Bulger Murderer sent back to clink

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stony said:
alextrueblue said:
Would Australia or any country (apart from us) take in a convicted child killer?

They soon send them packing if they re offend. They deported a paedophile who's parents had emigrated to Oz when he was a nipper. They banged him up and when his sentence was finished, they fucked him off back to England, even though he was more Australian than English.

Perfect example is Maxine Carr
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
stony said:
They soon send them packing if they re offend. They deported a paedophile who's parents had emigrated to Oz when he was a nipper. They banged him up and when his sentence was finished, they fucked him off back to England, even though he was more Australian than English.

Perfect example is Maxine Carr

Maxine Carr was not convicted of any murder.
 
stony said:
alextrueblue said:
Would Australia or any country (apart from us) take in a convicted child killer?

They soon send them packing if they re offend. They deported a paedophile who's parents had emigrated to Oz when he was a nipper. They banged him up and when his sentence was finished, they fucked him off back to England, even though he was more Australian than English.

Yes stony, that was the one i was talking about. I would think, if he declared it to the australian emigration, he'd get rejected, if he didn't he'd be lying, and if there was some kind of deal between the two countries, the ordinary aussie in the street, would be enraged, at the thought of a child killer among them, but if zin says he's in the north west, and openly gay, he must be down the gay villiage of a fri/sat night in town!
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
mcmanus said:
Zin Zimmer I know someone who works in the prison service and they have heard that the other one Thompson is living in Australia. You seem to know your stuff just wondering pal?

Big Fat no mate......... he's in the north west

I was told a few years ago he was in the Chester area though have always taken it with a pinch of salt. I suppose most people have heard rumours about Thompson/Venables at some point.
 
Cheesy said:
It disturbs me that there seem to be so many people (several on this thread) who seem to think it's OK to take a person's life. Can they not see that the death penalty merely brings down the society which approves it to the same level of those who they belive should be executed?

Fortunately, there are too many right-minded people in this country for the death penalty to ever be legal again.

no sorry mate, i can't. and what were the criminals thinking when they were taking other peoples lives? a 'person' who commits horrible, sick crimes doesn't qualify a person in my view. And i'm sure i saw a statistic somewhere the other day which said more than half the population would like the death penalty back..
 
mammutly said:
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
Perfect example is Maxine Carr

Maxine Carr was not convicted of any murder.

On her release a major tabloid obtained documentation of identity, the powers that be issued a code 4 protocol which resulted
in her getting a cushy little number in Canada, i was merely giving an example of such practices.
 
supercity36 said:
Stuart said:
I'd quite easily run a knife across the fucker's throat , and i'm not even a violent person .

same here, and im not violent much either. but anyone who can do that to a two year old, be given a total reprieve than reoffend need shooting. not contributed anything to this world, nor is likely to.
I love it when the internet hardmen come out to play every time this topic gets discussed.

So if one of them outed himself to you, you'd murder him there and then, would you? Would you bollocks.

And if for one brief moment of stupidity you actually would happily do 10-15 years in prison for dishing out a bit of pointless retribution to the murderer of someone you didn't even know, you need to have a word with yourself and think about the impact that would have on your own family.

In short, you wouldn't really kill him, so what's the point of saying it in the first place?
 
it was venables who displayed the remorse from the off, he even cried out during the case and was uncontrollable to the point of hysterics, however thompson only revealed his culpability during his release hearing in 2001.
 
Cheesy said:
mammutly said:
Even more worrying is the amount of imagination and effort some people devote to describing details of their personal ideas for retribution. I'd say some of them take pleasure in it. Very disturbing.

I agree with you. I think perhaps we should be keeping an eye on those who say they'd find it easy to "pull the switch" or "tie the noose".

I think you'll find its the instinct in everyone of us which has the ability to kill, like an instinct kind of thing going back to when we wew uncivilised, like the start of 2010 A Space Oddyssey. The difference is though us normal folk like me, who openly will admit to previously posting ways to kill these 2 fuckers, know the limit and that limit is fantasy.. fantasy in this case about how to 'deal' with another human being who went over that boundary and actually killed. I believe we all have the ability to kill, it just depends on how you deal with understanding right from wrong. Just because I would happily see those little shits and Whiting and Huntley, et al, fry and probably crack open a bag of popcorn whilst watching doesn't make me a nutter or 'disturbed', and the insinuation is rather insulting, to be honest.
 
Pigeonho said:
Cheesy said:
I agree with you. I think perhaps we should be keeping an eye on those who say they'd find it easy to "pull the switch" or "tie the noose".

