Britain's Ruling Elite

[Stoned Rose]

Re: Britains Ruling Elite

Its time to scrap all this outdated old school tie shite that goes on in the UK, start by getting rid of the Royals, Earls, Lords, Duke's, all that outdated class drenched bollocks

Its all outmoded and all holding the country back

and dont tell me the Queen brings in tourists, Paris is the the No 1 tourist city in the world, and no Royals to be seen.

Bollocks

Why?

 

[mackenzie]

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I just don't get these fuckers who when you talk about injustice, go on about "chips on shoulders" or "inverted snobbery"

These lot are keeping EVERYONE down, they laugh at all of us, even the ones who have convinced themselves they are up there with the elite because they have worked their boxes off and can afford a 5 series BMW and a mock Tudor house in Bramhall.

These fuckers are pulling the strings, they have us working for them, they get all the top jobs, they keep zillions in personal wealth, they keep money in the family, they have taken over politics and WE, US, YOU are paying for it.

These people who think they are sitting on the top table with these leeches are feeding on nothing more than scraps from their mouths. Anyone who defends them has some sort of Stockholm syndrome. "Jealous" "bitter" you bet I fuckin am. People from my background get put down by being called jealous, kept from questioning whether it's fair for so few to have so much, it's like the slave master calling his resentful prisoners jealous.

We are being had. Look who has the top jobs in all walks of life. Not many scousers heading up the top companies, not many Geordies making the big military decisions, not many Cornish voices in government.

What is it about people that thinks it's ok to be ruled by a particular class that would never allow us to be part of their gang. I wouldn't mind if they were any good but most of them are shit. IDS failure at everything he's done. Gideon Osborne, a 2:1 degree in modern history but weirdly allowed to run our nation's finances, would a moss side lad be allowed that leg up? Would he fuck.

The minute we get rid of this cloud over our country is the minute we can move on.

The Waldegrave family in particular have enjoyed influence for hundreds of years, mainly from their ability to stay close to the throne and to build on that patrimony. Even Cameron is a descendant of royalty.

 

[Stoned Rose]

Re: Britains Ruling Elite

I just don't get these fuckers who when you talk about injustice, go on about "chips on shoulders" or "inverted snobbery"

These lot are keeping EVERYONE down, they laugh at all of us, even the ones who have convinced themselves they are up there with the elite because they have worked their boxes off and can afford a 5 series BMW and a mock Tudor house in Bramhall.

These fuckers are pulling the strings, they have us working for them, they get all the top jobs, they keep zillions in personal wealth, they keep money in the family, they have taken over politics and WE, US, YOU are paying for it.

These people who think they are sitting on the top table with these leeches are feeding on nothing more than scraps from their mouths. Anyone who defends them has some sort of Stockholm syndrome. "Jealous" "bitter" you bet I fuckin am. People from my background get put down by being called jealous, kept from questioning whether it's fair for so few to have so much, it's like the slave master calling his resentful prisoners jealous.

We are being had. Look who has the top jobs in all walks of life. Not many scousers heading up the top companies, not many Geordies making the big military decisions, not many Cornish voices in government.

What is it about people that thinks it's ok to be ruled by a particular class that would never allow us to be part of their gang. I wouldn't mind if they were any good but most of them are shit. IDS failure at everything he's done. Gideon Osborne, a 2:1 degree in modern history but weirdly allowed to run our nation's finances, would a moss side lad be allowed that leg up? Would he fuck.

The minute we get rid of this cloud over our country is the minute we can move on.

This.

 

[brass neck]

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And it's not just the Tories. Harriet Harman. The deputy leader of the Labour party, the fuckin Labour party, is related to the queen. The Waldergraves, the Rothchilds and others all controlling us like fuckin Geppetto!

 

[mackenzie]

Re: Britains Ruling Elite

And it's not just the Tories. Harriet Harman. The deputy leader of the Labour party, the fuckin Labour party, is related to the queen. The Waldergraves, the Rothchilds and others all controlling us like fuckin Geppetto!

As much as I love Richard III thank God he didn't have legitimate kids otherwise the bloody Neville's would be up there too! ;-)

 

[remember arthur mann]

Re: Britains Ruling Elite

And it's not just the Tories. Harriet Harman. The deputy leader of the Labour party, the fuckin Labour party, is related to the queen. The Waldergraves, the Rothchilds and others all controlling us like fuckin Geppetto!

Time for the Guillotine I think !

 

[SWP's back]

Re: Britains Ruling Elite

I just don't get these fuckers who when you talk about injustice, go on about "chips on shoulders" or "inverted snobbery"

These lot are keeping EVERYONE down, they laugh at all of us, even the ones who have convinced themselves they are up there with the elite because they have worked their boxes off and can afford a 5 series BMW and a mock Tudor house in Bramhall.

