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Regurgitated right wing media propaganda.

You are the result of the divide and rule tactics employed by the wealthy to divide the working class.

The rich love "heroes" like you
They...like me? They really like me!??

Okay then, what exactly am I missing out on? How much money should I be earning to live a happy life? How much money should I be earning to be considered an equal member of society? How much harder than I'm already working do I need to work to earn the amount that you would consider me to be on an equal footing?

Right wing propaganda? How extraordinarily arrogant of you to suggest that because I don't fit into your 'poor me' poor person demographic that it somehow means i'm an advocate of right wing policies. I've stated to you before that I consider myself a libertarian, and one of the core apsects of liberarianism is self-reliance, but I also share some socialist ideals in that i believe in free healthcare for all to the point of use.

How dare I take responsibility of my own life and not blame or criticise others on their entitlement and privilege, eh?
 
Just to clarify one of SWP points above.

The IHT limit is only if you have a property worth £350k and are part of a couple who can transfer your own allowance (£175k each).

If you have no property and £1m in cash then the limit is still £650k. The new limit is also staggered in and will only be £1m in total by 2020/21. From 17/18 it will be £100k each person to use against a property so effectively £850k IHT allowance from 17/18 rising to £1m in 20/21.

The key part is that it only applies if you have Children/Grandchildren to pass it to. If you do not have direct descendants then you do not get this allowance. A childless couple therefore will not benefit from this allowance.

Not that it affects most people but you never know there may be one or two wealthy people on here :-)

The tax benefits given in one hand will largely be taken away by the increase in insurance premium tax and the new car tax coming into play.
This is all very true, but it is incredibly rare for parents to pass on £1m in assets on death without property being part of the estate.
 
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/budget-2015-single-mum-of-8-fears-6030489

Budget 2015: Single mum-of-8 fears she could become homeless if her £26,000 benefits are capped
  • In today's announcement, Chancellor George Osborne said benefits would be capped at £20,000 per year for those living outside London.
  • Dire straits: Mum-of-eight Marie Buchan says the budget announcement could see her family on the streets
A single mum of eight children who gets a whopping £26,000 a year in benefits fears she could be on the streets thanks to the new budget.

In today's announcement, Chancellor George Osborne said benefits would be capped at £20,000 per year for those living outside London.


And Marie says the measure could thrust her brood into poverty, and may even leave her family homeless.

Birmingham’s most controversial mother said the chancellor’s new measure would leave her enormous family on the breadline and, potentially, out on the street.

“There are nine of us to feed and we are not living in luxury,” the jobless 33-year-old told the Birmingham Mail.



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Capped: Marie Buchan currently rakes in £26,000 a year in benefits


“There’s not a lot left now.”

The £20,000 welfare limit was among the measures announced by George Osborne in the first Tory-only Budget for 18 years.

But Marie said she was already behind with her rent and a £6,000 benefit drop would see her kicked out of her taxpayer-funded, four-bedroom home.

She said she already had one possession order – a document giving her landlord the right to evict her – against her name.

A £20,000 benefit ceiling would probably lead to another and see her children made homeless, she added.

Marie – dubbed Britain’s “welfare queen” – previously fuelled the storm over her massive family by revealing her hopes of having a ninth child with a surrogate.

But she said another baby was now not an option.

“Eight is more than enough to care for,” she said.

Marie lives in a house rented from Bournville Village Trust with her children Tia, 13, Leah, 12, Latoya, ten, Joshua, nine, Alisha, six, Mikayla, five, Amelia, three, and Olivia, aged 21 months.

Her £26,000 annual benefits package is composed of council tax, child benefit, child tax, income support and housing benefit of 50p a week.

It works out at around £500 a week, from which she pays rent of £137.



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Hard up: Marie says the family are not living in luxury


Marie, who insisted she wanted to work, said £200 of the remaining £363 was swallowed up by food shopping and she also had to pay her utility and other bills.

She said she worked a 21-hour day caring for her children, rising at 6am and not going to bed until 3am, watched every penny and scoured eBay, car boot sales and charity shops for bargains.

“What really gets to me is I have had so much hate from over the world,” she said.

“People say I’m lazy and take, take, take.

“But I’m a mum of eight who is under the cap and works hard raising my eight children – a full-time job on its own.”

Marie said she used to work as a cleaner but had to quit because of issues with getting her children ready in the mornings.

She also attended a course for an NHS job but was told she could not take up her place as her youngest child would not be entitled to childcare.

Marie said she had been advised that her benefits cap would be removed if she worked 16 hours a week – allowing her the maximum state help with rent, council tax and childcare.

“I really want to work, but right now no-one is willing to help in any way,” she said.

“All I’m being told is to wait until my youngest is five.

“Working 16 hours will help me so much – yet I will be taking more from the state by working through [help with] rent, childcare and council tax.