I think you'll find its the instinct in everyone of us which has the ability to kill, like an instinct kind of thing going back to when we wew uncivilised, like the start of 2010 A Space Oddyssey. The difference is though us normal folk like me, who openly will admit to previously posting ways to kill these 2 fuckers, know the limit and that limit is fantasy.. fantasy in this case about how to 'deal' with another human being who went over that boundary and actually killed. I believe we all have the ability to kill, it just depends on how you deal with understanding right from wrong. Just because I would happily see those little shits and Whiting and Huntley, et al, fry and probably crack open a bag of popcorn whilst watching doesn't make me a nutter or 'disturbed', and the insinuation is rather insulting, to be honest.

If you aren't willing to kill someone, why say you are? Fantasising about it is a little strange isn't it?
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
it was venables who displayed the remorse from the off, he even cried out during the case and was uncontrollable to the point of hysterics, however thompson only revealed his culpability during his release hearing in 2001.

I'm confused here Zin, he showed remorse yet he instigated it too ?

Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
And this notion that venables was merely following thompson is frankly laughable. He was psycho-analyzed throughout the case and was evaluated as having a Goffman Complex, hence the breakdown in court and being the 1st to proverbially crack. The CCTV surveillance also dispelled the myth, both were calculated and clearly had Venables directing thompson in the act. FACT
 
Dubai Blue said:
supercity36 said:
same here, and im not violent much either. but anyone who can do that to a two year old, be given a total reprieve than reoffend need shooting. not contributed anything to this world, nor is likely to.
I love it when the internet hardmen come out to play every time this topic gets discussed.

So if one of them outed himself to you, you'd murder him there and then, would you? Would you bollocks.

And if for one brief moment of stupidity you actually would happily do 10-15 years in prison for dishing out a bit of pointless retribution to the murderer of someone you didn't even know, you need to have a word with yourself and think about the impact that would have on your own family.

In short, you wouldn't really kill him, so what's the point of saying it in the first place?


Of course i'd do it in the middle of the street with loads of witnesses . I'd quite look forward to a 10-15 stretch inside , away from my family .
If i had the chance of doing it on the Q.T then obviously i wouldn't , cos Dubai Blue says so . In short , he knows me inside out you see .
Thanks for using my quote as an example of what you had to say , fella .
 
Cheesy said:
Pigeonho said:
I think you'll find its the instinct in everyone of us which has the ability to kill, like an instinct kind of thing going back to when we wew uncivilised, like the start of 2010 A Space Oddyssey. The difference is though us normal folk like me, who openly will admit to previously posting ways to kill these 2 fuckers, know the limit and that limit is fantasy.. fantasy in this case about how to 'deal' with another human being who went over that boundary and actually killed. I believe we all have the ability to kill, it just depends on how you deal with understanding right from wrong. Just because I would happily see those little shits and Whiting and Huntley, et al, fry and probably crack open a bag of popcorn whilst watching doesn't make me a nutter or 'disturbed', and the insinuation is rather insulting, to be honest.

If you aren't willing to kill someone, why say you are? Fantasising about it is a little strange isn't it?

I see nothing wrong in wishing those of the ilk of Roy Whiting, Ian HUntley and Venables/Thompson a slow and painful death, nothing whatsoever considering what they did. I promise you something though, if anything like this happened to any of my kids or family, I would have no hesitation, given the opportunity, in going to town on the culprit in a room full of marvellous, sharp objects. Only if it was a person as evil as those already mentioned, that is. I saw a video from Romania which was a family being legally allowed to carry out the execution of those found guilty of raping their daughter/granddaughter/neice. I see nothing wrong with that either. What does that make me, seeing as i'm already 'disturbed' and 'strange'....
 
Pigeonho said:
Cheesy said:
If you aren't willing to kill someone, why say you are? Fantasising about it is a little strange isn't it?

I see nothing wrong in wishing those of the ilk of Roy Whiting, Ian HUntley and Venables/Thompson a slow and painful death, nothing whatsoever considering what they did. I promise you something though, if anything like this happened to any of my kids or family, I would have no hesitation, given the opportunity, in going to town on the culprit in a room full of marvellous, sharp objects. Only if it was a person as evil as those already mentioned, that is. I saw a video from Romania which was a family being legally allowed to carry out the execution of those found guilty of raping their daughter/granddaughter/neice. I see nothing wrong with that either. What does that make me, seeing as i'm already 'disturbed' and 'strange'....

It would make you no better than those who had committed the act in the first place.
 

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