Brazil v italy.

mat said:
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Went back and watched the game again.
One of the BEST friendlies Ive seen in........ forever?

Italia played better, but despite that, Brazil showed just how dangerous they really are even when being 'outplayed'. They have so much quality that they can create goals out of thin air. Credit to them. If they clean it up, they can definitely win it all at Home.

Italy played really nice football. So refreshing to finally not have to hear "boring" everytime someone mentions an Italy game.

A couple key players missing for both sides, but overall an absolute cracker of a match.

Can't wait to see more of Italy on Tuesday v Malta. Should be another Balotelli gong show... and truly expect el shaarawy to bury 1-2 with his pace and skill from the wing

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supercrystal7 said:
MSP said:
Wh's the guy commenting on BeInSport, usually does Barcelona games too?

He is most mental commentator I've heard, you think he is cumming whenever someone does anything half decent on the pitch... woaaahhhhh, ahhhhh, magicaaaal, woaaaah, magnificient, waaaahhhhh ,lol

-- Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:06 pm --

supercrystal7 said:
Despite Pirlo being a brilliant player for so long and dominating several games in many Champions League campaigns he only became rated in England so highly because of the game in the Euro's. Try telling anyone Pirlo was as good as Scholes, Lampard or Gerrard before that game.

Just as Ibra started to be rated when he scored 4 against England.

Yes exactly like that, but the commentators and journalist will now pretend how they always rated them and mention their fantastic record etc.

To Pirlo - he has one or two remarkable scenes - but was not really great apart from it.
 
Rocket-footed kolarov said:
MSP said:
afhald said:
Yes but when he will play in europe we will see, right now, he is not comparable to the european players.

Senseless cliche my friend... boy is quality and only thing that could stop him being same in Europe is if he'd come and train on prostitutes instead on training pitches.

Spot on, MSP. All the Brazilians in the starting 11 looked impressive tonight if I did n't already know which players were home or European based it would be difficult to guess. Most people that bring up this line of reasoning have very little knowledge of the Brazilian and South American game, yes the standard is lower that is a given; Brazil and Argentina are the two major exporters of footballers, from journeyman, to "good" players and to superstars.
One argument that often crops up is Pele's goal scoring record isn't as impressive as if it had been in Europe or Messi doesn't have to match it because he is playing at a higher level than Pele. That is stupid argument for a number of reasons.
1) because when Pele played all the best south Americans played in South America, he undoubtedly played at the highest standard of club football.

2) Stats don't make a great player, they may be indicative, but then again they may just be stats; if Mario Gomez scores 30 goals in a season it is not the same as if Mario Balotelli scores 30 goals a season.

3) Nobody cares about Pele's 1000 goals record apart from Pele!AND EVERY BRAZILIAN FROM AROUND HIS GENERATION AND EVERY ONE THAT WILL EVER BE BORN
 
BoyBlue_1985 said:
Rocket-footed kolarov said:
MSP said:
Senseless cliche my friend... boy is quality and only thing that could stop him being same in Europe is if he'd come and train on prostitutes instead on training pitches.

Spot on, MSP. All the Brazilians in the starting 11 looked impressive tonight if I did n't already know which players were home or European based it would be difficult to guess. Most people that bring up this line of reasoning have very little knowledge of the Brazilian and South American game, yes the standard is lower that is a given; Brazil and Argentina are the two major exporters of footballers, from journeyman, to "good" players and to superstars.
One argument that often crops up is Pele's goal scoring record isn't as impressive as if it had been in Europe or Messi doesn't have to match it because he is playing at a higher level than Pele. That is stupid argument for a number of reasons.
1) because when Pele played all the best south Americans played in South America, he undoubtedly played at the highest standard of club football.

2) Stats don't make a great player, they may be indicative, but then again they may just be stats; if Mario Gomez scores 30 goals in a season it is not the same as if Mario Balotelli scores 30 goals a season.

3) Nobody cares about Pele's 1000 goals record apart from Pele!AND EVERY BRAZILIAN FROM AROUND HIS GENERATION AND EVERY ONE THAT WILL EVER BE BORN

Yes, but you have to take it with a pinch of salt, people like to discuss things that are measurable, why? Because a quantitative comparison gives an easy answer, where as a qualitative comparison of player skill is more difficult; It is your own personal preference whether you think Pele or Maradona is the better player but there is no debating who scored the most goals.

As I said in my previous post stats are indicative of skill but they are influenced by a number of factors.
Football isn't like American sports like Baseball or NFL it doesn't fit in easily to a stats analysis, which explains why "moneyball" hasn't translated to any great success.

Pele's record is not only a result of his sheer brilliance as a player, but also due to the circumstances of the time; He scored virtually a goal a game in the league for Santos and played a huge amount of friendlies. The way the game is played nowadays it would be bizarre to contemplate matching Pele's record, if you really wanted to though you wouldn't play at all like Pele or Messi, your best chance would be to play most of your career at a lower standard of football operating as a goal hanging forward.
 

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