“Right now I’m not getting any help, even though I’ve tried every angle possible.”
Single mum of 8.

"Right now I'm not getting any help, even though I've tried every angle possible." - ignoring the fact that I am sure she has had it from every angle possible given the eight kids, she currently gets 26,000 a year for being a baby factory and she thinks she gets no help? She's scum.
 
Hi, "poor" person here (at least by societies standards since I earn just under £10000 pa)

Erm, can you NOT speak for people like me? Thanks. I actually like this budget from what i've read so far; there are plans in place to ease the strain on having to work extra long hours on minimum wage, whilst at the same time making workshy yoofs make the decision to enter the rat race early (as I had to) or go into further education. Even on my meager wages I've been able to set some money aside in a savings account. Nothing spectacular, £10 here, £5 there, but it has grown over the 12 years i've been in work. Why? Because i've 'lived within my means'. Until i'm able to earn enough i've been able to accept being unable to "keep up with the Joneses" and I feel i'm happier for it.

I don't need holidays abroad, I don't need a massive widescreen TV, i've got a roof over my head, clean water to drink and warm food in my belly. Anything else is a bonus. You can budget your lifestyle but that doesn't mean i'm 'poor'. There are some overly extravangent individuals who have champagne parties and drive the new Mercedes flaunting their entitled riches in peoples faces (usually mine, behind the bar). But so what. Fair play to them, that's what they need to make their life worthwhile. I don't. Whether they worked hard for it or it was given to them on a plate due to their background and associated upbringing, that's their business, and comparing my lot to there's just makes for a bitter existance. See the joys in your own life before comparing yourself to others, is my motto.

If someones rent is too high, then downsize. If you can't afford to feed your children, don't plan on having anymore until you can. You look at your income and adjust accordingly. I could, why can't these 'needy people' who leave school (having not bothered to learn or apply themselves since they found it 'boring') only to expect working people in society to pay for them to sit around doing nothing moping around about how hard it is to get a job and that no-one cares about them. People do care, but sometimes patience has it's limits and Labour made that sort of lifestyle very easy for people to survive on welfare, especially as the most taxing of all, living payments, were paid for by taxpayers.

I don't earn enough to pay taxes, but that doesn't mean I don't empathise with those people who see their hard earned money, money they themselves would love to treat their own loved ones with, being squandered on people who have chosen not to give a shit about making their own way in life. If you can't afford it, you go without until you can. But this is the "I want it NOW" generation, and that being without the latest iPad for all your children is seen as being in poverty. If I can live a healthy, happy life on less than £10000 a year, coming from a working class, South Manchester background and a 'broken home' (again, by societies standards) what exactly is stopping the rest of these benefits users? (Note: I am not including those who require medical assistance, but the workshy, lazy and feckless members of our society who have no intention of working)
*applauds*
 
Single mum of 8.

"Right now I'm not getting any help, even though I've tried every angle possible." - ignoring the fact that I am sure she has had it from every angle possible given the eight kids, she currently gets 26,000 a year for being a baby factory and she thinks she gets no help? She's scum.

Tory MP and millionaire Adam Afrirye couldn't raise a family on £26000 a year. he claims he couldn't raise a family on £67000 a year and wants huge pay rises and allowances for MP's.

For balance, does that make him scum not being able to live on tax funded money like that?
 
Single mum of 8.

"Right now I'm not getting any help, even though I've tried every angle possible." - ignoring the fact that I am sure she has had it from every angle possible given the eight kids, she currently gets 26,000 a year for being a baby factory and she thinks she gets no help? She's scum.

and it also shows that the changes are already working - she was going to have a 9th child with a surrogate ffs! She's now decided against that as she can't afford it - I'm sure some people will class the as denying her the basic human right of having children.
 
Tory MP and millionaire Adam Afrirye couldn't raise a family on £26000 a year. he claims he couldn't raise a family on £67000 a year and wants huge pay rises and allowances for MP's.

For balance, does that make him scum not being able to live on tax funded money like that?
No. She's scum for thinking that all she needs to do, to live, is make babies. And she thinks the £26,000 she gets for nothing, is without help.

He has a job, and it's taxpayer funded in the same way as the police, army or doctors are taxpayer funded.

I agree with him, I couldn't raise a family, in my opinion on £67,000, in fact, I don't think I could, in the way I'd like on considerably more, that's why I've not had kids.

I also think MPs get paid a pittance. Surely we want the best people in these positions. The best people, unless already filthy rich, wouldn't go near that job for 67 grand a year. That's why the majority of the front benches are filled with inherited wealth millionaires from all parties.
 
No. She's scum for thinking that all she needs to do, to live, is make babies. And she thinks the £26,000 she gets for nothing nothing, is without help.