These fuckers are pulling the strings, they have us working for them, they get all the top jobs, they keep zillions in personal wealth, they keep money in the family, they have taken over politics and WE, US, YOU are paying for it.

These people who think they are sitting on the top table with these leeches are feeding on nothing more than scraps from their mouths. Anyone who defends them has some sort of Stockholm syndrome. "Jealous" "bitter" you bet I fuckin am. People from my background get put down by being called jealous, kept from questioning whether it's fair for so few to have so much, it's like the slave master calling his resentful prisoners jealous.

We are being had. Look who has the top jobs in all walks of life. Not many scousers heading up the top companies, not many Geordies making the big military decisions, not many Cornish voices in government.

What is it about people that thinks it's ok to be ruled by a particular class that would never allow us to be part of their gang. I wouldn't mind if they were any good but most of them are shit. IDS failure at everything he's done. Gideon Osborne, a 2:1 degree in modern history but weirdly allowed to run our nation's finances, would a moss side lad be allowed that leg up? Would he fuck.

The minute we get rid of this cloud over our country is the minute we can move on.

Enjoy the 15 year old Astra.

 

[SWP's back]

Re: Britains Ruling Elite

Its time to scrap all this outdated old school tie shite that goes on in the UK, start by getting rid of the Royals, Earls, Lords, Duke's, all that outdated class drenched bollocks

Its all outmoded and all holding the country back

and dont tell me the Queen brings in tourists, Paris is the the No 1 tourist city in the world, and no Royals to be seen.

Bollocks

Why?

Because it's bollocks and holding nothing back.

The only thing that stops anyone succeeding is lack of talent. And there is plenty of that about.

 

[waterloo blue]

Re: Britains Ruling Elite

Only David Lloyd George and Ramsay McDonald have ever been elected to the office of Prime Minister,after attending a non selective school.
All the other Prime Ministers have either been to public or selective / grammar schools,and the grammar school educated ones reigned from 1964 until 1997, Gordon Brown is the only one who didn't attend an Oxbridge university.
It really is stretching a point to say that anyone can become Prime Minister,they're chosen from a very small clique and it will be ever so,get back to your reality TV,talent show and soap operas and leave the running of the country to the elite,they've made a fantastic job of it so far.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Re: Britains Ruling Elite

When I was learning to be a Flight instructor, we learn there are 4 levels of learning: Rote, Understanding, Acceptance, Correlation.

For me, those 4 levels separate people out of the herd.

The Rote guy does what he is told. He learns how to do something and does it...nothing more, nothing less!

The Understanding guy knows the rote stuff and understands how it works and is able to manage the rote guys. Your lower level mgmt or supervisor guy, who did OK at the local
Comprehensive, and is "one of the guys."

Then there is the Acceptance guy. He learns rote, developed understanding and has learned both to BE accepted and accepted the way things work, and uses that to his advantage to get ahead. He accepts that he has a better understanding and uses that knowledge to leverage and outmaneuver those around him. He's not quite the apex predator, though, because that guy is....

The Correlator! He so earned the rote stuff, but quickly realized that was just information, facts and figures and is the bare basics to get ahead. He understands how it works and accepts that there are ways to do things that will trump the rote learner, because he understands how to put things together. He can take DISPARATE pieces of data, and uses them to build a bigger knowledge database that TIES THINGS TOGETHER. He is the macro-guy, the big picture guy, the guy who gets it and can tie it all together with everything else he knows. THAT GUY can master his domain, because only he knows everything within his domain, because the world is his oyster. He knows that 1+2=3, but more importantly he knows who else knows it, why it is important to them, and how he can use that information to give himself an advantage today and into the future. He has learned that macro is reality, because micro is for nerds in cubicles. He understands micro, but macro is where it's at.

Your better educational outlets TEACH YOU HOW TO BE A CORRELATOR and use it to your advantage.

That's my experience....and I'm a state school guy all the way.

Why are they so shit comparatively at university then?

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From your report:

However, it should be remembered that although the OECD found that UK private schools outperformed state schools in the 2009 PISA reading tests the situation was reversed when socio-economic background was taken into account.

So, do people get grades for their socio-economic backgrounds now?!

I merely made a point that perhaps at elite schools, people are not only taught slightly differently, but the expectations appear to be different, too. Whether the old school tie removes a lot of the burden of marginally higher achievement, I don't know. As I said, I don't have much experience of the elite schools under discussion.

Q. Do you know what they call the person who came bottom of his class in medical school?

A. Doctor!

Sometimes, it is the getting in and getting out that is the important result, not the how and why.