Borussia Dortmund (A) - CL QF | Post-Match Thread

Gordyola said:
If the ball ricochets off another body part then hits a hand it isn't handball that's clear in the law. In this case his arm was extended (unnatural) and it didn't come off his head onto his arm so clear pen under the law as it is at the moment
Interesting that the home Tv channel was backing the home team would BT have done the same if it had been City?
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But this is my main problem with the handball rule, they've taken a common sense approach, which admittedly makes the rule greyer in terms of consistency and application, and tried to apply a series of multiple nested if, but and when clauses that try to legislate for a near infinite amount of possibilities.

Extracted from the fa rule (the whole thing is nearly unreadable);


It is an offence if a player:

even if accidental, immediately:
touches the ball with their hand/arm when:
the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger

--Few lines later--

Except for the above offences, it is not an offence if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm:

directly from the player’s own head or body (including the foot)


So which rule takes precedence?!?! They are in contradiction of each other given last night's incident with Can. For me it's pen all day long and thankfully the ref had interpreted with unnatural body position but the law clearly states for both interpretations. How worrying.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
The term "sportswashing" is just a fake narrative with no evidence to back it up. The Guardian would have you believe that the entire creation of the City Football Group with clubs across the world is just an attempt by Sheikh Mansour to improve the reputation of his nation. Is that why he invested billions in Barclays Bank? Is that why he has invested hundreds of millions in the tech and science sectors, and health, and education, and renewable energy, and has a property portfolio of more than £500m in the UK? Is that why our owner has invested in football teams in Japan and Girona?
Given that he has already trebled the value of his total investment in Manchester City (let alone his other investments) is it possible that he may just be interested in making profits like every other business in the world?
Is it too much to expect that a journalist like Jonathan Wilson should spend some time on Google doing basic research so he doesn't produce such drivel? Is he incompetent or, like so many others, is he just malicious?
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I think you've answered your own question at the end. Great post.
 
Only a few hours sleep,up early for a 8am tee-off at Disley GC,all the chat was previous nights games,brother-in-law (rag)was in awe of the work rate,possession,control and brilliant first touch,and the teamwork.How we dominated play after going a goal down,on the 9th hole already,for a laugh we talked of Klopp s flops,how the (media’s)10 Year domination collapsed in the blink of an eye.17th hole so it must be Bellingham and commentary by Darke,game over already,it’s true time does fly when your enjoying yourself,didn’t,t feel knackered like I usually do.The Sky was a beauty full blue,God wills it.PS The was crap,course was excellent.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
Is it too much to expect that a journalist like Jonathan Wilson should spend some time on Google doing basic research so he doesn't produce such drivel? Is he incompetent or, like so many others, is he just malicious?
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I quite like Jonathan Wilson - he says a lot of good things about the team and the way we play - but he always seems to come back to this idea that we're somehow tainted as a club because of our owner. To me, it looks like virtue signalling rather than incompetence or malice - don't forget that he writes for the Guardian.

To be honest, I'm not sure what the benefit of sportswashing is even supposed to be. If your country is doing iffy things, the last thing you'd want to do is shine a spotlight on yourself. The money that Abu Dhabi, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia have ploughed into international sports looks like an attempt to broaden their investment portfolios in preparation for the end of the oil money, and perhaps a way to become part of the international community (with all the benefits that brings). We've already seen some positive changes in Saudi Arabia in recent years. The best way to deal with 'bad actor' countries seems to be to encourage them to join the global community rather than shunning them. You may have to hold your nose while they clean themselves up, but I'd rather have a Middle Eastern country buying a little favor and gradually modernizing than another North Korea.
 
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