He has a job, and it's taxpayer funded in the same way as the police, army or doctors are taxpayer funded.

I agree with him, I couldn't raise a family, in my opinion on £67,000, in fact, I don't think I could, in the way I'd like on considerably more, that's why I've not had kids.

Balance is what's needed in this debate. For every scrounger on benefits out there and make no mistake they are appalling and need bringing to book, there are scroungers on the opposite end of the spectrum costing the taxpayer and economy just as much if not more yet we never seem to hear about those for some reason?

Its his choice to be a MP in the same way you claim it's hers to have kids so fair is fair yes?
 
Balance is what's needed in this debate. For every scrounger on benefits out there and make no mistake they are appalling and need bringing to book, there are scroungers on the opposite end of the spectrum costing the taxpayer and economy just as much if not more yet we never seem to hear about those for some reason?

Its his choice to be a MP in the same way you claim it's hers to have kids so fair is fair yes?
Yes it is. But my point stands which you avoided. We don't pay enough to get the best people in as MPs. That's why the front benches are millionaires of independent wealth.

The clever and creative minds, who are not of independent wealth go on to become barristers, doctors, bankers and entrepreneurs.
 
Yes it is. But my point stands which you avoided. We don't pay enough to get the best people in as MPs. That's why the front benches are millionaires of independent wealth.

The clever and creative minds, who are not of independent wealth go on to become barristers, doctors, bankers and entrepreneurs.

What we have are over 600 pigs at the trough, claiming every benefit allowed to them as MP's, employing as many family members as possible whilst earning as much money from other jobs, many of them taxpayer funded again whilst milking the expenses system to the max.

Pay them a decent salary fair enough but then everything else stops and i do mean stops.

Like i say mate ive no fucking time for benefit cheats but i've equally no time for those milking the system at the other end of the scale, especially so when they so easily pass laws and bills that dictate huge sways of our society have to live on money far less than themselves.

I posted yesterday on here that the figure in the budget for so called tax evasion was a pittance in relation to the actual amount that goes unpaid and that had it been so called welfare fraud, it would have been much higher yet it gets ignored and lost as everyone falls over themselves in a rush to blame everything wrong right now on someone getting £500 a week in benefits.

I could spend seconds on the net and find MP's claiming more than that for travel or hotels me or you could get for far less as an example.

Its been said a million times but its worth saying again, the left blame the right and the right blame the left whilst the pigs at the trough go about lining their own pockets and feathering theirs and their mates nests whilst the rest of us take their bullshit and try to rip each others throats out.

They are laughing their bolloxs off at us, labour, Tory, Lib dem, the lot!
 
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/budget-2015-single-mum-of-8-fears-6030489

Budget 2015: Single mum-of-8 fears she could become homeless if her £26,000 benefits are capped
  • In today's announcement, Chancellor George Osborne said benefits would be capped at £20,000 per year for those living outside London.
  • Dire straits: Mum-of-eight Marie Buchan says the budget announcement could see her family on the streets
A single mum of eight children who gets a whopping £26,000 a year in benefits fears she could be on the streets thanks to the new budget.

In today's announcement, Chancellor George Osborne said benefits would be capped at £20,000 per year for those living outside London.


And Marie says the measure could thrust her brood into poverty, and may even leave her family homeless.

Birmingham’s most controversial mother said the chancellor’s new measure would leave her enormous family on the breadline and, potentially, out on the street.

“There are nine of us to feed and we are not living in luxury,” the jobless 33-year-old told the Birmingham Mail.



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Marie-Buchan-from-Selly-Oak-Birmingham-pictured-with-her-eight-children.jpg

Capped: Marie Buchan currently rakes in £26,000 a year in benefits


“There’s not a lot left now.”

The £20,000 welfare limit was among the measures announced by George Osborne in the first Tory-only Budget for 18 years.

But Marie said she was already behind with her rent and a £6,000 benefit drop would see her kicked out of her taxpayer-funded, four-bedroom home.

She said she already had one possession order – a document giving her landlord the right to evict her – against her name.

A £20,000 benefit ceiling would probably lead to another and see her children made homeless, she added.

Marie – dubbed Britain’s “welfare queen” – previously fuelled the storm over her massive family by revealing her hopes of having a ninth child with a surrogate.

But she said another baby was now not an option.

“Eight is more than enough to care for,” she said.

Marie lives in a house rented from Bournville Village Trust with her children Tia, 13, Leah, 12, Latoya, ten, Joshua, nine, Alisha, six, Mikayla, five, Amelia, three, and Olivia, aged 21 months.

Her £26,000 annual benefits package is composed of council tax, child benefit, child tax, income support and housing benefit of 50p a week.

It works out at around £500 a week, from which she pays rent of £137.



