Brazil v italy.

Zealot87 said:
Ranocchia was the only player from Inter tonight.

Btw, great performances by De Sciglio (this guy could became a great player), Cerci(so underrated) and Balotelli.

I disagree slightly, should have done better defensively for Brazil's two goals, caught out of position on both. But he has a lot of promise, and time is definitely on his side. Cerci was good, I remember us being linked with him but nothing materialized, as was Balotelli. Overall, a very entertaining friendly, and I'm really liking the look of Italy at the moment.
 
Rocket-footed kolarov said:
Yes, you cretin he is worth a truck load of cash, whether you think 6o mil is an overvaluation or not. He made both goals for Brazil, has a very good scoring rate at club and national team level for a wide forward. You can't be on fire all the time, in every match, or for a whole match. He is 21 years old for fuck sake and has only had 4 senior seasons and yet you wouldn't dare name a Brazil team without him.
Yes but when he will play in europe we will see, right now, he is not comparable to the european players.
 
lancs blue said:
karen7 said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
He's played in the Premier League. Is that high enough?

i feel average players saying that world class playesr should have done this or not done that during a match is wrong.i stand corrected if he has achieved higher than i know about!

Average players often make the best managers, so presumably they're telling world class players what they should and shouldn't do all the time.

Average players with charisma might make top class managers. That excludes the bore Carlisle. I had to turn down the sound on my TV.

Brilliant from Mario
 
afhald said:
Rocket-footed kolarov said:
Yes, you cretin he is worth a truck load of cash, whether you think 6o mil is an overvaluation or not. He made both goals for Brazil, has a very good scoring rate at club and national team level for a wide forward. You can't be on fire all the time, in every match, or for a whole match. He is 21 years old for fuck sake and has only had 4 senior seasons and yet you wouldn't dare name a Brazil team without him.
Yes but when he will play in europe we will see, right now, he is not comparable to the european players.

Senseless cliche my friend... boy is quality and only thing that could stop him being same in Europe is if he'd come and train on prostitutes instead on training pitches.
 
Great play from both sides, Italy were better, I'd give Julio Cesar man of the match, if it hadn't been for him Balotelli would have had a hattrick. What a game though,

There is no other 22 year old CF in the world better than Balotelli right now.
 
Tim of the Oak said:
lancs blue said:
karen7 said:
i feel average players saying that world class playesr should have done this or not done that during a match is wrong.i stand corrected if he has achieved higher than i know about!

Average players often make the best managers, so presumably they're telling world class players what they should and shouldn't do all the time.

Average players with charisma might make top class managers. That excludes the bore Carlisle. I had to turn down the sound on my TV.

Brilliant from Mario

Ferguson has charisma???
 
MSP said:
afhald said:
Rocket-footed kolarov said:
Yes, you cretin he is worth a truck load of cash, whether you think 6o mil is an overvaluation or not. He made both goals for Brazil, has a very good scoring rate at club and national team level for a wide forward. You can't be on fire all the time, in every match, or for a whole match. He is 21 years old for fuck sake and has only had 4 senior seasons and yet you wouldn't dare name a Brazil team without him.
Yes but when he will play in europe we will see, right now, he is not comparable to the european players.

Senseless cliche my friend... boy is quality and only thing that could stop him being same in Europe is if he'd come and train on prostitutes instead on training pitches.

Spot on, MSP. All the Brazilians in the starting 11 looked impressive tonight if I did n't already know which players were home or European based it would be difficult to guess. Most people that bring up this line of reasoning have very little knowledge of the Brazilian and South American game, yes the standard is lower that is a given; Brazil and Argentina are the two major exporters of footballers, from journeyman, to "good" players and to superstars.
One argument that often crops up is Pele's goal scoring record isn't as impressive as if it had been in Europe or Messi doesn't have to match it because he is playing at a higher level than Pele. That is stupid argument for a number of reasons.
1) because when Pele played all the best south Americans played in South America, he undoubtedly played at the highest standard of club football.

2) Stats don't make a great player, they may be indicative, but then again they may just be stats; if Mario Gomez scores 30 goals in a season it is not the same as if Mario Balotelli scores 30 goals a season.

3) Nobody cares about Pele's 1000 goals record apart from Pele!
 

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