happy daze
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Where did I say they were inferior,or that they don't want their freedom?
And to Ban-jani the man is despised in many parts of the middle east and here.
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British born ISIL members wanting to return to the UK
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And to Ban-jani the man is despised in many parts of the middle east and here.
Where did I say they were inferior,or that they don't want their freedom?
And to Ban-jani the man is despised in many parts of the middle east and here.
You have quite literally claimed, without a single shred of evidence, that the people in the middle east have a different mindset and don't want "our version of democracy". Your implication is pretty clear. Have a word with yourself.
happy daze
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No you need to do a little research,but there we are I doubt we'll ever agree.You have quite literally claimed, without a single shred of evidence, that the people in the middle east have a different mindset and don't want "our version of democracy". Your implication is pretty clear. Have a word with yourself.
No you need to do a little research,but there we are I doubt we'll ever agree.
I really don't need to research crude stereotypes.
happy daze
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Crude stereotype? what that they prefer sharia law and don't accept our gender equality and sure don't like their leaders and want freedom their way not ours,it's you really needs to have a word with yourselfI really don't need to research crude stereotypes.
Where did I say they were inferior,or that they don't want their freedom?
And to Ban-jani the man is despised in many parts of the middle east and here.
Most world leaders do polarise, especially one with such a great amount of foreign policy.
He’s hated my some, those who don’t understand mostly.
happy daze
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Well Ban-jani as I said it is unlikely we'll agree and we all need to respect differing views,personally though I detest him,I detested Thatcher and never thought I could hate somebody more though when he first took office I was elated and expected great things only to be bitterly disappointed.Most world leaders do polarise, especially one with such a great amount of foreign policy.
He’s hated my some, those who don’t understand mostly.
And I understand only to well my attitude to him because he has see sawed his stance from supporting the Arab spring to then aligning with regional despots in order to stem extremism (which as I have said I believe he exacerbated)
This I believe gives some measure of what the Arab world might want and it doesn't reflect the western style democracy blair and others wished to impose.
https://www.arabtrans.eu/news/10606/
Magicpole
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I think it’s because they are all UK passport holders that we can’t stop them. I think a law would need to be passed to prevent them returning. Until that happens, we can’t stop them, then we need to keep them watched which costs untold millions.
Diplomatically it’s difficult. But not impossible. I would think a law would need to be introduced and used to deport them. Why would they want to come back is my question? They hate the West, why not go to Saudi, they live in the medieval time slot that seems to be right uo their street.
Diplomatically it’s difficult. But not impossible. I would think a law would need to be introduced and used to deport them. Why would they want to come back is my question? They hate the West, why not go to Saudi, they live in the medieval time slot that seems to be right uo their street.
Problem is, you can’t just turn up in Saudi and set up home. They refuse to even accept any refugees.I think it’s because they are all UK passport holders that we can’t stop them. I think a law would need to be passed to prevent them returning. Until that happens, we can’t stop them, then we need to keep them watched which costs untold millions.
Diplomatically it’s difficult. But not impossible. I would think a law would need to be introduced and used to deport them. Why would they want to come back is my question? They hate the West, why not go to Saudi, they live in the medieval time slot that seems to be right uo their street.
Well Ban-jani as I said it is unlikely we'll agree and we all need to respect differing views,personally though I detest him,I detested Thatcher and never thought I could hate somebody more though when he first took office I was elated and expected great things only to be bitterly disappointed.
And I understand only to well my attitude to him because he has see sawed his stance from supporting the Arab spring to then aligning with regional despots in order to stem extremism (which as I have said I believe he exacerbated)
This I believe gives some measure of what the Arab world might want and it doesn't reflect the western style democracy blair and others wished to impose.
https://www.arabtrans.eu/news/10606/
Why were you bitterly disappointed?
We’ve never had it better than under Blair.
Have either me or Blair said that the Arab states want to live as the West does?
They clearly do want democracy in many areas but democracy can vary in how it looks.