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Marie-Buchan.png

Hard up: Marie says the family are not living in luxury


Marie, who insisted she wanted to work, said £200 of the remaining £363 was swallowed up by food shopping and she also had to pay her utility and other bills.

She said she worked a 21-hour day caring for her children, rising at 6am and not going to bed until 3am, watched every penny and scoured eBay, car boot sales and charity shops for bargains.

“What really gets to me is I have had so much hate from over the world,” she said.

“People say I’m lazy and take, take, take.

“But I’m a mum of eight who is under the cap and works hard raising my eight children – a full-time job on its own.”

Marie said she used to work as a cleaner but had to quit because of issues with getting her children ready in the mornings.

She also attended a course for an NHS job but was told she could not take up her place as her youngest child would not be entitled to childcare.

Marie said she had been advised that her benefits cap would be removed if she worked 16 hours a week – allowing her the maximum state help with rent, council tax and childcare.

“I really want to work, but right now no-one is willing to help in any way,” she said.

“All I’m being told is to wait until my youngest is five.

“Working 16 hours will help me so much – yet I will be taking more from the state by working through [help with] rent, childcare and council tax.

“Right now I’m not getting any help, even though I’ve tried every angle possible.”

Fucking scandalous that these people have been paid historically for breeding a family like this.......... My opinion only
 
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/budget-2015-single-mum-of-8-fears-6030489

Budget 2015: Single mum-of-8 fears she could become homeless if her £26,000 benefits are capped
  • In today's announcement, Chancellor George Osborne said benefits would be capped at £20,000 per year for those living outside London.
  • Dire straits: Mum-of-eight Marie Buchan says the budget announcement could see her family on the streets
A single mum of eight children who gets a whopping £26,000 a year in benefits fears she could be on the streets thanks to the new budget.

In today's announcement, Chancellor George Osborne said benefits would be capped at £20,000 per year for those living outside London.


And Marie says the measure could thrust her brood into poverty, and may even leave her family homeless.

Birmingham’s most controversial mother said the chancellor’s new measure would leave her enormous family on the breadline and, potentially, out on the street.

“There are nine of us to feed and we are not living in luxury,” the jobless 33-year-old told the Birmingham Mail.



BPM Media
Marie-Buchan-from-Selly-Oak-Birmingham-pictured-with-her-eight-children.jpg

Capped: Marie Buchan currently rakes in £26,000 a year in benefits


“There’s not a lot left now.”

The £20,000 welfare limit was among the measures announced by George Osborne in the first Tory-only Budget for 18 years.

But Marie said she was already behind with her rent and a £6,000 benefit drop would see her kicked out of her taxpayer-funded, four-bedroom home.

She said she already had one possession order – a document giving her landlord the right to evict her – against her name.

A £20,000 benefit ceiling would probably lead to another and see her children made homeless, she added.

Marie – dubbed Britain’s “welfare queen” – previously fuelled the storm over her massive family by revealing her hopes of having a ninth child with a surrogate.

But she said another baby was now not an option.

“Eight is more than enough to care for,” she said.

Marie lives in a house rented from Bournville Village Trust with her children Tia, 13, Leah, 12, Latoya, ten, Joshua, nine, Alisha, six, Mikayla, five, Amelia, three, and Olivia, aged 21 months.

Her £26,000 annual benefits package is composed of council tax, child benefit, child tax, income support and housing benefit of 50p a week.

It works out at around £500 a week, from which she pays rent of £137.



BPM
Marie-Buchan.png

Hard up: Marie says the family are not living in luxury


Marie, who insisted she wanted to work, said £200 of the remaining £363 was swallowed up by food shopping and she also had to pay her utility and other bills.

She said she worked a 21-hour day caring for her children, rising at 6am and not going to bed until 3am, watched every penny and scoured eBay, car boot sales and charity shops for bargains.

“What really gets to me is I have had so much hate from over the world,” she said.

“People say I’m lazy and take, take, take.

“But I’m a mum of eight who is under the cap and works hard raising my eight children – a full-time job on its own.”

Marie said she used to work as a cleaner but had to quit because of issues with getting her children ready in the mornings.

She also attended a course for an NHS job but was told she could not take up her place as her youngest child would not be entitled to childcare.

Marie said she had been advised that her benefits cap would be removed if she worked 16 hours a week – allowing her the maximum state help with rent, council tax and childcare.

“I really want to work, but right now no-one is willing to help in any way,” she said.

“All I’m being told is to wait until my youngest is five.

“Working 16 hours will help me so much – yet I will be taking more from the state by working through [help with] rent, childcare and council tax.

“Right now I’m not getting any help, even though I’ve tried every angle possible.”

I bet her fanny's like the UK economy - it was completely wrecked by labour!
 

13 Million families are going to be worse off.

Minimum of £260 a year whilst 3 Million up to a £1000.

Disgraceful.
 

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