairly common practice back then. You loved football, so you went with your friends and family to watch football (even if you were willing the opposition to win whenever it was swamp week).

Having said that, I think I lasted 3 games of being surrounded by the deluded, cultish, mouthy twats before I binned it off.
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I remember speaking to a couple of older Arsenal chaps in the pub and they said they would go watch Tottenham in the 60s as they were the best in England. I couldn't wrap my head around it and initially thought they were on the wind up. It seemed it was common practice to watch as much football as you could for entertainment

It made me wonder at what point did it stop completely because the 70s and 80s and early 90s were rather naughty and segregation seemed important
 
1961_vintage said:
Early to mid 1970's I think, particularly as social unrest started to become more of an issue.
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Agreed. In the late 60s my brother, a united supporter, and I went to watch united and City on alternate weeks and the Central League (reserve) games if the first teams weren't playing. I was at united's European Cup semi final at OT in1969. There was negligible football on the box, let alone aggressively partisan pundits to wind you up, and you didn't hear much about other clubs. What you did know about individual players came from international matches or collecting player cards. In those days, we'd be entertained by the odd fight on the terraces usually between two individuals you could see rolling around on the terraces as the crowd parted in a circle around it.

The 70s, I think, was quite a grim time generally and I know that by 1974, I'd really grown to hate them with a passion which means that, for me at least, something clicked between 1969 and 1973. Thinking about it, it was probably puberty.
 
all banter aside nice to see him laid to rest with due respect. When you consider what he won and when he won it then it was quite a career. He won the Ballon D'or when it wasn't just alternated between Ronaldo and Messi but what I think was clearly most impressive is it was only he and Nobby Stiles in English football who had a career in which they won the European and World Cups.
 
Just wondering if there any blues on here who were in the city today who paid their respects as his funeral cortege passed by?
 
Crouchinho said:
I remember speaking to a couple of older Arsenal chaps in the pub and they said they would go watch Tottenham in the 60s as they were the best in England. I couldn't wrap my head around it and initially thought they were on the wind up. It seemed it was common practice to watch as much football as you could for entertainment

It made me wonder at what point did it stop completely because the 70s and 80s and early 90s were rather naughty and segregation seemed important
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My Dad used to go to City at home one week and ushited, if he couldn't get to the City away match , the next week. Especially before the Munich air disaster.
 
In the late sixties and early seventies I went along to Old Trafford on my own on occasions to see the football. It was good football, too. Second best in the city, but still good. The fans didn't seem such gobshites in those days, but maybe that's distance softening down my perspective. Anyway, kept myself to myself, was simply there to watch the football.
I do think social media and the media in general have a lot to answer for. Any old Tom Dick and Harry can mouth off these days, and they have a platform for it. Indeed, they're encouraged to do it.

Charlton had deceptive acceleration, and a swerve to go with it. He'd make the space for himself, and then whack that ball. A Rolls-Royce when he was in his prime.
 
Rivalry aside, rest in peace to the greatest English player of all time. Huge respect for the man and what he achieved in an England shirt.
 
eastmanc said:
My Dad used to go to City at home one week and ushited, if he couldn't get to the City away match , the next week. Especially before the Munich air disaster.
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To think modern fans would never in a million years go to watch one team one week and your rivals the week later.. older City and United fans did it just like here with Liverpool and Everton older fans. I suppose it shows how strong the love of football was back then.
 
Tom Ford said:
To think modern fans would never in a million years go to watch one team one week and your rivals the week later.. older City and United fans did it just like here with Liverpool and Everton older fans. I suppose it shows how strong the love of football was back then.
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I sort of did and then the attitude of young United fans in the mid seventies told me sod that. I was younger but never forgot being spat at in the school corridor by a three years older rag. Shame but those moments form you. Bobby RIP as he preceded that with Best and Law.
 
Crouchinho said:
I remember speaking to a couple of older Arsenal chaps in the pub and they said they would go watch Tottenham in the 60s as they were the best in England. I couldn't wrap my head around it and initially thought they were on the wind up. It seemed it was common practice to watch as much football as you could for entertainment

It made me wonder at what point did it stop completely because the 70s and 80s and early 90s were rather naughty and segregation seemed important
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I started going to watch football in 1968. At that age, like my mates, you lived, breathed and slept football. Every spare minute was kicking a ball about. Going to the games was a huge treat. Money was tight so you begged, scrimped, saved, did a bit of work, mine was caddying, anything you could to get the money to go to the game. My mates were a mixture of reds and Blues. In those early days I wasn't allowed, nor could I afford to go to away games. There was no live games, no internet, I don't think local radio existed. I couldn't afford a transistor radio anyway.

If City were playing away the weekend was awful. You didn't even get to see the highlights unless we were the game selected for motd or Sundays big match. My red mates would be going to Old Trafford and try and talk me into going with them. I had one mate who had more money than the rest of us. I kid you not this kid had a savings account at 13. He did a milk and paper round and caddied too. He'd often offer to help with the cost or even pay me in if I paid my own bus fare. Therefore I went to a fair few games at Old Trafford.

Back then United had Best, Law, Charlton and most teams played exciting attacking football. As a kid going to games was the most exciting thing in your world. It's hard to get this across to people only used to the modern world, it was totally different back then.

For me Bobby Charlton was the one player at United I couldn't dislike. He always came across as a quiet decent gentleman and a great player. He was also instrumental in England winning the world cup. Such a sad end after a rich full life, dying as a result of a fall while in a care home suffering from dementia. Rest in peace Sir Bobby.
 
I've never closely followed BC s career..
Never looked back .until he died.
We are all aware of the world cup winning team and his influence
I was amazed however to find that his debut for utd was against..Charlton..and he scored..
A few weeks later..utd played Charlton again...and he scored a hat trick
.Pushing colours aside...what a way to announce yourself to the supporters....
All this was obviously well b4 the Air Disaster and world cup win....
So, yes ,I have to say what a Brilliant Football player.
 
Tom Ford said:
To think modern fans would never in a million years go to watch one team one week and your rivals the week later.. older City and United fans did it just like here with Liverpool and Everton older fans. I suppose it shows how strong the love of football was back then.
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And how cheap it was, I guess. Imagine trying to do that nowadays without remortgaging the house.
 
I'm With Stupid said:
And how cheap it was, I guess. Imagine trying to do that nowadays without remortgaging the house.
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Yeah no way most could afford to watch both teams nowadays, in those days it was possible tho, I suppose even tho it might not of been your team it would still be your home town club which represented where you were from and lived, there was a strong bond back then between club and community unlike now where being able to just pick a club to support for any old reason is seen as perfectly acceptable.
 
deano ou812 said:
Shocking in the sense it wasn’t picked up till a few days later,he could be still here if they’d have checked him properly,but unfortunately accidents like this are all too common in nursing homes or at home ..
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It happens before it can be prevented many times, my boyfriend's grandmother had a nasty fall in her care home and that was it for her onwards. Her health deteriorating rapidly and a week or two later she was gone.
 
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